Get a few drinks in me and I'm notorious for giving a game (ahem especially a new significantly lighter stern machine) a good flick of the wrist and get that ball back. I blame having a few DE pins in the house for too long during the pandemic.

Why is this considered in poor taste?

I agree if the games are too close together. Bad for the cabinet heads.

I kind of refuse to believe that it's any worse for the cabinets than any other big save.

And yes, obviously, a no no in tournaments of competition play.

Fair enough.

I should clarify that that's exclusively a location based activity.

First time I've heard this term.

I like how many of you assume people like me enough to invite me over to play their home collections.

So again, I've yet to see a death save cause damage outside of heads banging together (which is a big no no in my book).

What damage does this cause to a game again?

A slide save is an aggressive move to one side or the other when a ball is headed for a straight down the middle drain.
A death save is when a ball goes down the right outlane and then a player nudges the ball when it hits hits the apron to bounce into the trough, bouncing the ball back into play.

It's fucking obvious why that's illegal in a tournament or league play. However I think an argument that a slide save is somehow nicer on the cabinet and its structural integrity is bullshit.

Yeah I've heard about this about this era of Stern cabinet even up to Aerosmith but I've never seen it in person. Honestly though, I still don't think that a death save is any worse on a brace than an aggressive outline shake, but maybe I'm wrong.

Sounds like you should reconsider what type of work you're getting done on the games you put out on location. I mean, if I roll up to a nice tricked out Prem/LE game or whatever, sure, I'll be a little gentler than I am normally I guess, but mostly because it's owned by some sad sack that parks their car in two spots at the grocery store so people's doors don't accidentally bump into your car.

Not here to wave my dick around here especially about something that people seem to hate, but I can pretty consistently do a one handed death save on the Stranger Things (Pro) we have on location near me that I am (for the most part) responsible for servicing and maintaining. A nicely done death save won't turn heads or cause attention like a slap save does.

Hold up, Penuche's I can get you're trying to tell me that a bunch of 8 year olds at Fundworld are death saving the shit out of a GB?

You could have taken out the visor part and the statement still would have been true.

Right right, I'm just kind of like jamming on some funny local jargon here.

Isn't it on Last Action Hero that you have to perform one in order to like "finish the game". I'll come by during waking windows in may and show you the ropes and then you can join me being the "biggest douche in the room".

According to Dry Paint, yea.

It is true, you have told me a number of times that it's cheating.

I guess something I think about a lot is how is it any more or less cheating than a big outline save?

If we're going by tournament rules, then I would assume that any extra balls you play in the world area also cheating.

My brain says that if your games are set loose enough so that you can pull off the maneuver, there's an argument for it being a fair deal. I'm clearly playing devils advocate here but it's a somewhat worthwhile discussion.