OK, glad it isnt just me. hope they fix it. not sure which stat is right.

Yes, I am seeing this too.

Same here, I believe the quick stat on daily plays is the correct one.

Luckily my system 3s don’t have that issue

Sad that Shaq and Hollywood Heat continually out earn Fish Tales... what is wrong with my players?

ha ha. that's crazy. no pinheads playing there obviously.

I picked up a buck hunter reloaded. It's out earned every single pin Ive ever had. Highly recommend getting one if you have a route location. Absolutely kills it.

Anyone know how to set a stern SAM game (Rollercoaster Tycoon) on location to $1 a play? When I scroll through standard adjustments menu, the only US pricing options are 50c a play or similar. Has to be an easy way to have it $1. Thanks!

First problem is it's before SAM. It's Whitestar.

No idea on $1 play.

LTG : )

There is setting in the menu to build custom pricing. I won’t lie….it’s an absolute pain in the ass.

I had to redo a sopranos over the summer and set it at 1-$1 7-$5 and I honestly couldn’t tell you exactly how it’s done.

Doing a flat $1 and not doing a price break will be easier for you, that’s for sure.

If you’ve muddled though setting up SAM custom pricing, whitestar will give you that extra challenge and then some.

Ahhh, yes, white star indeed. At least I know it can be done. Challenge accepted. Thanks guys!

Hey guys! New to routing and have some games at one location!

My best earner and lowest maintenance game so far is my Data East Simpsons.
This is usually followed by spiderman or southpark earning wise!

I'm pretty new to repairs and such, are there any other decent theme games that are relatively simple to upkeep? I had a doctor who that I ended up selling because I feared the mini playfield going down.

Acdc, fish tales and South Park

I'll look into them! Thank you. South park I've had for a month and it's been killing it. I'll try saving up for an ACDC or fish tales. I passed on a fish tales because I heard of a router having insane issues with the multiball water wheel. But all games will eventually have problems!

Looking forward to hearing how this deluge of new titles does in a commercial setting.

Operators who buy NIB: what is your risk tolerance for younger companies?
Are there companies you won't purchase for routes?
Are any operators NOT buying current Stern games and focusing on other companies?

Interesting post.

First the title of this thread what pins are earning well right now. What earns in one location might not in another. Even in the same town or even right across the street.

Back to me. In the video game fad days, I stayed away from new companies. You didn't know if they'd be around later for help or parts.

I'm not buying NIB right now. I did in the past. And may again in the future. Just don't have that income level going on. Not doing tech support for jjp anymore, those jjp games at some point might be traded or sold. Fact in point I traded my jjp POTC for a GF CE, and Hobbit isn't going anywhere.

I don't have any current Stern Spike 1 or Spike 2 games. I'm a little concerned with the reported node board issues here, not covered under warranty, and not always available. Though I'd probably risk it if a Godzilla premium deal came along.

And I am glad I am still with CGC. For my arcade, I know they are the wave of the future. Tech support is light and they make a quality product.

LTG : )

Totally agree. But not being able to get pins out the door is really hampering their penetration...Cactus Canyon LE delays are ridiculous.

And I believe they are working hard on that issue.

That is why.

They want better too. Won't happen over night. I believe it will.

LTG : )

Under custom pricing I typically set “left coin” to 1 pulse, “center coin” to 4 pulses, “right coin” to 1 pulse and “pulse:credit” to 4. This works on all my machines. Good luck!

Do you have the same reservations about the SAM titles?

No. TWD pro here and AC/DC Luci vault here.

LTG : )

Will try this tomorrow. Many thank for that response!

Top Earners for Silverball Subs in Asheville NC :

Star Wars Pro Comic (1/1 2/3)
Stranger Things Pro (1/1 2/3)
Last Action Hero (.50/1)
Iron Maiden (1/1 2/3)

The only two Americans I've seen on location (one Houdini, one Hot Wheels) both had very weak and mushy flippers. Hot Wheels also had dead RPM targets and lights - seemed like a node board was out (if American uses those.) No idea if these were outliers or typical.

You need to have active cooling for the flippers on AP machines. They're using PROC3 and the coils get hot pretty quickly. Once they're cooled, they're fine. Of course, this doesn't help you on location, but that's the answer.

Stranger things Pro is punching far above its weight class at a brewery with 12 pins with a few premiums mixed in (GZ, LZ, SW, Alien LE). 007 is not doing well after its initial new car smell wore off.

100% worked. Very much appreciated!

STH pro is the best performing game we have ever seen. Bond is staying decent with casuals but dropped off a cliff on plays with serious players because the code is a complete joke at this time.

I don't blame them either, Bond went on route in November and hasn't improved since. It will be hard to win back players at this point with that game.

I think the physical layout there probably matters some. Stranger Things is right up front as the first thing people see when they walk in (and also right next to the change machine.) Bond is kinda buried on the far side where it gets less attention.

I also venture a guess in general that Stern's choice of translite graphics was really dumb. "Dr. NO" in a gadzillion-point font isn't going to excite anyone about a sixty-year old movie. They really should have used the 60th anniversary translite for the wider distribution of the Pro, or at least something cool and classy and metallic that actually says James Bond or 007.

Deadpool, Metallica, Cactus Canyon

Just got scooby this week will be interesting to see how it does

Id reccomend Deadpool to any route owner.

Stockpile 1000 pinball machines? I don't really know too much about their operation but I assume they really can't go more than a few days without shipping without running out of space. Or why they would want to. Would also be a mess with the logistics company.

My understanding is they sent a small amount to dealers to place in their show rooms. There are some distributors that also have a location and that's what we are seeing. I think?

The first batch of operator pros are suppose to ship out in the next week-10 days I believe.

Running the bulk of the Pros after the LEs and the Premiums means their higher markup games ship first, encouraging people to pay more to get it sooner is the answer to that I'm sure.

I try and route everything for variety because there are sterns everywhere. They and CGC make the best low maintenance games on the market.

My experience is pinball bros is absolute garbage. My alien was a total piece and the code still isn't updated to the point where it won't lock up on location. I would advise against anyone routing it.

Spooky quality is a little better if you get a working game. They will provide tech support and send you parts but they have little to no documentation and their games look like they were just slapped together in a garage.
I've really tried to support them but they can be frustrating with lack of documentation and no decent source for replacement parts. I have a Rick and Morty and Halloween that have been rock solid and a TNA CE that has been nothing but a headache.

Houdini is the only AP game I've owned and it was rock solid other than the flippers would mush out because the power supply was under sized for the game and when the magnets would go it would drop the flippers but it was rare. I would definitely buy and route an AP game again.

I love to route stuff that other people won't and will continue to do so as long as it makes sense.

It builds the hype. Stern is edging us.

I think a big number of games are going to Texas Pinball Festival, and seems like every disto might have gotten 1 to do whatever with.
Just a guess

Home Pros FIVE MONTHS after the Prems and LEs instead of right after is Stern's new play, debuted with Bond to encourage home users to buy a Prem or LE so they don't have to wait 5 months or more for their Pro. Putting a huge gap AFTER the LE/Prem run before running the home pros is new. Naked money grab to push home users into the much more profitable Prem and LE tier. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pros eventually become location only and they just stop making them direct for home. It's the slimmest profit margin by a LOT now that the Prem and LE margins have been fattened.

Talked to my dad and he said Back in 2007 when we operated machines at a campground in Hope, the most popular were rescue 911, fish tales and cactus jacks. Kids loved Cactus jacks and would always yell “FOOOD FIGHTT!!!” When they got the cactus figures dancing

I would be surprised if that happened. Difficult to implement, unpopular, short-sighted since a lot of relatively casual types are buying pins for home use now and they're more price-sensitive.

Well godfather is a complete dud so far. Everyone walks past it on their way to foo. Anyone having better luck with GF?

My popeye is kicking the snot out of all my other pins except monster bash

Well godfather is a complete dud so far. Everyone walks past it on their way to foo. Anyone having better luck with GF?</blockquote

Yes, I was pleased with the first week's earnings on GF. Each location is different, YMMV. FF has been doing well, too.

Time to move it to another location. Sounds like it's just not vibing with that location's crowd.

I'm trying to get more dollar bill acceptors on my pins. I had a 12v DBA that worked on Dialed In but I can't get it to work on GnR. Also, I'm curious what people use for WPC games, R&M and TNA. I've figured out Stern Spike and Sam systems.

MEI/Mars 110/120v bill acceptor with a 300 bill stacker. $1 ones that aren't reprogrammable are cheap ($100-$125 used) and fine, but if you spring for the ones that are reprogrammable and can take $1,$5,$10,$20 you can make $5 an option and you'll be surprised how many $5s you'll find in the mix when you collect. 12v acceptors are the most expensive because you rarely see them used for cheap.