Quoted from maddog14:

I think that all of them are at a loss how to be as interesting as the two time Twipy winner.

Quoted from jandrea95:

I want to play pinball with anyone and everyone, except Steeler fans.

Quoted from o-din:

I wouldn't even sign up for facebook to find that once hot girl I went to high school with, let alone for that.
Well, on the bright side, it's will no longer be wasting front page space on pinside.

Quoted from Darscot:

Man I'm as liberal as the come and this thread is bananas. I can't tell what is sarcasm, what is humor, are people actually offended or is this all just drama. People are taking this way to seriously, diversity in a pinball podcast, this shit can't be real.

Quoted from John_I:

Something tells me the only change I will see is to go from ten podcasts that I never listened to even once to one pinball channel that I never listen to once. Oh well, good luck with that.

Quoted from screaminr:

This sums up where this thread has gotten to for me .

Quoted from screaminr:

have we really got to the point where a group of people can't get together and if they don't have certain minorities in their group they're labelled as sexist or racist but I suppose we have .

Quoted from Frax:

If Kaneda is winning TWIPY awards, or other awards...it's because you people keep voting for him,

Quoted from ZMeny:

Eric, there’s a lot more behind the scenes that no one knows about that is very sad, but to avoid starting any more drama I won’t go into it. But believe me, being slandered as a sexist publicly would upset many people, especially when we are trying to create content from many different providers to celebrate pinball. The disheartening behavior will come out one day, but we are moving forward and excited about what’s to come in pinball for 2020.

Quoted from DBLM:

Who’s real outraged, faked outraged, and thinks this whole this is beyond stupid? Hard to keep track anymore.

Quoted from wesman:

Man, now I wish I had some Taco Bell, AND a beer!!

Quoted from wesman:

Yow.
I just listened to her episode from the other day. Had never heard her name, podcast, etc prior. After listening, I still have no reason to know her name, podcast, etc. (And she certainly doesn't need to know or value mine...and I give no shits either way, past this post.)
I feel we live in this bizarro world presently, where everyone expects, demands to be liked, appreciated, included, valued, heard, represented, etc. For me (past a basic extension of value and care we all should allow one another cordially) that mindset represents the ultimate vision of entitlement.
I don't care. Don't need to care. As much as you, they, whomever doesn't need to care about me.
We are not deserved anything. And that entire rant of hers felt like an attitude where something was deserved, and it wasn't given, and an issue seemingly exists exists because it wasn't given. This is a fundamental flaw in daily life. If YOU want to like me, or hate me, or most likely feel indifference, who gives a shit? I try to never ask for anything from anyone, as in the world we truly exist in, you need to earn, survive, and try to thrive on your own. Friends and family can be wonderful gifts, curses, or absent. But the world I live in, versus the fantasy world she and many, seem to live in, are vastly different. You aren't owed anything, and no one needs to care. You receive things via work, and if people appreciate you that's a plus.
Also, for a culture born on valuing the individual, wow do we ever thrive in the desire to place ourselves and others, into fragmented clubs. Who cares what gender, race, age, etc someone is? If a person bonds first and foremost via such "defining traits" then to me, that feels entirely bigoted and narrow minded. We should look at another and ideally embrace differences, rather than look solely for similarities to bond from.
Speaking of differences, I remember wayback when, seeing this wacky Who-Dey guy on here. Going on about Munsters, jumping all over the place in many threads, having a peculiar, to me, mascot avatar, and I just scratched my head. A year or so later, I consider him a pretty genuine friend in my weekly life, despite those differences. And even despite the fact that he loves the Bengals!!! That dude is entirely different from me, and I'm happy about it, not put off at all.

Quoted from wesman:

https://backboxpinballpodcast.fireside.fm/30
I don't have an issue with her, (and I will definitely give a listen to a different episodes of her podcast to give it a chance) but like I said, never heard of her prior to today. But I definitely can say I don't care about her feeling excluded. She seems to be a member of far more clubs, have far more support, spouses, far more DM's asking about her feelings, and the adoration of Jack Danger. These are all things I don't have, and I'm not wetting a diaper, stomping my feet on the ground, and using the excuse of personal exclusion, intimating gender discrimination or any other babble because I'm not being adorned with praise.
More than this, believe in Groucho's wisdom. "I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members." Whether he said that or not, being a part of something, and being accepted solely for specific traits, conditions, and qualities, and not for your viability as an individual....is asinine.
Side note. More Groucho.

And I'll tell ya, if you don't like Groucho, you're automatically kicked outta my No Club...Club. So hit the bricks, and go kick rocks already!!!

Quoted from wesman:

For sure! And i definitely want to listen to another episode here, when work settles down a bit. She definitely filled a void in her life, as we all have, with pinball. Ideally....that should be the aspect that brings us all together, versus gender, race, etc. I've played at breweries for fun, and been at tournaments, (don't play or wish too.. I'm awful) and I've always witnessed inclusivity, expressly based on individuals or groups....loving pinball.
This is a club where everyone seems pretty widely accepted, and genuinely I've seen very mellow, or just intense folks playing at events. They come in all shapes, sizes, ages, and hang out with people different than themselves. NO person is akin directly to another person. We are all unique, Mr. Rogers fucking knew and preached that. But here, I see her using her race and gender, to actually encourage empathy, pity, and acceptance. And for me, that is entirely contrary to the concept of fairness, exceptionalism, and most of all equality.
Whether we are male, female, white, black, young, old, we all need to develop skills to encourage the fruits of our labors. Here, from this one very particular incident, I'm hearing the contrary. That because we fall into "blank column" we deserve, demand an immediate pass and invitation. And for me, again for me alone, I feel that mentality allows weakness, not strength or talent or skill to be encouraged.
Besides, from that one episode alone, I can personally say I do not need to help anyone handle and cope with their insecurities, and for me those very lengthy 12 minutes, felt more akin to a therapy session, than a fun, informative, and engaging application to join a club or warrant a listen from anyone outside her own personal friend circle.
Just my thoughts, and again, feel free to give or not give a shit. I can, and need to handle it, either way. We all do....

It's amazing how many of their gags still hold up. Make me smile almost immediately!

Quoted from Jsampel:

Jesus F’ing Christ, this whole thread is a shit show!!!

Quoted from Darscot:

she is person of color, I'm confused?!

Quoted from wesman:

I listened to a few of her other casts last night, and they're definitely not in that emotional range, far more balanced.

Quoted from Globalcop:

Or you could just stop coming here and reading what’s being posted. Unless of course the issue isn’t you not liking what’s being written here, but you not wanting other people to read what’s written here.
I agree though, it is a shame that some people decided to drag identity politics into pinball. But this thread gives me hope that there are still plenty of people who see through the fake outrage (and mental illness) called social justice.

Quoted from iceman44:

Levi does his thing with his tourney
TPN is doing their thing
Jack Danger does his thing
Kaneda, etc etc
People are free to pick and choose what they like without getting lectured by the “unwokes” or anybody else for that matter

Quoted from iceman44:

Woke” is a joke. All it really means is you ain’t sleeping and you are part of the “I take myself way too serious” club

Quoted from wesman:

Hey Chuck, apologies for assuming your intent the other day regarding the link you posted. That's on me, and my assumptions.
On account of your link, and that other fellow's post, I finally listened to the final part, the proposal Jon made on Kaneda's show yesterday in my car, and I can say I genuinely appreciate seeing people getting together via their love for a shared interest, and helping one another move past ugly transgressions, and choosing to push forward in friendship. Feels like a lesson I wish all of us humans, myself certainly included, carried with us daily. Live and let live.
Congrats to you on joining TPN, and here's hoping overall it brings more comradery than dissension. We all know we could use more of the former, and less of the latter.
Cheers!

Quoted from wesman:

Consult the magic 8 ball on that one!
Err, am I the only one that feels these podcasters might be taking themselves just a wee bit too seriously???