I'm going to add my beloved Cyclone to the list here. Simply said, when Mr. Oustler was asked about the absolutely brutal outlanes on the game, he said, "Play better."
-Chrissi

BSD and FT. I've walked up to other peoples FT and can get 250M on the first couple of games. Mine, you can play for 90 minutes and happy to break 100M

TNA is the runner up, but the hardest game is easily Star Wars. People are always attracted to the theme but give up quickly when they can barely get a flipper on the ball. Really frustrating even for experienced players...especially if you don't have it leveled...exactly...right...

Stern Star Wars , fast and furious gameplay that you can’t sleep on . Blink and it’s over .

Doctor Who for me, ...and that's from somebody that has Houdini! Those out lanes are brutal.

FT definitely. Just getting one jackpot is a big challenge. Stern JP is pretty unforgiving as well.

I can make all but one shot on Houdini consistently. Monster Bash SE shots are all over the place. Also a drain monster. LZ premium is the flow master!

Wait...Houdini is generally considered tough because it has really tight shots. But MB??? I finished that game in 3 months (I suck btw) and it's generally considered an easy game. Are you sure you have yours set up properly? That's the first time I think anybody's ever mentioned MB in a "hardest games" thread.

I have it set properly. I have it level side to side. 6.6 degrees pitch. It is hardest in MY collection to make the shots I need. I think I am above average player. When I got it NIB I had high scores. Not anymore. Not sure what is happening.

Um let me guess

Could it be the Milk can shot that is impossible?

Hurry hit the milk can-Mother Fu$#%% it can't be done!

Okay...I think I had mine set around 7 (I like my games wicked fast!). So if you're getting a lot of outlane drains, consider raising the pitch a bit and you might find it a bit easier. It's a great game.

Mostly SDTM drains. I adjusted the right side ball guide. Never have problems with hitting Drac feet. My trouble is lining up the shots on MB. I got the LZ shots down almost instantly.

How did you know?!!

Hey Beez whats your GC on your SW? Just wondering how bad the game treats you. SW is about equal to GnR SE for me. TMNT and BKSOR are harder games for me out of my small lineup. TMNT probably my hardest game but I dont really think its that hard once you got the shots down. BKSOR is without a doubt my meanest game but that just the Knight telling me basicly to F off constantly, lol!

I think I've only broken a billion twice...and just barely. My scores have since been wiped with the latest code update.

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I just picked up a Stars. Brutal.

BSD....makes you want to pull your ears off.
F14....great for dollar games. I bet people they can't keep the ball alive 60-90 seconds.

As for WOF, I bought one brand new after they were blown out by Stern for $2600. I think its a great game and there is NO WAY I ever even came close to completing the game.

Rick and Morty has been kicking me in the nuts a lot, this week.

It's been mentioned a few times in this thread but for me it's definitely my un-tweaked SW Prem - can't be bothered to pull it out of the lineup to spend a few hours tweaking it.

The inner loops send STDM 50% of the time in both directions. The Deathstar lock that releases down the fork ramps is 95% STDM. The outlanes are at factory settings of "Grand Canyon gap" and brutal AF.

This game can give you 4-5 straight plunge to drain shots while on ball save. Insane. Love the theme. Hate the inconsistency and brutality of the game.

BSD
TWD
TNA

I would also give an honorable mention to BoP. Titan rubber the whole game, leave the outline rubber off, and pitch it up to 6.5-6.8. There’s a reason we settle arguments on that machine at my house.

P.S.- Fish Tales is not hard.

I have a fast-setup DW and BSD side by side and I play BSD if I want to relax.

The Shadow but then I got my Star Wars Premium and learned what real pain was. Actually my Seawitch is pretty darn tough too.

Black Knight: Sword of Rage

By far the hardest of the 3 machines that I own.

TRON

If posts were ramps and lanes I’d rule this game..but alas they are not.

To be honest it’s not my game…only on loan with me for a while. But man oh man does the playfield layout on this beast “hand me my hat”.

My Flipper Pool, Dragon, or Jet Spin are my 3 worst drain-monsters. In the SS/AN era it would be Sorcerer or Andromeda. In DMD on it would be either Avatar, BSD, or Iron Man.

An average game of 5 ball Flipper pool is like 45 seconds of total gameplay

This beast is my is my meanest player the clearcoat on it adds to the nightmare so many ways to lose you ball. Put many quarters in this game back in the day.

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This game will kick your ass every time. The game play is so quick , and short ball times. It’s a simple game, and very addictive..dragon is brutal, but so satisfying at the same time

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My Diner is savage, it will quite literally hand your arse to you on a plate and it's not even part of the games menu.

Clive

Subhumans is an asskicker and I wouldn't have it any other way.

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