Stern have a reputation to uphold. They are experts in their field and thus have a duty of care on what leaves the factory floor. They should be providing sound guidance and advice to their customers and business partners.

Whether it was Incendium or 3rd party who presented this artwork, someone at Stern with the level of experience should have stepped in with advice regarding the art.

Just my opinion.

Agreed. Why would anyone expect anything different?
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Its just too similar to the star wars home

Well the display will be very different. DMD vs Full color LCD so there's that

BKSOR is very tough. Brutal in fact . It's a lot of fun though. There are lots and lots of risk/reward kinds of shots. Moreover, the shots to progress and battle against the bad guys are pretty challenging (i.e. you can't just go randomly shooting at the shield, flail, or knight himself w/o risking drains ).

I wouldn't call it "deep" by any stretch of the imagination. If "deep" is your thing, it isn't worth owning .

The only thing that torqued me off about it was needing to replace two coil stops on my LE before I hit 500 games.

I thought that both of these games have a red DMD?

Is that supposed to be a "legally distinct" way of tracing another company's fantasy artwork? There are 400 pictures of that purple broad already from the last 15 years of Hasbro's publishing, looking suspiciously similar. This isn't even a good example, you see 6-foot-tall posters of this strange woman walking past comic stores and such.

Stern is finished. How much would it have cost to license the art etc. from the 1980s animated feature that everyone meant when they said "Heavy Metal"?
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You don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. Not how old that licenses are (and who'd stole from whom if anyone), not what "tracing" means, not how the licensing in this contracted work works. The only thing you get correct is the color "purple".

Heavy Metal - Drawing "sexy purple fantasy warrior womenTM" since 1977!

I get what you are trying to say, but it's a retheme right? Wasn't it always gonna look something like this?

If it were based on the fantasy magazine established to avoid the Comic Code then it wouldn't be the lamest playfield anyone here's ever seen. If you think I can't recall 50+ covers of the magazine from memory in order to amuse myself by comparing them to this artwork then it explains why you're so bold in declaring this valid.

Even if it's for sale at Sam's Club or Target or whatever the plan is, does this save money? Is the artwork that big a part of the "BoM" when you're reskinning? How was it possible to remake Spiderman without triggering gag reflexes?

The playfield looks pO0p.
I did not argue against that.

Still has nothing to do with stealing anothers ladywarrior design, that only has the color purple in common, with a time machine.

But ok, you didn't mean that "literally", getting that now.

Ok, I’ll bite... I know better - but I’ll chime in against my better judgement.

So fwiw I’ll reiterate that Stern only builds the contract games and - in my experience - the licensor is the Art Director in every case. (Supreme being the greatest example lol)

My involvement with Primus was contracted by the band AND essentially myself and Zoltron became the Art Directors for that project. Obviously I work with Greg and greatly appreciate & respect his opinion - so I bounced it off of him as we went - but Stern had zero input on the look and feel.

There was an extremely small window of time that I might have been working on Heavy Metal with the licensor - but schedule didn’t work out for me (thanks to another game at least!). But I only share this because I know the creatives on this did an amazing job with the time frame and creating original assets. It’s gorgeous up close! (No skittles puke! Yeti-Haters™️)

So, If there’s one flaw here (price doesn’t count - that’s also not up to Stern from my experience), it’s showing art as a flat template mock up vs a physical built game. It’s an amazing looking game imo and will look great once it’s in 3 dimensions.

Just sharing perspective from my experience... I say relax & wait to see this in person. (Of course I Am proud and love Primus - so take my opinion with squinting eyes and a cocked head...)

So - nothing nefarious to see here - continue on hating or loving people’s genuine efforts

Nope. Heavy Metal Magazine pinball has a DMD and Star Wars HOME has a full color LCD with animations. That's a huge step back.
Here is zacs unboxing video at the end you see gameplay.

Thanks!

I think the assets (every single artpiece in itself) are mostly great, it's the composition/ collage they built with it on the playfield that looks a but plain/ stiff/ rigid (to me).

Still looking forward seeing the whole thing, with plastics on and everything!

This. Doing poster / comic style art is different than being good at pinball playfield art / composition.

I for one , really appreciate you giving some comments on how the process works , from someone on the inside .

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Have you actually played the home Star Wars game? I'm guessing not, because the LCD was not a great feature. It is tiiiiiiiny, looks odd, and meh. My initial thought was, just do a dmd, makes it look like a normal pin then.

Mind you I only played a handful of games, but it was pretty fun to play! Id play it over a few recent full releases in a heartbeat! Two things that struck me were the small LCD, and lack of a coin door mech. Both made it feel cheaper than it actually was, going with a dmd and having a coin door were good calls. I could definitely see paying 50 cents to play one of these games, give it a go at a distributor, will surprise ya!

Price, well, price is a different story, as ZombieYeti mentions above. No way would I plop down the dough needed to buy one... but if an op did and let me put a few quarters in, for sure!

That's a thing? Every game you've worked on so far is worthy of being hung on a wall.

The purple lady and all the rest of it look worse than artwork designed for 2"×3" playing card artwork frames. Heavy Metal is full A4 hand-drawn mental artwork, the kind that would look good on a pinball machine. It's all highly incongruous. Everyone should look up "Heavy Metal magazine covers" in Google, sort to "Images" only, and sort out all but "Large". Some can be a bit questionable for an open family forum. The weird pterodactyl has black eyes, like a doll's eyes. Lifeless.

This was posted earlier today....

https://www.pinball.co.uk/blog/back-to-the-future-pinball-machine-pinball-rumour-mill/

Well by law you can't post anything on the internet that isn't true

Please, no projectors.

Uh oh, where is that guy that keeps daring us to ask Gary about BTTF?

All that BTTF talk in the link is highly speculative. Does it bother taking in actual facts? The writer of the film said last week that he'd never license it for anything (remake was the example). Don't they think getting Crispin Glover would be harder than Alex Keaton? He'll sue the Fake Shemp off you over his likeness.

Who would get all involved in a pinball the way James Cameron did for T2? Sending dailies and everything. Mel Gibson pinball? Apocalypto? David Lynch pinball?

a wacky and retro Twin Peaks machine would be legendary.

BTTF is continually getting licensed, there is a constant release of new merchandise.

Your referring to Robert Zemeckis and
Bob Gale (Rob and Bob) who have gone on record over the years regarding remaking BTTF.

Rob and Bob have stated multiple times it will only happen after they are dead. Don’t think they have control over the BTTF licence simply the control over the films being remade.

Believe last year sometime Rob went as far to state that even after they are dead, their individual estates will find a way to stop a remake happening and they have no interest in a BTTF4.

^

Truth. The "bob's" will not allow another movie to be made, but the BTTF license is all over the place. For example in the movie Ready Player One. Also, the Delorean BTTF version is available to use in the game "Rocket League". Probably in many other avenues. Getting a BTTF theme won't be too hard, but getting the likeness of actors and callouts might be a different story.

Telltale did a great job with that, I‘d buy that Assets/ 3D models and hire that MJF Soundalike.

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Back to the Sopranos

Split post, ignore.

That woman is hideous!

What's the hot speculation on Brian Eddy's next project? Seems like a fun kind of thing to make educated guesses about, he's heavily teased a sequel to either Attack from Mars or Medieval Madness. This suggests Lyman on the code, and he types for machines with premium pricepoints these days. Will his schedule coincide with the release of Stern's next high-priced machine? Would a sequel to these machines have a Premium base model? Are there sales figures for the MM remake vs. the AFM? Enough threads to weave a rich tapestry of nonsense.

Stern doesnt have the rights to make official sequals to those games. Stranger Things is pretty much Attack from Mars layout though.

Sure they do, they buy the rights to use the license from Bally/Williams or whatever that slot machine company is called. Didn't Brian work for them forever this side of the 21st century? Probably an easy collaboration like with Chicago Gaming Company or whatnot. It's during the Stranger Things reveal video that he himself offered up the sequel to MM or AFM hint, while acknowledging that the hint was in fact more than a hint. He may have said the next machine would be "Medieval Madness 2 or Attack from Mars 3", referring to the similar layouts.

I heard Todd Tuckey mention the Turtles in his youtube video.

What does he said about it? Or at what time does he mention it?

17:25

So he mentions turtles and I continued watching. Lost some respect with that color puke on the cyclone

You HAVE to love a Todd but yes, they love their clown puke lighting over there.

Oh he's patient Zero for clown pukery

I wonder how this virus issue will affect Stern's release schedule?
Will they blame Heavy Metal's low sales on Corona? Lol

I'd assume so.

Firepower 3 / Judas Priest

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Is there factory still open and the line running? Or are they closed due to the virus?

**their**
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I want to correct so many people's spelling and grammar on here but I'm not a dick (not that kind at least, lol)