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What to make of this new trend


By Sea_Wolf

3 months ago



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    #1 3 months ago

    It seems that more and more of these ads are popping up on Craigslist lately. I understand if a machine is totaled and not salvageable, in fact I appreciate someone keeping any part of them alive but I wonder if there is a serious market now for semi-rich tools trying to impress friends with his retro man cave Wall art. To each his own but I hope this isn’t fixable EMs and early SSs getting gutted for Wall trophies. Makes a low end pinman weep.

    indianapolis.craigslist.org link

    #2 3 months ago

    tilt cycle makes me weep

    rethemes too..

    #3 3 months ago

    You need a Sea Wolf, and I might have one for sale

    #4 3 months ago
    Quoted from Sea_Wolf:

    To each his own but I hope this isn’t fixable EMs and early SSs getting gutted for Wall trophies.

    I've seen way too many pins get parted out just because the person who owned had no clue about repairs. Basically, "it doesn't turn on, so it's garbage". It's heartbreaking.

    Half the games I fix up are completely dead, but I get them flipping again. I wish people weren't so quick to disregard them and would just pass them along to others who are willing to fix them instead of destroying them.

    Heck, I've had more than a few games that just needed a few minor board repairs and a shop job, and they were back up and running. Nothing too catastrophic.

    #5 3 months ago

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    This machine was advertised by a well-established Amusements Company in Greensboro NC as a great coffee table candidate. They had zero interest (or knowledge, it seemed at the time of pickup) in EMs.

    Its inevitable that a trend will be responsible for the demise of low-hanging EM fruit, when it starts taking viable machines its just sad.
    It could be worse, with the chainsaw guy cutting them in half for thrills, or a re-make of the movie Tommy.

    #6 3 months ago
    Quoted from Sea_Wolf:

    It seems that more and more of these ads are popping up on Craigslist lately. I understand if a machine is totaled and not salvageable, in fact I appreciate someone keeping any part of them alive but I wonder if there is a serious market now for semi-rich tools trying to impress friends with his retro man cave Wall art. To each his own but I hope this isn’t fixable EMs and early SSs getting gutted for Wall trophies. Makes a low end pinman weep.
    indianapolis.craigslist.org link

    That it does.

    #7 3 months ago

    Not new.

    Parting out happens often with games predominantly due to lack of profitability within the general market. The wheels of time turn. This is more of a "phased trend" as it goes in cycles with pinball revivals when somebody is trying to cash in a quick buck. The numbers of EMs parted out today is a pittance compared to those that outright placed in landfills in the early 80s or the WPC games destroyed for their boardsets in the early 00s. Some titles have already been expunged completely from pinball history.

    Save what complete games you can, but if not reuse the rest. I have squirrelled away my share of backglasses and parts as titles were prepared to be thrown out in dumpsters. If I tried to save every game in existence I ran into, I would have a full warehouse. Instead I try to pass the games onto people that I know will restore them properly, as I don't have the energy to do this anymore.

    #8 3 months ago
    Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

    Some titles have already been expunged completely from pinball history.

    Are you aware of what these titles were? Primarily pre-60's or newer?

    #9 3 months ago
    Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

    Not new.
    Parting out happens often with games predominantly due to lack of profitability within the general market. The wheels of time turn. This is more of a "phased trend" as it goes in cycles with pinball revivals when somebody is trying to cash in a quick buck. The numbers of EMs parted out today is a pittance compared to those that outright placed in landfills in the early 80s or the WPC games destroyed for their boardsets in the early 00s. Some titles have already been expunged completely from pinball history.
    Save what complete games you can, but if not reuse the rest. I have squirrelled away my share of backglasses and parts as titles were prepared to be thrown out in dumpsters. If I tried to save every game in existence I ran into, I would have a full warehouse. Instead I try to pass the games onto people that I know will restore them properly, as I don't have the energy to do this anymore.

    No doubt there were much more casualties to older pins 30 years ago, I guess I just wish people knew that most of these beauties can be brought back to life. I know before I gained basic knowledge of how EMs operate, I just thought there was no way something that looked so intricate and complicated was worth fooling with. This Pinside community is the best thing to happen to the hobby that I could imagine.

    Another dilemma facing these older machines is just plain apathy. Last year a Gottlieb Spirit of 76 came up on EBay in pretty rough shape but it was an easy 2 hour drive away and even though I had zero knowledge about fixing up EMs, I was willing to buy it cheap and drag it home to learn on. Problem was, the machine had been in a storage unit for well over a decade, it didn’t power up, had rust and dirt everywhere and the cabinet was partially rotted out and needed to be rebuilt and the guy was asking $550. Even though the playfield and back glass were in decent shape, nobody was going to give him close to $550. He then relisted it at $400 and still no bites. I finally contacted him and told him I’d give him $150 for it or he could list on eBay for $1 and let people bid on it. He asked when I could come and pick it up and I told him with my work schedule it would probably be 2 weeks and he told me to call before I came down.

    I called 10 days later and he told me his son got pissed that he could get at least $400 for it and to get it out of the way he drove it to neighbor’s house and threw it into a rented construction dumpster.

    I guess I just wish everyone could see the beauty in these machines like we do. I know we can’t save them all but once they’re gone, they’re gone for good.

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