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What the Hell is up with Las Vegas


By jhanley

2 years ago



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#1 2 years ago

I grew up in Las Vegas so I might have a different perspective but that place has turned into the ultimate place to suck every last penny from you in every way.About 3 years ago we went there and if you were gambling they would give you a free drink at most strip hotels.A couple of days ago me and my wife go to the Excalibur.We both put $20 dollars in the poker machines at this really dirty bar expecting to get a beer and a mixed drink.The bartender gives me a beer and tells us we have to pay $14 bucks for the gin and tonic. I pay $455 dollars to stay 2 nights at Caesars Palace as we were seeing Rod Stewart which costs $229 a ticket plus other bullshit fees and then see a $26 dollar online charge added extra.Before the concert we decided to sit at the bar at Caesars and play some poker and have a drink.We both put $20 dollars in and are playing when the bartender there says we have to bet a dollar a hand to get a free drink.We bought our own drinks at the tune of $22 bucks for a beer and a mixed drink.We finished playing and still had half of our drinks but had to get to the restaurant at Caesars.We get ready to go in and the Hostess tells us we have to FINISH our drinks before we get a table.We ask why.She says that the restaurant is separate from Caesars and that is their policy.Then when we check out they try to charge us for the mini bar in our room which already had things took out of it when we got the room which I called them about when we arrived plus $15 charge for WiFi we didn't use.We ate breakfast and it was $120 for four of us for F&*king simple breakfast.The first day we got 4 donuts and 4 coffees and it was 60 bucks.WTF has happened to that place where you could go anywhere and get a $2.99 breakfast at any casino.They charge you up the ass for everything.3 years ago I could valet park and give the valet a tip after picking up my car.Now at Caesars it costs $14 dollars up front to do the same.I was born there but I'm never going back.The original Vegas that I grew up in the 60's and 70's is dead.

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#2 2 years ago
Quoted from jhanley:

I grew up in Las Vegas so I might have a different perspective but that place has turned into the ultimate place to suck every last penny from you in every way.About 3 years ago we went there and if you were gambling they would give you a free drink at most strip hotels.A couple of days ago me and my wife go to the Excalibur.We both put $20 dollars in the poker machines at this really dirty bar expecting to get a beer and a mixed drink.The bartender gives me a beer and tells us we have to pay $14 bucks for the gin and tonic. I pay $455 dollars to stay 2 nights at Caesars Palace as we were seeing Rod Stewart which costs $229 a ticket plus other bullshit fees and then see a $26 dollar online charge added extra.Before the concert we decided to sit at the bar at Caesars and play some poker and have a drink.We both put $20 dollars in and are playing when the bartender there says we have to bet a dollar a hand to get a free drink.We bought our own drinks at the tune of $22 bucks for a beer and a mixed drink.We finished playing and still had half of our drinks but had to get to the restaurant at Caesars.We get ready to go in and the Hostess tells us we have to FINISH our drinks before we get a table.We ask why.She says that the restaurant is separate from Caesars and that is their policy.Then when we check out they try to charge us for the mini bar in our room which already had things took out of it when we got the room which I called them about when we arrived plus $15 charge for WiFi we didn't use.We ate breakfast and it was $120 for four of us for F&*king simple breakfast.The first day we got 4 donuts and 4 coffees and it was 60 bucks.WTF has happened to that place where you could go anywhere and get a $2.99 breakfast at any casino.They charge you up the ass for everything.3 years ago I could valet park and give the valet a tip after picking up my car.Now at Caesars it costs $14 dollars up front to do the same.I was born there but I'm never going back.The original Vegas that I grew up in the 60's and 70's is dead.

That is actually a global disease...unfortunately

#3 2 years ago

Yup, Vegas has changed. It's big business now. It has changed a lot even from 1990 to now. There used to be lots of buffet deals. Not now. It still has good entertainment, but you will pay for that. Pins used to be relatively cheap too.

#4 2 years ago

They charge you to park in self parking too even if your staying there.

#5 2 years ago

Vegas sucks ass. I don't see the appeal.

Well I do see the appeal - it's a theme park for grownups who live in the suburbs. It also appeals to gamblers.

But certainly, it's not for cheapskates anymore. I do wish I could have seen it during the $4 buffet heyday of yesteryear.

#6 2 years ago

Sounds like Di$ney World!

#7 2 years ago

i love it but seems the drinks were more around the table games, consistently.

I saw a waitress with a gigantic tray of drinks

seems if your gonna get a free one u better be prepared to wait a hour for one as they fulfill them all at once lol

the tables were frequented much more rapidly, at least from what i saw

#8 2 years ago

I do have to say that the Tournament of Kings show at the Excalibur was worth the money.$55 for dinner and show but $14 dollars for a mixed drink and $8 for a beer that cost's them 25 cents if that.

#9 2 years ago

I probably spent more on shows then flight and hotel stay together lol

great shows but man they run heavy

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#10 2 years ago

I prefer the pinball hall of fame

where 5 bucks can last for hours !!!

#11 2 years ago
Quoted from electricsquirrel:

Sounds like Di$ney World!

Disney world gives you free bus service to and from the airport.

#12 2 years ago

The Mob Museum was great as was the Neon Museum although if you are a non resident they charge you twice the price.

#13 2 years ago

I went to Vegas many times between 2000-2008. It was a paradise. Sounds like a giant rip off now. What the hell?

Aside from the Resort Fee crap, Reno still treats you right.

#14 2 years ago

Is Rent-a-Wreck still in operation? If not, I'm out too

#15 2 years ago
Quoted from NorCalRealtor:

I went to Vegas many times between 2000-2008. It was a paradise. Sounds like a giant rip off now. What the hell?
Aside from the Resort Fee crap, Reno still treats you right.

I love Reno.It's a lot like Vegas used to be

#16 2 years ago

Food and Beverage has become big business. The fact is, the casinos make more off of the hotels, shows, and F&B than they do on the gambling anymore. You can blame the "family friendly" atmosphere that started the ball rolling downhill, which is why they have started a campaign to bring back Sin City. The vast majority of folks travelling there anymore are not gamblers...they are family vacationers, and people attending trade shows. The city and industry are a victim of their own success.

#17 2 years ago

My wife was looking at the prices of some of the Restaurants at Caesars.They had one that had a $125 dollar steak.The most I ever paid for a steak was at Commanders Palace in New Orleans and it was just over $50.The best rated restaurant in New Orleans and you have to wear a suit to dine there.

#18 2 years ago

Accountants. The FBI and the local police like to take credit for running the Mob out of Vegas. It is my opinion that it was the accountants that ran them out.

My wife and I used to go to Vegas back in the Mob days. It was a great cheap vacation. I worked for an airline and February was airline appreciation month. We got rooms at the Tropicana for $7.77 a night. One time we got a suite a Caesar's for $11.77 a night.

Buffets were $1.77 for breakfast, $3.77 for lunch and $5.77 (sometimes $7.77) for dinner. There was always the $1.77 T-bone and 2 egg breakfast from The Sands from 2am to 5am.

Show tickets were usually under $10 and most casinos had a spin the wheel or a giant slot machine out front and you could win tickets.

So for about $60 we could spend a nice weekend out, gamble a little and have some nice meals and a show or two. Last month I spent 5 days there for a conference and it cost over $1000 for just myself (company money, not mine thankfully) and that didn't count any dinners (sponsor "wined and dined" us).

It's cheaper now to go to an all-inclusive in Cancun than it is to go to Vegas. Such a shame.

ken

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#19 2 years ago

Are you saying it doesn't look like this anymore?

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#20 2 years ago

Free drinks and affordable buffets in Black Hawk, Co..

#21 2 years ago

Vegas is now a destination for global travelers, many of whom are wealthy.
The Strip no longer caters to Americans.
I hear soo many other languages besides English, 10 or 15 years ago it wasn't that way.

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#22 2 years ago

Downtown Vegas is where it's at.

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#23 2 years ago

Stay downtown, the Golden Nugget is great since they redid it a few year ago and there are a few other places where they've redone all the rooms recently. The food is cheaper, the gambling minimums are lower, and drinks are much more free flowing... or if you buy them, they are way cheaper. Plus there is a lot of free music, street entertainers, and it's easy to walk from casino to bar to restaurant, everything is close together. I stopped staying on the strip about 5 years ago, and even when I was staying on the strip, I was doing more of my drinking and gambling downtown.

If you gamble on the strip, go to a place like Casino Royale, where they have lower min bets and you still get decent drink service, but you will get free drinks all day long at most of the casinos downtown.

#24 2 years ago

Downtown used to be where it's at until most of the cool places folded--Fitzgerald's, Las Vegas Club, Union Plaza, Lucky Strike, etc. and the remaining casinos "modernized"--Four Queens, Nugget. The Fremont Experience blows and ruined what is left of old downtown.

#25 2 years ago

Sadly,this is true!!I also saw the early Vegas,as I was stationed at Nellis A.F.B.During Vietnam! Vegas is admittidly dyeing!! The same thing is happing in Reno,in the larger "resort" hotels !You should see the older parts of north Vegas,you'd swear your in a south L.A.Ghetto!! They are trying to flip properties there now to try to get some interest,with the Raiders coming in 2 years! Summary: Gambling is for the Indians now!!

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#26 2 years ago

$229 to see Rod Stewart? That should be a crime.

I've just been blown away by the cost to do *anything* these days. I sound like a curmudgeon but it seems like the last ten years the cost of EVERYTHING has skyrocketed.

#27 2 years ago

Agree, its bad. LV used to be a slam dunk for at least 2 or 3 trips a year, especially in the summer when it got really cheap. Book a room, jump in the car, and head out, just like in The Hangover. It used to be so much fun, and being as how I was pretty poor in the 70s and 80s it was great to get the free drinks, 99 cent shrimp cocktail, 1.99 steak and eggs, etc. Sit by the pool at the Tropicana all day and watch the scenery.

Now it is just so damn tedious it is painful. The most appalling thing to me are the restaurants in the casinos, from casual on up. They charge so much money and it is usually not very good. And now, charging for parking?? That is absurd. Of course the minimum bets are higher, you are lucky to play for 10$. The shows are ridiculous.

It is hard to believe the shows I got to see back in the day for nothing more than $20 or $30 seats. The big ones of course like Folies Bergere and such, plus Smothers Brothers, Charo, Rich Little, Rodney Dangerfield, Don Rickles, and who knows how many I forgot about. It was great when you just bought tickets to the show, then you lined up and when you got to the front just slip the guy a 10 and you would sit right up front. I sat 3 feet from Don Rickles for the entire show and yes he nailed me. Now the cheapest shows are $150-200 and that is to sit in the back. As far as Cirque, it was OK the first 5 times I saw one, but that's enough.

Nowadays we just go over there once every 2-3 years. And every time when we're done we swear we're never going back.

When they covered downtown that to me was the beginning of the end.

#28 2 years ago

Vegas is for SUCKERS !! Who in there right mind thinks there going to go to any casino any where's and win more then they have put in has got LOSER written all over there face and deserve to be taken for all they have in there pockets. Those casino's didn't get that nice by letting people win. And then there's the people that think there getting a "free room and meal" because they spent thousands of dollars there......LOL.
It's as simple as that.

John

#29 2 years ago

My dad moved there in 1946 and worked at many casinos including the Flamingo which he was a dealer when Bugsy Siegel ran it.When I lived there in the 70's you could see concerts at the Aladdin Theatre for the Performing arts for no more than 15 or 20 bucks.Fremont was the best cruising street ever.I had a lot of fun back then but now it's just a ugly big city.

#30 2 years ago

Your first mistake was staying at Ceasar's.... jeebus. Stratosphere might be a mile and a half from everything, but we were not treated like that there. We didn't really attempt to get free alcohol, but still...

Even the buffet at Ceasar's is ridiculous...the Bacchanal? It was by far the most expensive buffet we went to in 5 days, and the one we liked the LEAST. Want to say it was like 120 EACH?!? But YOLO, ya know? The best thing they had was a blood orange beer sorbet. Just depressing for the money. Won't be going back in there to gamble or eat, ever. Next time we go, we're definitely going over to Fremont to poke around.

Quoted from Trekkie1978:

Disney world gives you free bus service to and from the airport.

LOL this is so true as well. It was cheaper for us to take an Uber from the airport than it was to take one of the shuttles, because the shuttles charge PER PERSON, and Uber doesn't!

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#31 2 years ago

I just got home from Vegas yesterday, I toured a timeshare for 2 hours, and they comped my three nights, gave me free show tickets, and paid us 150 bucks cash. I don't gamble so I played the pins at Fremont arcade, and at NYNY, they were in amazing shape!
Now I don't gamble, but had 30 minutes to burn before we left, I dropped two quarters in Elvis at Excalibur and won 100 bucks. I cashed out.
I guess it's different for each person.

#32 2 years ago
Quoted from Cornelius:

Downtown Vegas is where it's at.

Especially at night. Super especially in front of the drive-up motel rooms in front of Circus Circus.

#33 2 years ago
Quoted from Dayhuff:

Vegas is for SUCKERS !! Who in there right mind thinks there going to go to any casino any where's and win more then they have put in has got LOSER written all over there face and deserve to be taken for all they have in there pockets. Those casino's didn't get that nice by letting people win. And then there's the people that think there getting a "free room and meal" because they spent thousands of dollars there......LOL.
It's as simple as that.
John

My favorite part, and this has been true for years, is how every single person that goes there is a winner every time they go. I'm not kidding, I can't even count how many times I've listened to this story. "Every time I go to LV, I win money. Or sometimes I break even." No one EVER comes back and says they lost money!

Always wondered how they built all that fancy stuff when everyone who visits there wins money

#34 2 years ago
Quoted from Dayhuff:

Vegas is for SUCKERS !! Who in there right mind thinks there going to go to any casino any where's and win more then they have put in has got LOSER written all over there face and deserve to be taken for all they have in there pockets. Those casino's didn't get that nice by letting people win. And then there's the people that think there getting a "free room and meal" because they spent thousands of dollars there......LOL.
It's as simple as that.
John

Haha not true. My buddies dad bought the most expensive house in town with his Vegas winnings.

Hmm but he lost it a year later and they moved back to the sticks...so maybe you are right

#35 2 years ago

sigma derby is why you need to go!!!!

#36 2 years ago

I go to Vegas every year. My room is always comped for 3 of the 4 nights but the "resort charge" is growing yearly. It's now $39 per night at the Venetian for the charge. It definitely costs some money but if you gamble, do it at the tables and not the slots. Much better odds there. Be prepared to lose what you brought and be happy if you don't. I always have a good time.

#37 2 years ago

Short of our last day there, we had broken even on gambling. Had a bit of a YOLO moment though and decided it was already budgeted to be lost, so we kept playing. Oh well?

Those Aruze slot machines are f---king technological wonders. Reels on steppers so you still have some kind of physical reel even if it's fully computer controlled, that do nuts things...reels spinning backwards, in slow motion, shaking, lining up, and clear LCD displays for bonus rounds. If someone knows how I could get ahold of one (legal to own slots in TX, already checked) I'd be *VERY* interested, as I contacted Aruze and they basically said they only sell through their distributors...which they wouldn't tell me who that was, heh.

Can't tell you how many times we had relatively big wins on their Aztec or "wolf moon" themed games.. think my best one was a 90 buck win on a 20 cent spin...

#38 2 years ago

Stay away from the tourist-trap quagmire and Vegas kicks ass.

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#39 2 years ago
Quoted from Dayhuff:

Vegas is for SUCKERS !! Who in there right mind thinks there going to go to any casino any where's and win more then they have put in has got LOSER written all over there face and deserve to be taken for all they have in there pockets. Those casino's didn't get that nice by letting people win. And then there's the people that think there getting a "free room and meal" because they spent thousands of dollars there......LOL.
It's as simple as that.John

I've paid for my entire trip before with poker and craps wins, multiple times. I don't plan to win, I budget how much I can gamble each day. It's funny though, the last two times I've been to Vegas has been for a big music festival and I've barely gambled at all.

#40 2 years ago

I can go down there once in awhile but whats getting really scary is highway 93 which is the only way down there.When we went home me and my family almost got in a head on when some a hole was passing 2 semis.I had to pull all the way off the road to the right going 75 miles an hour.Scared the hell out of my wife who told me I had just saved our lives.When we were 1 mile from our town a bird carrying a ground squirrel dropped it and it hit my grill and bounced into the windshield. It was a interesting day.

#41 2 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

Your first mistake was staying at Ceasar's.... jeebus. Stratosphere might be a mile and a half from everything, but we were not treated like that there. We didn't really attempt to get free alcohol, but still...
Even the buffet at Ceasar's is ridiculous...the Bacchanal? It was by far the most expensive buffet we went to in 5 days, and the one we liked the LEAST. Want to say it was like 120 EACH?!? But YOLO, ya know? The best thing they had was a blood orange beer sorbet. Just depressing for the money. Won't be going back in there to gamble or eat, ever. Next time we go, we're definitely going over to Fremont to poke around.

LOL this is so true as well. It was cheaper for us to take an Uber from the airport than it was to take one of the shuttles, because the shuttles charge PER PERSON, and Uber doesn't!

We stayed at Caesars because we had my 14 year old daughter and her friend with us and were seeing the show there.

#42 2 years ago

Vegas hasn't been the same since Moe Greene passed

#43 2 years ago

Yeah that's another thing is that people who do "win" dont' know when to quit and then end up putting it right back in the machine and usually more. If I were to ever play and win anything I'd cash out right then and never go back because the odd's of doing it again are just a little bit against you.

John

#44 2 years ago
Quoted from boscokid:

Vegas hasn't been the same since Moe Greene passed

Moe Greene is a character in the Godfather.The real guy was Moe Dalitz

#45 2 years ago
Quoted from Billy16:

Downtown used to be where it's at until most of the cool places folded--Fitzgerald's, Las Vegas Club, Union Plaza, Lucky Strike, etc. and the remaining casinos "modernized"--Four Queens, Nugget. The Fremont Experience blows and ruined what is left of old downtown.

I don't agree with you, but I do admit I was very sad to see The Gold Spike turned into a hipster clubhouse and The Western shuttered. At least we still have the El Cortez for that good 'ol shitty, awesome atmosphere.

#46 2 years ago
Quoted from Dayhuff:

Vegas is for SUCKERS !! Who in there right mind thinks there going to go to any casino and win more then they have put in has got LOSER written all over there face and deserve to be taken for all they have in there pockets. Those casino's didn't get that nice by letting people win. And then there's the people that think there getting a "free room and meal" because they spent thousands of dollars there......LOL.
It's as simple as that.
John

I disagree 100% John. I go to Vegas to gamble 1 - 2 times a year, but I play poker and bet on football. I am not playing the house on those.

#47 2 years ago
Quoted from Darkwing:

Especially at night. Super especially in front of the drive-up motel rooms in front of Circus Circus.

That's not downtown Vegas

#48 2 years ago

I liked Vegas when you actually got paid in quarters when you cashed out your slot. Loved walking around with a bucket of quarters. That stupid piece of paper you get now sucks. I was there last 4 years ago and decided that was it. Seems like a domestic beer averaged about $8. Didn't play any slots or game tables. Just football(that is gambling at its funnest if you ask me). I did see Tears for Fears at the beach and it was one of the best laid back concerts I ever went to. That was probably 6 years ago. But yes, I'm done with Vegas.

#49 2 years ago

We were in Vegas last week. Stayed at the Golden Gate for 30 dollars a night. We were there Monday through Wednesday. All the casinos downtown are within walking distance and they still have 5 dollar Black Jack and Craps tables. Golden Nugget was the only one that said we had to bet a dollar before the drinks were free. Food is pricey but other than that it was pretty cheap vacation. The hotel rooms have been remodeled and are up to date. I don't even go to the big casinos anymore unless I am going to see a show. Its a complete rip off at the newer ones.

#50 2 years ago

The Golden Gate is so excellent, those rooms are so hilariously tiny and awesome. You don't go to Vegas to sit in your hotel room!

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