*~*THE~NEXT~STERN*~*

This is not what I want to see on an $8k pinball machine. Johnny=Crap...the fact that he would even put this on his website is alarming. It’s awful, high school art class level.

Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:
Johnny Crap’s work is very good and I look forward to seeing what he does with Mando. Johnny don’t give us Crap
I really dug the JP premium cabinet with different art on left and right side of cabinet. Maybe he will continue this on MAN premium.

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#16652 2 years ago

CPI

cait001

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10y 114K 4,847 37

Quoted from rai:
[honest trailers video]

6.5 minutes of that schtick? Oh come on! What were they thinking smdh

#16653 2 years ago

JWD

jdoz2

Inner Orbit Pinball

11y 132K 2,444 26 1

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:
This is not what I want to see on an $8k pinball machine. Johnny=Crap...the fact that he would even put this on his website is alarming. It’s awful, high school art class level.
[quoted image]

WTF is going on here? I’m sure you’re not the absolute best at your line of work, but we don’t blast you for doing your job? You’ve stated several times that you don’t like his stuff. We get it.

#16654 2 years ago

DWD

KnockerPTSD

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Quoted from kermit24:
What looks like amateur hour?? Nothing has been revealed. You make no sense.

The Johnny Crap screen grab that i quoted from an earlier post. I YES make sense

#16655 2 years ago

ARS

djsolzs

Pinside member

9y 78,550 1,834 18

Agreed

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:
This is not what I want to see on an $8k pinball machine. Johnny=Crap...the fact that he would even put this on his website is alarming. It’s awful, high school art class level.
[quoted image]

#16656 2 years ago

DWD

KnockerPTSD

Pinside member

Quoted from shaub:
Really, the guy does one pinball machine and you already write him off? Guys like him are exactly what stern needs. Like you said ZombieYeti cant do every machine.
I happen to really like the overall art package of Jurassic Park myself.

Judging by THAT particular Mando drawing (and the Chewbaccaone)...yeah, id write him off on a Mando pin.

#16657 2 years ago

DWD

KnockerPTSD

Pinside member

Quoted from Kyleman:
I am here to tell Christopher Franchi is the best technically and it isn't close.His stuff is intimidating for fellow artist.His batman and Beatles kills avengers and turtles but whatever grab some crayons and coloring books.

Too bad he doesnt understand how to business and Stern had to can him

#16658 2 years ago

MAT

mpdpvdpin

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I am literally an art consultant, my job is to critique...so this comment is actually hilarious.

Quoted from jdoz2:
WTF is going on here? I’m sure you’re not the absolute best at your line of work, but we don’t blast you for doing your job? You’ve stated several times that you don’t like his stuff. We get it.

#16659 2 years ago

JCS

Johnny’s controlled line work is sharp, but it is his composition that really shines. His layout of the subject matter pulls me in and gives his work a comfortable feeling. I really liked his Tilt pinball design, but his work is kind of hit or miss.
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#16660 2 years ago

Shapeshifter

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So, which title is going to be the next Stern/Kapow title?

Surely that is BTTF?

Guess it looks like Mando next but would not be a shock at all if it was BTTF.

#16661 2 years ago

DWD

KnockerPTSD

Pinside member

Kaneda misread his email.
The next isnt Mando.
The next game is Mario!!

(Jk but Mario would SELL. The crappy Gottliebs are big earners)

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#16662 2 years ago

MAT

mpdpvdpin

Pinside member

Yeah, that’s awful. It’s “horror vacui” it’s flat, the color palette is all over the place. His figures are awkwardly spaced and posed. The main focal point of the image is Wonkas purple jacket so it’s a terrible composition. He is clearly an undertrained and underqualified visual artist for this level of product. This image reads like an over rendered sketch book page, not a finished product.

Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:
Johnny’s style is line work and some of his work outshines his others. I really liked this pinball T-shirt design. [quoted image]

#16663 2 years ago

???

Utesichiban

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Sandy, UT

7y 78,550 2,056 10 24

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:
This is not what I want to see on an $8k pinball machine. Johnny=Crap...the fact that he would even put this on his website is alarming. It’s awful, high school art class level.
[quoted image]

I don't even know who the guy is but from a high level, his name (or nickname?) Is Johnny Crap, right? What else would you expect?... and yes, that Chewbacca drawing you posted seemingly falls in that category .

#16664 2 years ago

???

Utesichiban

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Sandy, UT

7y 78,550 2,056 10 24

Quoted from Thunderbird:
Johnny did an amazing job on doing 3 JP themed pins.
Pro was JP morning
Prem was JP midday/sunset
LE was JP Storm
Very good artist that would do a good job on Mando/Biff/BTTF, lol.

Ok, I retract my previous statement. I didn't realize the same guy did the JP pins. I havexa premium and I like the art. Not as good as GB but decent nonetheless.... that Chewbacca drawing does look like crap, though

#16665 2 years ago

MAT

mpdpvdpin

Pinside member

I like the playfield on JP, but the backglass and cabinet designs on all models dont really do it for me. It’s not the worst I’ve seen, it’s just a bit childlike for the theme.

Quoted from Utesichiban:
Ok, I retract my previous statement. I didn't realize the same guy did the JP pins. I havexa premium and I like the art. Not as good as GB but decent nonetheless.... that Chewbacca drawing does look like crap, though

#16666 2 years ago

JWD

jdoz2

Inner Orbit Pinball

11y 132K 2,444 26 1

Quoted from mpdpvdpin:
I am literally an art consultant, my job is to critique...so this comment is actually hilarious.

So you’re informed enough to know his work isn’t “high school work at best” and “Johnny=crap.” You’d think an art consultant would have a more useful and constructive vocabulary for critiquing than that..

#16667 2 years ago

MAT

mpdpvdpin

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I’m not on the job right now. Right now, I’m just voicing my opinion. Which doesn’t matter any more or less than anyone else’s opinion. Also...you should see the kind of language that gets thrown around in this industry. My comments are mild comparatively haha.

Quoted from jdoz2:
So you’re informed enough to know his work isn’t “high school work at best” and “Johnny=crap.” You’d think an art consultant would have a more useful and constructive vocabulary for critiquing than that..

#16668 2 years ago

PJF

rai

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20y 169K 18,760 34

Is there any idea on who might be doing the code on this one??

#16669 2 years ago

???

nicoy3k

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Acton, MA

3y 66,050 3,025 1 14

Really hoping its not "Mando". Selfishly because I already have a Star Wars pin. I wonder if this is a sign that Sterns OG Star Wars license is about to expire...

#16670 2 years ago

GAC

Rarehero

Pinside member

Quoted from Sako-TRG:
1977-1983 - I was done after that..... twas a slippery slope from there.
Just about everything on the TV is Star Wars these days.
How may times are they gonna milk this cow?
For the franchise...... now the pins
Money spinner to the max, taking two characters that the fans have some magnetic appeal to - a cute green baby Yoda thingy + a Boba Fett
Its done already.
I guess you want a Jar Jar Binks Special Edition too?

Cool story bro. I’m not a Star Wars fan and your opinion is irrelevant to this fact: Star Wars is huge. Mando is huge. This game will be huge. End of story.

#16671 2 years ago

GAC

Rarehero

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Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:
Johnny Crap’s work is very good and I look forward to seeing what he does with Mando. Johnny don’t give us Crap

He’s not doing it...sooo

#16672 2 years ago

JCS

jeffspinballpalace

JeffSPinballPalace

20y 242K 19,062 556

Quoted from Rarehero:
He’s not doing it...sooo

Im sure they’ll find someone good to do it.

#16673 2 years ago

???

iloveplywood

Pinside member

Madison, WI

9y 56,800 694 1

Quoted from delt31:
Really happy it’s mandalorian. Much easier to pass on it. Yawn.
Although I would love to see the kaneda haters eat crow if it’s truly mango.

Does Delt passing on a machine mean he will only buy and sell it twice?

#16674 2 years ago

Shapeshifter

Pinside member

I think Stern are leaking false info for fun!

Mando 'LOREAN' is surely code name for BTTF!

I am ready here to go back to the future

#16675 2 years ago

Shapeshifter

Pinside member

Another reason I think it's NOT Mandalorean.

Premiered Nov 2019.

That is around 17 months ago.

Stern games typically take around 18 months from design to production.

Did Stern really start this game before anyone even saw an episode???

Kaneda and others are being fed plenty of red herrings!

#16676 2 years ago

CRD

chad

Game Guy

11y 140K 15,164 9 5

I think it would be funny if Stern did Angry Birds with Steve Ritchies voice ala Black Knight 2000 and The Skull in No Fear.

#16677 2 years ago

SKL

Scoot

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Highgate, VT

5y 93,050 1,310 11 15

Quoted from Shapeshifter:
Another reason I think it's NOT Mandalorean.
Premiered Nov 2019.
That is around 17 months ago.
Stern games typically take around 18 months from design to production.
Did Stern really start this game before anyone even saw an episode???
Kaneda and others are being fed plenty of red herrings!

You obviously must realize that the production of the show was at least 2 years in the making even before the first episode premiered. If in fact the Mandalorean is the next pin, they most likely had source material well before 17 months ago.

#16678 2 years ago

MTE

SLCpunk2113

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7y 81,400 1,325 54

It’s not going to be Mandalorean. K man is simply wrong like he is 9/10 times.

#16679 2 years ago

Shapeshifter

Pinside member

Quoted from Scoot:
You obviously must realize that the production of the show was at least 2 years in the making even before the first episode premiered. If in fact the Mandalorean is the next pin, they most likely had source material well before 17 months ago.

Yeah, for sure.

But at the time no one had a clue if the show would be any good.

Would Stern have started the game before the reviews started to flow in?

#16680 2 years ago

GAC

Rarehero

Pinside member

Quoted from SLCpunk2113:
It’s not going to be Mandalorean. K man is simply wrong like he is 9/10 times.

Is it legal to place bets on Pinside? LET'S GOOOOOO! It'll pay for my Mando lol

#16681 2 years ago

KEV

NC_Pin

Pinside+ Addict

7y 90,550 1,482 16 32 1

Removed... I was probably too harsh.

#16682 2 years ago

GAC

Rarehero

Pinside member

Quoted from Shapeshifter:
Stern games typically take around 18 months from design to production.

They don't usually take that long. Ritchie takes long...the rest can crank 'em out. Stern has tight ties with Disney/Lucasfilm....and I'm sure the second they saw the show and "Baby Yoda", they locked in the license. It was an obvious hit from Day 1.

#16683 2 years ago

RAW

Indusguys

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7y 66,900 968 20 18

I hope Stern surprises us like they did with AIQ. If Stern could keep a Elwin-ZY pin under wraps I am hoping for something that isn't on anyones radar.

#16684 2 years ago

GAC

Rarehero

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Quoted from Indusguys:
I hope Stern surprises us like they did with AIQ. If Stern could keep a Elwin-ZY pin under wraps I am hoping for something that isn't on anyones radar.

LOL just accept it. TAKE IT. Embrace the Mando. Love the Mando.

#16685 2 years ago

Shapeshifter

Pinside member

Quoted from Rarehero:
They don't usually take that long. Ritchie takes long...the rest can crank 'em out. Stern has tight ties with Disney/Lucasfilm....and I'm sure the second they saw the show and "Baby Yoda", they locked in the license. It was an obvious hit from Day 1.

Agree.

But BTTF was supposedly coming out soon, and that would be a smash.

And it's just the kind of thing Stern would do - code name Man da lorean.

And then leak it and see where the leaks end up!

Love Mandalorian so won't be disappointed if it is.

My money is on BTTF but it's kind of a red/black bet.

#16686 2 years ago

GAC

Rarehero

Pinside member

Quoted from Shapeshifter:
My money is on BTTF but it's kind of a red/black bet.

Let's go...lets place bets! I love free money.

#16687 2 years ago

TIM

finnflash

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O'fallon, MO

8y 108K 2,654 11 20 1

Everyone saying how much they love "Mando" but still calling him "baby Yoda"?
Blasphemy!!

#16688 2 years ago

RAW

Indusguys

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7y 66,900 968 20 18

Quoted from finnflash:
Everyone saying how much they love "Mando" but still calling him "baby Yoda"?
Blasphemy!!

I still prefer "The Child" to "Grogu".

#16689 2 years ago

GRV

GravitaR

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Saginaw, MI

12y 129K 2,920 31 71

Quoted from Shapeshifter:
Stern games typically take around 18 months from design to production.

Did Stern really start this game before anyone even saw an episode???

They can cut it down even further if re-utilize the Home SW pin PF.

#16690 2 years ago

GAC

Rarehero

Pinside member

Quoted from finnflash:Everyone saying how much they love "Mando" but still calling him "baby Yoda"?
Blasphemy!!

Sorry...GLORGOO!!!!

#16691 2 years ago

ZYT

zombieyeti

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Quoted from Kyleman:
It cracks me up.Everyone acts like Zombie Yeti is the only upscale artist.I am a drafter slash comic artist not the best but good and I am here to tell Christopher Franchi is the best technically and it isn't close.His stuff is intimidating for fellow artist.His batman and Beatles kills avengers and turtles but whatever grab some crayons and coloring books.

A fellow Hoosier that isn’t pushing Yeti propaganda!?!? How dare you!! (I kid!)

First off...I’m not upscale at anything in life! So I agree with you!!!

...But putting Chris and I against each other is always an odd play. Chris will gladly tell you that we do different things. I create assets and styleguides from nothing and he uses reference to create assets - so he had better be more technically accurate (and he is with style to spare!)

I ain’t great at what I do either btw. But I try to grow and stretch in hopes some day I like something I do.

I don’t want to do every license out there and I pick what I have passion for so I can do the best I can for the project and fans of it. These projects aren’t easy and take far more time than you can imagine. I’m not gonna do a project I don’t love just for a check. So if people can see that it might be more of a Yeti sell than the actual art

But more to the point - Johnny Crap is one of the hardest working illustrators AND can design a playfield which is not an easy task for an artist used to the freedom of a canvas. I get that art is subjective and people don’t always like what the other person does - BUT - anyone who has undertaken a pinball art package (or 3 with stern) deserves some credit for hitting a schedule and taking some risks. Don’t tear people apart (this is pinside tho - so...) as a critique of what you may or may not like.

And with that - I’ll get back to work...

#16692 2 years ago

SKL

Scoot

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Highgate, VT

5y 93,050 1,310 11 15

Quoted from Shapeshifter:
Yeah, for sure.
But at the time no one had a clue if the show would be any good.
Would Stern have started the game before the reviews started to flow in?

The Shadow
Congo
Johnny Mnemonic
Tron
Demolition Man

Am I missing any?

#16693 2 years ago

SPJ

John0560

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#16694 2 years ago

POO

seenev

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8y 62,050 2,181 17

I think the art is mostly decent on my JP Premium, but the translite is pretty bad. The cabinet art on the side is pretty good. It's so inconsistent and I think that's what bothers me.

#16695 2 years ago

SAA

shaub

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9y 66,050 1,815 21

"Grogu" was introduced far to late to really feel right. For the entire series, you're calling him "The Child" or "Baby Yoda." By the time "Grogu" comes into it, it's kinda like, meh.

#16696 2 years ago

???

colonel_caverne

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Biscarrosse

10y 80,800 3,262 3 72

Quoted from zombieyeti:
I ain’t great at what I do either btw. But I try to grow and stretch in hopes some day I like something I do.
I don’t want to do every license out there and I pick what I have passion for so I can do the best I can for the project and fans of it. These projects aren’t easy and take far more time than you can imagine. I’m not gonna do a project I don’t love just for a check. So if people can see that it might be more of a Yeti sell than the actual art

I would pay you for a JP playfield.

#16697 2 years ago

SPJ

John0560

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#16698 2 years ago

GAC

Rarehero

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Quoted from zombieyeti:
I ain’t great at what I do either btw.

Oh staaahp. You know you're the best, you know your work moves games, you know we want you to do every game. Appreciate the humbleness...but c'mon, BASK IN IT!!!!

#16699 2 years ago

SPJ

John0560

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Quoted from zombieyeti:
A fellow Hoosier that isn’t pushing Yeti propaganda!?!? How dare you!! (I kid!)
First off...I’m not upscale at anything in life! So I agree with you!!!
...But putting Chris and I against each other is always an odd play. Chris will gladly tell you that we do different things. I create assets and styleguides from nothing and he uses reference to create assets - so he had better be more technically accurate (and he is with style to spare!)
I ain’t great at what I do either btw. But I try to grow and stretch in hopes some day I like something I do.
I don’t want to do every license out there and I pick what I have passion for so I can do the best I can for the project and fans of it. These projects aren’t easy and take far more time than you can imagine. I’m not gonna do a project I don’t love just for a check. So if people can see that it might be more of a Yeti sell than the actual art
But more to the point - Johnny Crap is one of the hardest working illustrators AND can design a playfield which is not an easy task for an artist used to the freedom of a canvas. I get that art is subjective and people don’t always like what the other person does - BUT - anyone who has undertaken a pinball art package (or 3 with stern) deserves some credit for hitting a schedule and taking some risks. Don’t tear people apart (this is pinside tho - so...) as a critique of what you may or may not like.
And with that - I’ll get back to work...

The man, the myth, the legend! Thanks for all of your hard work, my family loves our Tutles because of how beautiful your artwork is. Keep doing cool stuff, hopefully we will see the rest of that Bill and Teds artwork someday, and hopefully in pinball form.

#16700 2 years ago

SPJ

John0560

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