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**The Next Stern Pin**


By frankmac

4 years ago



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“Is TMNT for you?”

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#5551 11 months ago
Quoted from Extraballz:

Seems likes a perfectly fine thread to express my disappointment in Stern. When Stern was the only one making pins Gary had the bright idea he would just cost cut and at the same time raise prices to improve profits. Not a very nice thing to do to your loyal customers IMO. So now there is other companies to compete for sales and Stern is just continuing on with the same strategy? That’s arrogant man. And why would I want the company currently making the lowest quality pins to make my dream themes. Anyone but them right now.

The change you're complaining about happened in 2008/9 when Stern was on its deathbed and they brought on investors. Gary is now basically a figurehead, but I'm pretty sure the investors are the ones driving the cost reduction at all costs and retail price increases, because it started in earnest when they came in. It's mentioned in this article, I'm sure more are out there:

https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150315/business/150319262/

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#5552 11 months ago
Quoted from Graysonsdad:

So you're only in this Stern thread to bitch and troll?

Seems likes a perfectly fine thread to express my disappointment in Stern. When Stern was the only one making pins Gary had the bright idea he would just cost cut and at the same time raise prices to improve profits. Not a very nice thing to do to your loyal customers IMO. So now there are other companies making great pins to compete for sales and Stern is just continuing on with the same strategy? That’s arrogant man. And why would I want the company currently making the lowest quality pins to make my dream themes? Anyone but them right now.

#5553 11 months ago
Quoted from Extraballz:

Seems likes a perfectly fine thread to express my disappointment in Stern. When Stern was the only one making pins Gary had the bright idea he would just cost cut and at the same time raise prices to improve profits. Not a very nice thing to do to your loyal customers IMO. So now there are other companies making great pins to compete for sales and Stern is just continuing on with the same strategy? That’s arrogant man. And why would I want the company currently making the lowest quality pins to make my dream themes? Anyone but them right now.

Did you really just repost this to be at the top of the page?
We get it. You want attention.

#5554 11 months ago
Quoted from Peanuts:

TMNT is out, sort of:
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4 Days ago wants this post back.

#5555 11 months ago
Quoted from vireland:

It would have to have a really shallow playfield pitch so it played REAAALLLY SLOW.

Some sort of smog machine or something to cloud up reality!

#5556 11 months ago
Quoted from Roostking:

Some sort of smog machine or something to cloud up reality!

Premium comes with a pin gulp for a bong

#5557 11 months ago
Quoted from Budman:

I believe Brian was hired two years ago and would have to assume he has been developing something all that time. Seems odd that he would be put on a title like TMNT.It doesn’t take two years to bring a game like that to market. I thought he would do a unique homegrown title.

Maybe 2 years to get more assets from Stranger Things season 3......

#5558 11 months ago
Quoted from vireland:

The most common titles being thrown around are:
Stranger Things
TMNT
James Bond
Led Zeppelin
The next one may be the Brian Eddy pin...

Might be 3 of those in 2020....

#5559 11 months ago
Quoted from Psw757:

Next machine will be the long rumored Led Zeppelin machine.

That one might be cooking longer.

#5560 11 months ago
Quoted from mnpinball:

That one might be cooking longer.

If that's what it takes to make Led Zeppelin not a crappy rethemed Quicksilver but a full new pin, I say take your time, Stern.

#5561 11 months ago
Quoted from vireland:

Well, Trudeau will be released next week, so it could happen.

Bad sense of humor man.

#5562 11 months ago
Quoted from mnpinball:

Might be 3 of those in 2020....

Nintendo Switch just did a Stranger Things season 3 digital download game.

Who knows?

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#5563 11 months ago
Quoted from RA77:

I have no problem with magnets doing crazy shit. Its part of the fun
Its pinball, " the ball is wild " remember.
To the few tourney players whining about no control , cry elsewhere about the randomness of pinball please.

I agree . I hope they don't design pins according to tournament players. Randomness gives everyone a chance

#5564 11 months ago
Quoted from vireland:

If that's what it takes to make Led Zeppelin not a crappy rethemed Quicksilver but a full new pin, I say take your time, Stern.

Personally, I would be 100% good with a Quicksilver remake (with modern tweaks - maybe even ramps) with a Zep theme. I would enjoy this more than a Zep theme slapped on a Munsters or Elvira-type layout.

#5565 11 months ago

I remember in my younger days putting on black dog and rock and roll by Led Zeppelin on the jukebox at the pub and playing fishtails , great memories , so much so I brought a fish tales and will never let it go . Led Zeppelin deserves its own unique play field like ACDC and Iron Maiden

#5566 11 months ago
Quoted from mnpinball:

That one might be cooking longer.

If it isn’t Led Zeppelin next in line it’s got to be Goonies or Bond!

#5567 11 months ago


I know this won't ever get made , but I'd love to see this , the most Australian band ever .
THE CHATS !

#5568 11 months ago
Quoted from mnpinball:

Maybe 2 years to get more assets from Stranger Things season 3......

Nah the 3 titles for 2020 are:

Bill & Ted
Bill & Ted 2
Bill & Ted 3

#5569 11 months ago
Quoted from screaminr:

Led Zeppelin deserves its own unique play field like ACDC and Iron Maiden

I totally agree, Stern shot themselves in the foot with Beatles-when it comes to potential sales if it had been a modern machine with Pro, Premium, and LE models. Led Zeppelin is an epic theme-and again Stern will waste it on a re-hashed single level game. Flipping snooze fest-I would prefer a newly designed modern table or even a re-theme using Iron Maiden layout. At least my wallet is safe for now. If you want to bring back some classic titles-then just bring them back as all original-no need to waste good themes.

#5570 11 months ago
Quoted from screaminr:

I know this won't ever get made , but I'd love to see this , the most Australian band ever .
THE CHATS !

Smoko wizard mode?

#5571 11 months ago
Quoted from screaminr:

I know this won't ever get made , but I'd love to see this , the most Australian band ever .
THE CHATS !

Stern's qc guy has been on a long smoko. lol

#5572 11 months ago
Quoted from Extraballz:

Seems likes a perfectly fine thread to express my disappointment in Stern. When Stern was the only one making pins Gary had the bright idea he would just cost cut and at the same time raise prices to improve profits. Not a very nice thing to do to your loyal customers IMO. So now there are other companies making great pins to compete for sales and Stern is just continuing on with the same strategy? That’s arrogant man. And why would I want the company currently making the lowest quality pins to make my dream themes? Anyone but them right now.

Subtract your pinball emotions with running a company with investors who provided revenue for Stern to expand or survive. In return, ”the evil Gary” might not of had any choice per the covenants of the agreements. Fathom that companies regardless of private or public are about making as much money as possible. Stern is not a charity to your dreams. Your loyalties are replaceable by a new consumer.

As you know, you may exercise your consumer rights and don’t buy from them and utilize the other companies. The bonus, your dreams might be satiated soon with Deeproot.

#5573 11 months ago
Quoted from mnpinball:

Might be 3 of those in 2020....

You can keep Led Zep I’ll take one of each of the other 3! But Stranger Things needs hidden magents for randomness or at least a ball save between the flippers!

#5574 11 months ago

I would love to see a new BOND. Huge Fan.

#5575 11 months ago
Quoted from EightBallTexas:

I would love to see a new BOND. Huge Fan.

Id love to see any of the older ones haha.

#5576 11 months ago
Quoted from Rager170:

Id love to see any of the older ones haha.

Top 3?

#5577 11 months ago

Dr. No
From Russia with love
The spy who loved me/license to kill

#5578 11 months ago
Quoted from Graysonsdad:

Dr. No
From Russia with love
The spy who loved me/license to kill

Great Bond movies, but don't forget about: Diamonds Are Forever, For Your Eyes Only, and Goldeneye!

#5579 11 months ago

License to Kill, absolutely!

#5580 11 months ago

Love them all....guess I am a fan. lol

#5581 11 months ago

My hope for a Bond pin is they cover all eras of Bond, if they have to count one out it can be On Her Majesty’s Secret Service with Lazenby.

#5582 11 months ago
Quoted from Psw757:

My hope for a Bond pin is they cover all eras of Bond, if they have to count one out it can be On Her Majesty’s Secret Service with Lazenby.

Me too. Personally, I'd enjoy a greatest hits mix of their villains or Bond girls more than I care about which Bond they use.

#5583 11 months ago

I say villains and the girls for each movie scattered around the PF. We need Odd Job and nick nack . Take my money now.

#5584 11 months ago
Quoted from Psw757:

My hope for a Bond pin is they cover all eras of Bond, if they have to count one out it can be On Her Majesty’s Secret Service with Lazenby.

I think most of us could have done without moonraker as well

#5586 11 months ago
Quoted from Graysonsdad:

I think most of us could have done without moonraker as well

I like Moonraker

#5587 11 months ago

That list is ridiculously off as a Bond fan. On Her Majestsy’s secret service at #7? View to a Kill #23 or thereabouts, no way.

#5588 11 months ago
Quoted from Psw757:

That list is ridiculously off as a Bond fan. On Her Majestsy’s secret service at #7? View to a Kill #23 or thereabouts, no way.

On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a good bond film, and Lazenby is fine. Dalton is crappier than Lazenby, IMO.

#5589 11 months ago

Needs to based on porn. BALLS IN HOLES.

#5590 11 months ago
Quoted from Monte:

Subtract your pinball emotions with running a company with investors who provided revenue for Stern to expand or survive. In return, ”the evil Gary” might not of had any choice per the covenants of the agreements. Fathom that companies regardless of private or public are about making as much money as possible. Stern is not a charity to your dreams. Your loyalties are replaceable by a new consumer.
As you know, you may exercise your consumer rights and don’t buy from them and utilize the other companies. The bonus, your dreams might be satiated soon with Deeproot.

The unfortunate part is this is the lament of nearly all hobbies that turn into cash cows because 'investors'. It is no secret that companies are way more creative and take more risks when they aren't relying on making record profits and making investors happy. There is a sense of 'love' put into the product during that phase that seems to go away once it is all about 'what's good for the business'. While investors are supposed to make the company 'better' and able to do more, the reality is usually the opposite to the early adopters who watched the company grow. It's just how the world works unfortunately.

What I find interesting is people who defend any business practice, as if they are doing anyone a favor. As a consumer, I have no brand loyalty. I've never understood people who are so one sided regarding brands. Companies chase mass market. They don't really 'care' about the consumer, they care about market share. While those may seem like the same thing they are not. What I mean by this is a company will gladly drop its existing customers if it thinks its found a way to get more customers a different way. Companies stopped listening to the consumers years ago, and it is when quality and consumer happiness dropped drastically and continues to drop. (This is mostly general, not directed at Stern).

#5591 11 months ago
Quoted from Zablon:

Needs to based on porn. BALLS IN HOLES.

Um, Bride of Pinbot. You teabag her then put a ball in her mouth. Overtly sexualized art. Only Zingy Bingy was more explicit.

#5592 11 months ago
Quoted from Extraballz:

Seems likes a perfectly fine thread to express my disappointment in Stern.

Yeah, but you're not really expressing your disappointment, you're basically calling everyone else crazy for discussing (not even buying, simply talking about) the next Stern game...

Quoted from Extraballz:

I can’t understand why anyone would even be looking forward to the next Stern

You're welcome to your opinions, you're even welcome to say you aren't buying Stern. But this is a thread for discussing the next Stern game. You've made it abundantly clear you aren't interested, soooooo, maybe this isn't the thread for you?

Edit: I just noticed you re-posted your troll comment a second time, hahahaha. It was a bad take the first time, and you re-post? I agree with graysonsdad, need attention much?

#5593 11 months ago
Quoted from jawjaw:

Stern's qc guy has been on a long smoko. lol

Man I wish...

#5594 11 months ago

Thinking a Tron vault might be cooking..

#5595 11 months ago

Many great ideas, I love james bond but what about the gremlins

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#5596 11 months ago
Quoted from frankmac:

Thinking a Tron vault might be cooking..

That would be great - I am still hoping for a Stranger Things pin too. Sounds like Stern has that license so it is more likely 'when' and not 'if'

#5597 11 months ago
Quoted from frankmac:

Thinking a Tron vault might be cooking..

Don't get my hopes up.

#5598 11 months ago

So looking like we will see something later this month?

Bring on turtles!

#5599 11 months ago
Quoted from Extraballz:

Seems likes a perfectly fine thread to express my disappointment in Stern. When Stern was the only one making pins Gary had the bright idea he would just cost cut and at the same time raise prices to improve profits. Not a very nice thing to do to your loyal customers IMO. So now there is other companies to compete for sales and Stern is just continuing on with the same strategy? That’s arrogant man. And why would I want the company currently making the lowest quality pins to make my dream themes. Anyone but them right now.

I have IM next to IMDN. The quality difference is absolutely insane. I can touch maiden with my pinky, and the whole machine shakes. I have to use both hands aggressively to do the same to IM. I wish Stern would reverse course on the cost cutting (bring back the older PSU with button in the right place, a knocker etc etc.) as I am sad that I can't support them anymore.

I guess this is a good time to ask: has anyone added weights into the cab of newer sterns?

#5600 11 months ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

I guess this is a good time to ask: has anyone added weights into the cab of newer sterns?

Probably couldn't support them.

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