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What should I do with this backglass?

By xgizzle

8 years ago


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#1 8 years ago

Need opinions from the EM crowd. Bringing a barn decayed Shangri-La back from the dead. Should I just leave the gaping holes and cover it with triple thick or should I least first try to paint in the big areas that I am able to do without making it look crappy? I know there are places that restores these but I'm thinking short term. I got this thing dirt cheap and a pro backglass restore job is not in the budget at the moment(maybe later).

#2 8 years ago

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#3 8 years ago

You'll want to seal it first and then do any restoration on top of the clear seal.

#4 8 years ago

Find graphics that you can print onto waterslide decal, and apply to those areas, seal a second time......

#5 8 years ago

Make sure you mask the areas that should be clear, then triple thick, then touch up after the triple thick.

#6 8 years ago

I'm no expert and I don't even play one on TV, but here's a pic of my Solar Ride backglass after Triple thick and some careful touch up. It wasn't in as bad a shape as yours but it was certainly noticeable. Now, looks pretty darn good I must say. Good luck, it's worth saving.

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#7 8 years ago

Xgizzle you are probably aware of the section on the cling wrap trick here:

http://www.pinrepair.com/restore/index1.htm#wrap

but just in case you're not, its works and can save more peeling paint.

Good luck

#8 8 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

You'll want to seal it first and then do any restoration on top of the clear seal.

Agreed. Find some scrap glass and practice a bit first. Paint your colors on the test piece and compare. When your comfortable you can turn your hat backwards and have at it.

#9 8 years ago

Agree to clear coat the back glass before attempting to do any touch ups. Back glasses are really tough to do, especially where there is light transmission though the ink/paint. I don't do this a lot but have been very successful on Flash Back glasses replacing the red that always fails on them. I use an airbrush and Createx transparent paints, then back with white. With Createx, if you are not happy with the first result you can just wipe it off and try again....assuming you clear coated first. Attempting to brush paint the touchups will leave brush marks...airbrush works much better.

#10 8 years ago

Just another great 60's Williams backglass that needs to be done. I have this game and even though the glass is in much better shape, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to buy a repro. We'll have to keep our fingers crossed.

#11 8 years ago

I was just thinking the same thing. Shay announced he would be doing more Williams glasses in the future. From what I understand Shangri-La is a title worthy of a reproduction.

#12 8 years ago
Quoted from 4Max:

Xgizzle you are probably aware of the section on the cling wrap trick here:
http://www.pinrepair.com/restore/index1.htm#wrap
but just in case you're not, its works and can save more peeling paint.
Good luck

I glanced through this once before. I shall go through it more carefully.

Quoted from DirtFlipper:

You'll want to seal it first and then do any restoration on top of the clear seal.

I am glad you said that, I thought it was the other way around. I thought that was the final step.

Quoted from chris_silver:

Agreed. Find some scrap glass and practice a bit first. Paint your colors on the test piece and compare. When your comfortable you can turn your hat backwards and have at it.

Thanks for the advice I will try this.

Thank you all for the input.

#13 8 years ago

I've got a spare Shangri-La backglass. It's in pretty good shape. the only issue is see is some lines in the girls face. I could trade it with you or I can make some high-res images for you. Just let me know.

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#14 8 years ago

I would make a deal with Reppie but shipping from the Netherlands might be an issue.

#15 8 years ago

And of all places too, right on the primary girl's face.

Kind of a shame.

#16 8 years ago

C'mooooon, Shay!

#17 8 years ago

Look at this guy tooting his horn to impress the chick with the funny hat..

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#18 8 years ago
Quoted from xgizzle:

I am glad you said that, I thought it was the other way around. I thought that was the final step.

The first seal is to protect what's left of the original ink. Then as you restore it, you can wipe off/redo anything as needed without damaging the protected original. Then after finishing the resto work, you can seal that as well.

#19 8 years ago

I have an old EM gun game with a backglass about in the same shape. I got someone to send me some high res pics of their game and printed out the sections that are bad on mine onto plain paper and taped it to the back of the backglass after sealing it with tripple thick first. It looks pretty good. Most people don't notice it unless I point it out. I think it looks much better than some that I tried to repaint with brushes. I don't have an air brush to try that. I would guess an air brush would look better. But this is a quick and easy way to fix it and easily reversible as well. The only hard part was getting the size right. I had to adjust the print size a few times to get it to line up correctly. But once I got the correct size it was easy to print out the sections needed.

#20 8 years ago

Good tip!

#21 8 years ago
Quoted from reppie:

Look at this guy tooting his horn to impress the chick with the funny hat..

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Such a great glass!

One of Christian Marche's best, if not his best.

#22 8 years ago
Quoted from kguenther6:

I have an old EM gun game with a backglass about in the same shape. I got someone to send me some high res pics of their game and printed out the sections that are bad on mine onto plain paper and taped it to the back of the backglass after sealing it with tripple thick first. It looks pretty good. Most people don't notice it unless I point it out. I think it looks much better than some that I tried to repaint with brushes. I don't have an air brush to try that. I would guess an air brush would look better. But this is a quick and easy way to fix it and easily reversible as well. The only hard part was getting the size right. I had to adjust the print size a few times to get it to line up correctly. But once I got the correct size it was easy to print out the sections needed.

That is a good idea I may have to look into. Thanks.

#23 8 years ago

Here's one I did with some old fashioned brushes

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