A tight fit, but restoration pins anyway
-IJ, the best game Williams ever put out. That's a nice example, where did you snatch that one up at?
That pin is a blast to play, definitely a "if I had one more ball" type of game. I just don't understand the high price for a single level, no ramp "old" style layout. It is SUPER fun though, so I guess that's why. I'd love to have one
Quoted from Whysnow:
It has WAY more in it than any uncoded, ghosting insert, splitting cabinent, pealing decal game with ramps.
I dont understand high price on those incomplete games with stripped down parts, no fully controllable light show, with no custom music or speech; it cant be just because they have ramps?
In all seriousness >>>
Go count the coils on TNA, then count the number of fully programmable lights in the lights show, then realize it shipped code complete and is on the 3rd update since the first one shipped, then realize it has custom art, music, and callouts, then realize it has lazer etched trim, then realize it has number displays and a LCD, then realize it has a real and great quality backglass, then realize it has a new pf which appears super solid, then realize it has 2 real service rails, then realize it has a sub chamber box built into the game, then realize the brain running the game is P-roc which is a super solid and time tested boardset that is serviceable for decades to come, and I think you get the point They did not strip down this game. They built it fully featured and rockin solid!
Toss it all together that this is built by a small startup company that does not garner the scale of production savings that larger companies do.
I honestly am amazed they can sell it for 5995 when the large scale competition is pumping out 50 games per day on a stripped down pro model for 5100+ ! This comes not as a fan of the game, but someone that has been under the hood and is operating the game on route. I also have been under the hood on the competition and TNA is in another league.
Quoted from RustyLizard:
I can tell you that I got my money's worth without a doubt. But i don't need a pinball machine that tells me a 45 minute story and gently feeds the ball back to the flippers with $125 worth of recycled soda bottles on each side. If Stern builds a game with the features and fun contained in this game then I will buy a NIB from them someday too.
I can't say I disagree with either of you. I played this pin at the pinball life party and absolutely loved it. All new pins are expensive though and I ask myself the same question every time I buy one "why did I just buy this overpriced item". The difference with this pin for me is the operating stand point. Although super fun, to the novice or casual pinball player, this pin sitting next to another modern machine looks old in comparison. With that said, the newer machine is most likely to take the attention of the patron. Also, the ball time on this machine is not like the newer pins (I love the TNA rule set) so a casual player might play it and walk because they can't keep the ball in play. I could be wrong. I'd like to buy one for one of my locations, I was told today it would be March 2018 before I could take delivery.
Quoted from Micky:
Wow that was fast.
What are your thoughts so far?
Code is good right out the gate, I like it a lot, has a few surprises while playing it at first. Some of the sounds and speed of ball returns to the flippers remind me of TNA. I had a switch issue in a coin mech mount and no rubber was installed on the posts at the top of the inlanes, other than that it plays really nice and smooth. The skill shot is weak, if you select the far left shot and figure out the plung, it seems to be the easiest shot to make. I think they need to make the skill shots one time selection per game, per player. The cab is solid with the new bracing and the play field supports are nice.
Two new pins in the line up. I put some pin stadium lights in Munsters, what a difference!
Got this one yesterday, original cab art, PF has been clear coated and chrome added.
Quoted from northerndude:
Tell me about them drink holders?
They are home built out of oak and 3/4 black pipe. I don’t remember the cost but I think I have around 20-25 bucks in each of them. I built 25 at once, used a router, hole saw, miter saw, glue, and screws. The black pipe is available in precut lengths but it’s cheaper if you buy the whole stick and have them cut and thread it at the store.
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