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What Pinside is All About

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12 years ago


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    #1 12 years ago

    Howdy everyone,

    As I am sure one or two of you are aware, I am a new pin owner (username - duh right?) and new to Pinside.

    I wanted to tell my story real quick. Long story made short, I owned LW3 in 2003, sold it, moved on and thought pinball was over. VPinMame got me hooked again, and I thought I would leave it at emulators - no need to get a REAL pinball machine. Well, got through school - both college and AF officers school - and I decided it was time to treat myself and get something I wanted from my childhood - a pinball machine! So I start asking around about machines in the Dayton area, and of course, I deal with retailers and dealers first. So I deal with a certain business out in Huber Heights trying to get a Jurassic Park, and wow, WHAT a nightmare.

    Guy charges me $2200 for a JP that has NO hex wrench, no game manual, no topper, and once I brought it home - found out there were 3-4 bulbs in the playfield completely missing, no tilt pendulum, dirty playfield, GI lights that don't work, some ball scoop lights that don't work, some TREX lights on the side that don't work, and worst of all - the TREX assembly itself sometimes picks up the ball and sometimes doesn't even try to pick up the ball (and believe me, I know when it SHOULD and when it shouldn't). Unfortunately, I was green to the hobby, and man, did he try to milk it for all it was worth.

    So I have some users here help me and come to my rescue, and I could tell Pinside was definitely a safe-haven. Talked with a couple people here, and I realized I needed to get a refund - which thank goodness - I was able to accomplish. So then I go to another retailer in Dayton with MANY promises that I will absolutely love the Getaway and JP he has. I get there, and let's start with Getaway. There are GI lights that stay on while the rest of the lights in the main circle of the playfield flash on and off (like 4 lights out of 20 or so stay on while ALL the others blink on and off). There's dust and dirt all over the playfield to where I can wipe my fingers through it and see lines in the dust where I just wiped. Most of the lights are dim and dark, indicating to me the playfield underside has not been inspected in a long time. Wrong size rubbers are installed to where the ball got STUCK in the in lanes right before the flippers. Playglass had scratches in it deep enough that they stopped my fingernail when I ran my fingernail across them. How much does he want ...? $2995.00

    So then I go to JP. Ball shoots out of the shooting lane in a very lazy manner. Left flipper is SO WEAK that I could not even get it to the one ramp the game has. There was also no topper. Price on this one: $2795.00.

    Or I could get both for $5600.00 - right ...

    So, nearly burned out, I call Snurdley here from Pinside. He tells me he's got a Johnny Mnemonic in REALLY great shape that he is ready to sell, and man, I almost feel like I stole that game from him. I drove up to his place on 31 March, and finally, finally, finally, FINALLY - F-I-N-A-L-L-Y - I had a great pin at home. And man, he included extra ramps, bulbs, tools, cleaning supplies, manual, and framed profile page of the machine - all for less than $1500. Just - man - the answer to my prayers. And we found things that needed to be addressed - mainly a couple burned out bulbs - and he didn't even hesitate to change them out. We did some very minor repairs like replacing those bulbs, and man, that got my confidence booming. He walked me through how to scroll through the test menus, and he did not leave until I was 100% comfortable with my new JM. To say the least, just a great testimony to the pinball community.

    Bottom line I wanted to get at with this thread - THIS is what Pinside is all about - people helping each other and coming to each other's rescue. I was just about ready to walk away from pinball, but Snurdley said "I don't think so..." and kept me alive and strong in the hobby. In fact, I'm already shopping for pin #2 (Jurassic Park), and I'm hoping to snag one from a couple people here. This is no new news to these people because we've already been talking about it!

    Thank you, Robin, for this community. Thank you to the honest owners and those who came to my aid, and to those that will come to help and others here and don't even know it yet. This is a great place, and I really look forward to making more friends and getting to know people here more and more. Thank you taking the time to read all of this - now GO PLAY SOME PINBALL!!!!

    I am to the left and Snurdley is to the right - this is my new JM - the #1 Bang for Your Buck Machine!!!!

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    #2 12 years ago

    Congrats on getting back into the hobby.

    #3 12 years ago

    Welcome to Pinside! I used to spend a fair amount of time in your neck of the woods.

    #4 12 years ago

    Welcome to the JM Club! You are going to love this machine -- it really gets your heart beating when you hit some consecutive loops. Your story ends well and you gained valuable knowledge in the process. Thanks for sharing your experience! Pinside rocks.

    #5 12 years ago

    Great job Snurdley!
    NPO, copy and paste this story to your profile; welcome to the Pinside!
    JM is a great pin, enjoy it!

    #6 12 years ago

    Congrats on the new pin. Glad you got your money back on JP. Keep looking, it's a great game. I just spent 4 hours today cleaning out broken pf glass out of mine. It's back up and running now.

    I spent 10 years Active Duty AF, and 12 years in Army Nat. Guard. I retired in 05, with 22 years. My oldest son went Active Duty AF last April, and is now stationed at Hill AFB, in Salt Lake City, UT Good luck in the AF, I loved my time in it.

    The Postmaster

    #7 12 years ago

    Welcome to Pinside duh_right . Info & Pin Haven . If yr lOOk-n for a certain Title, Most likely you Will Find it Here ,or it Will be found 4-You. If you Ever need anything Pin-wise , shoot me a PM .

    #8 12 years ago

    Great story! Snurdly is the man!

    #9 12 years ago

    Nice story, glad you got a nice pin for a great price and got to meet somebody who was helpful. Good to hear about happy endings.

    #10 12 years ago

    Great job Snurdley!

    Newpin, If you get to Alaska drop me a line. My pins are set to freeplay for you as long as you want. I retired last year with over 21 years AD. I got my first two pins at a NAF sale at a great price. Keep your eyes open and you might find a pin there as well.

    #11 12 years ago

    Nice story man! Good luck with the next pin

    #12 12 years ago

    Good stuff Snurdley. This is a true pinsider. NewPinOwner glad to have you on board, make sure you set the clock on your new JM, play it late at night and when the clock strikes 12 midnight get ready for a surprise that not all pins have. Have fun

    #13 12 years ago

    I grew up in Huber Heights and Dayton. I thought all the pins left in about 1996! Excellent to see that you have a fantastic game over there.

    Like Mick says, play it into the midnight hour...

    #14 12 years ago

    Great story and welcome to Pinside! Way to go Snurdley.

    #15 12 years ago

    Couldn't have said it better concerning pinside and pinsiders. Snurdley is a great example of why I too choose to be a member of this forum.

    #16 12 years ago

    Cool story. I just played JM this weekend...super fun pin.

    #17 12 years ago

    great story!

    #18 12 years ago
    Quoted from mickthepin:

    it late at night and when the clock strikes 12 midnight get ready for a surprise that not all pins have. Have fun

    Share with the rest of us.....what does it do?

    #19 12 years ago

    Welcome man! And what a score on that JM.

    #20 12 years ago

    Awesome story! I love hearing this. Seller was honest and wants to pass the pin on to a new (rebirth?) pin owner. Congratulations and enjoy. This is one addictive hobby. At least its legal!

    #21 12 years ago

    I was more than happy to help out a new pinhead and friend, thank you for all the kind words.

    I'm sure you'll be scoring a JP soon one way or another.

    #22 12 years ago

    Well played, Snurdley!

    #23 12 years ago

    Quick, somebody point out the one that's in the military.

    Sounds like everything worked out very well in the end. The hard times are there to make you appreciate the good times. Hope you stay put for a while. As an AF brat, I've moved a bunch and a pin is probably one of the more unique things that gets moved around.

    #24 12 years ago

    Congrats! Glad you were able to get a refund...I'm honestly surprised they let you. As you now know, dealing with dealers is generally a no-go. Thankfully there's a wonderful hobbiest base here and elsewhere around the internet that are all way better to deal with. I hope the JM gives you many good year...such a cool game. I'll have one someday. Tons of bang for the buck.

    Nice going Snurdley getting a new guy on the right track! I had someone do something similar for me back when I started, and without that I don't know if I'd still be in it. Great job!

    Now for a quick off topic:

    Quoted from ThePostmaster:

    Congrats on the new pin. Glad you got your money back on JP. Keep looking, it's a great game. I just spent 4 hours today cleaning out broken pf glass out of mine. It's back up and running now.
    I spent 10 years Active Duty AF, and 12 years in Army Nat. Guard. I retired in 05, with 22 years. My oldest son went Active Duty AF last April, and is now stationed at Hill AFB, in Salt Lake City, UT Good luck in the AF, I loved my time in it.
    The Postmaster

    Not to derail the thread, but a big THANK YOU to The Postmaster (and now his son) for the service to our country. Thanks for keeping us safe and free sir! Same thanks to the OP as well!

    Take care,
    Chris

    #25 12 years ago
    Quoted from Snurdley:

    I was more than happy to help out a new pinhead and friend, thank you for all the kind words.
    I'm sure you'll be scoring a JP soon one way or another.

    Hope you're getting ready to go to Indy real soon bud.....

    #26 12 years ago

    Great story! Enjoy the affliction.

    #27 12 years ago

    Congratulations and enjoy pinside.

    #28 12 years ago

    Thanks for sharing. I haven't taken my happy meds for a few days so you almost made me cry.

    No, I am actually serious!

    Better go find the wellbutrin....

    #29 12 years ago

    Welcome to the "crack"... uh, I mean pinball hobby... fellow airman (former myself)
    thanks for being here, thanks for posting, and keep us up to date...
    need any help just whistle...

    #30 12 years ago

    Love to hear stories like this! JM is a fun pin I hope you love it.

    #31 12 years ago
    Quoted from NPO:

    Hope you're getting ready to go to Indy real soon bud.....

    LOL. I told you the pinball bug was contagious!

    #32 12 years ago

    Hey everyone!! Thank you all for your kind words. I'll answer everyone soon - once I actually have a lil time. I'm interested to talk to each person here - especially saying "hey!" to active duty, former, and retired members of our armed forces. Thanks again for such a warm and inviting welcome!

    You aren't kidding about the "crack"....I'm driving to Indy this weekend to pick up a Jurassic Park....!!!!!! Pics and a story once it is home next to JM! That's another BFYB machine!!! Whoo hoo !!!

    #33 12 years ago

    Good story! I kind of felt the same way when I bought my first machine (The Simpsons Pinball Party). The retail places all wanted $4,500+ for machines that were off route - meaning they used to be in an arcade, laundry mat, bowling alley or wherever people put machines (I see zero around where I live). I ended up buying one out of a failed TGI Friday's near ATL for $2,800. It had a few broken switches and a bunch of lights out, but the price seemed too good to be true because I had become accustomed to the store pricing.

    Unless you are looking for a new in box (NIB) machine, I wouldn't even bother looking at the stores. Odds are you'll get a better machine at 40-60% of the retail price from another individual. And you'll probably make a new friend along the way. Thanks for sharing and I'm glad (and surprised) that you got a refund.

    Oh, and since everybody else did it... US ARMY 1996-2003. Airborne!

    #34 12 years ago

    Welcome. Great story.

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