(Topic ID: 233683)

What will be the next 5k System 11?


By Vino

4 months ago



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“What is the next 5k System 11?”

  • Mousin Around 22 votes
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  • Bad Cats 23 votes
    18%
  • Swords of Fury 21 votes
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  • Transporter the Rescue 25 votes
    20%
  • Fire! Champagne Edition 10 votes
    8%
  • Other (please list) 26 votes
    20%

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#101 4 months ago

What are the most expensive sys 11 these days? I would guess....

Whirlwind
EATPM
Diner

#102 4 months ago

Yeah, no.

Add Radical, Banzai Run, and TransporterTTR is somewhere in the top 5 as well. Even though Whirlwind is the better game, it's more likely to be 3rd or 4th in raw price.

Oddball DP releases, HUO, NIB, or restored machines have no limit from the start. Those don't really belong in this thread. It's like throwing a HEP or NIB Getaway into a "What is a players condition Getaway worth?" conversation.

There are really no player's condition system 11 machines that consistently command 5K or more, outside of a NICE BR. If that changes, no one cares. Life goes on.

#103 4 months ago

This BR

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#104 4 months ago

BR is a cool ass game... I just wish the replay value and gameplay was there to go along with the uniqueness factor+price. Condition is key. Anyone in this hobby for years has seen deals on just about every system 11 machine. For me personally, in my entire life, I've seen 2 BR's and 1 TTTR change hands at shows. All three were sold for less than 5K. In absolute honesty, it really means nothing. The value is only relevant at the present time and it essentially unknown until a sale happens.

#105 4 months ago
Quoted from pinaholic:

This BR
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Hot damn! That is beautiful!

#106 4 months ago

I have a fully restored bop available, diamond plate new playfield. Immaculate inside and out. Still wouldnt expect to get 5 k for it. Would be open to offers though

#107 4 months ago

I find it funny that someone who owns a restored BOP doesn't know it's a WPC game. I guess that's just where we are in the world that is Pinside.

You know, I once owned a "System 11" that wasn't even a Pinball machine. Shocking, I know.

#108 4 months ago
Quoted from Ozzy:

I have a fully restored bop available, diamond plate new playfield. Immaculate inside and out. Still wouldnt expect to get 5 k for it. Would be open to offers though

Get outta here with this WPC crap!!

System 11 only.

#109 4 months ago

What's the major difference in features between Sys11 and early WPC? I get where the confusion can happen because BOP and Funhouse still use alpha displays. But then wasn't Funhouse originally tested or released on the Sys11 platform? So couldn't it be considered a spiritual Sys11? What are the major features that define "Sys11 gameplay" versus later games?

Mind you I'm not advocating for BOP of FH to be valid to the pricing discussion. But from a technical standpoint, I do find those transitional games interesting. Some people lump System 9 games on the other end as well - even Williams did from a serviceability aspect.

#110 4 months ago
Quoted from goingincirclez:

What are the major features that define "Sys11 gameplay" versus later games?

It has nothing to do with features. THE GAME HAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SET OF BOARDS IN THE HEAD. System 11 is not a kind of game, it describes the boards in the head that run the game.

#111 4 months ago

see here

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-------------SYS 11 BOARDS

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-------------BOP--WPC BOARDS

The only oddball crossovers here would be a prototype Dr. Dude with WPC boards in it OR the odd 6803 Atlantis which used a sys 11 sound board.

#112 4 months ago
Quoted from snyper2099:

I find it funny that someone who owns a restored BOP doesn't know it's a WPC game. I guess that's just where we are in the world that is Pinside.

Lol!

Alpha displays = Sys11 to the masses.

Quoted from Methos:

What are the most expensive sys 11 these days? I would guess....
Whirlwind
EATPM
Diner

Banzai Run.

rd

#113 4 months ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Lol! Alpha displays = Sys11 to the masses.

Close enough for me. Been in the hobby for 20 years and own several system 11 games and a Funhouse so know FH and BOP are WPC-89 board set.
Still would classify them as a system 11 era games. Sorry guys.

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#114 4 months ago
Quoted from arcademojo:

Still would classify them as a system 11 era games. Sorry guys.

Cool, I guess 6803 games are now system 11 too because I say so.

This goes right along with stupid ass concepts like DMD games are superior and anything in pinball prior to the use of them is boring and lame. Pinball has nothing to do with a display. The "display" itself is actually an inconvenience on nearly ever machine that I have ever played. I swear that no one on this damn site even cares about pinball at all, they only care about how their shiny boats and ding dongs look.

Rant over.

#115 4 months ago
Quoted from snyper2099:

Cool, I guess 6803 games are now system 11 too because I say so.
This goes right along with stupid ass concepts like DMD games are superior and anything in pinball prior to the use of them is boring and lame. Pinball has nothing to do with a display. The "display" itself is actually an inconvenience on nearly ever machine that I have ever played. I swear that no one on this damn site even cares about pinball at all, they only care about how their shiny boats and ding dongs look.
Rant over.

Haha, a little toasty are ya. I am talking about how the game plays it self. That is why I said "era" game. Even BOP 2.0 with a DMD still plays like a system 11 era game.

#116 4 months ago

5K. Not in NZ (1.1K US)

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#117 4 months ago
Quoted from arcademojo:

Haha, a little toasty are ya. I am talking about how the game plays it self. That is why I said "era" game. Even BOP 2.0 with a DMD still plays like a system 11 era game.

If you believe this, your ears must be broken.

WPC was a huge step forward regarding so many individual game features, sound included.

#118 4 months ago
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:

5K. Not in NZ (1.1K US)
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It must be added that that pin didn’t work, so the buyer was taking a gamble. Maybe a $700 NZD one of it needed a new MPU board.

And it appeared to have a little drag wear above the left flipper.

In saying that, I thought $1600 NZD was a score for that game, only 850 were made, and it’s a great game to play. Ugly! But a good player.

rd

#119 4 months ago

Ok, I hope I have this right for our NZ folks.

What will be the next $7353.02 System 11?

#120 4 months ago
Quoted from Vino:

Ok, I believe I have this right for our NZ folks.
What will be the next $7353.02 System 11?

Banzai Run for sure. If I advertised mine for $8000 NZD, 99% an Australian would buy it within minutes and ship it there.

I don’t think too many others would sell for $7000 bucks.

I think I’d get $5000 NZD for my EATPM, maybe a few others - the minty Diner, the restored Mousin, the Whirlwind when I get the new PF in it.

Like everywhere else on the planet, pin prices have gone nuts. I paid around $1000 NZD each for the majority of the Sys11s I own 5-15 years ago (except the 3-4 I had to import to NZ to get the whole set of 30)

rd

#122 4 months ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Banzai Run for sure. If I advertised mine for $8000 NZD, 99% an Australian would buy it within minutes and ship it there.
I don’t think too many others would sell for $7000 bucks.
I think I’d get $5000 NZD for my EATPM, maybe a few others - the minty Diner, the restored Mousin, the Whirlwind when I get the new PF in it.
Like everywhere else on the planet, pin prices have gone nuts. I paid around $1000 NZD each for the majority of the Sys11s I own 5-15 years ago (except the 3-4 I had to import to NZ to get the whole set of 30)
rd

The thread is $5k USD! Not $3900 lol.

#124 4 months ago
Quoted from snyper2099:

If you believe this, your ears must be broken.
WPC was a huge step forward regarding so many individual game features, sound included.

not on BoP and FH. those were basically system 11s with the WPC boards running the s/w. gameplay is way more sys11 than typical WPC games.

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