Why is it ok on location but not someone's home? That makes no sense. My collection is at my location and it is not public property. I have two machines right now that are on the floor with bent legs from two different jerks that wanted to "practice" death saving.

One is a custom powder coated game that I won't be able to match the finish on.

There is another location near me that had Metallica and a few other Stern's from that period get cabinets split during league from a few dudes that thought it was cool.

If you want to death save stay at home and fk up your own machines. Don't come to my place and do it.

How does $0.50 to a $1.00 give you the right to run the risk of damaging someone's property? If your ball drains, be a man and deal with it. It's a game, throw a few more quarters in, I'm sure most of us here are not 10 year olds with no jobs.

Here is an image I had made...

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Slide save is on tile or concrete usually. If there are no cracks in the floor and it's truly smooth, you won't hurt the game, maybe scratch the floor though. The machine will slide, moving the playfield under the ball.

Slap saves are fine. They can be loud, but won't break or bend anything.

I should reconsider my business plan because there are a small handful of inconsiderate, man children out there in the world that can not help themselves and deal with the loss of a shiney ball? What does it matter of it's an LE or a pro? And what does a car parked in two spots have to do with it? I think you are really reaching here.

I have never heard that definition of a slide save before. Not saying you are wrong, I have never looked it up. In fact if you are right, then I need to brush up my vocab! I always thought of it as sliding the machine on a smooth surface, which can be very easily done. Even on accident. My 9 year old daughter who weighs no more than 85lbs accidentally slid a new Stern Rush in the warehouse of our distributor. Not on purpose, she was just trying to keep the ball alive. She turned red with embarrassment when it happened, but managed to save and cradle the ball. I keep rubber feet on our games to prevent this.

???... As an operator I am looked down on for participating in a forum dialogue where the topic is presented as a question? What better way to bring awareness from a shared point of view. Maybe a few people will walk away from this and think differently when they walk up to someone else's machine.

Re-read my post calmly and it won't sound agitated.

The reality is, some people are savvy and can pull it off with no harm and very easily. Most people are sloppy and risk a mess, because they don't know what they are doing. I find many feel practicing on someone else's machine is better.

We had a discussion at league one night about death saves as illegal. If they are considered illegal by league and tournament standards, then how good is a high score if it was achieved after a death save. It could be like a corked bat in baseball, where there is an asterick next to it.

Sadly true... But for the record, all my games have rubber feet. It's actually what I think contributes to the damage when overly aggressive acts in side to side motion is practiced. I still have to have them for a variety of reasons though.

I genuinely laughed at that!

I said earlier some people are savvy at performing a death save. Obviously isJ can do it very cleanly according to the video. Most of the people I have seen in my establishment pick the game up off two legs when they do it or jerk the shit out of the machine. Regardless, to me, high scores are worthless at my location after a death save. We have plenty of players that can crush it while their ball is still in play. I can care less what people do in their own home or at locations that encourage it.