Now that was a great find!
Picked this up this beauty today and bringing it home today. I can't wait to fully restore it, including a Jon wick playfield and backglass.
Quoted from Ballypin:
What do you do when a cheap game comes up on local CL even though you already have that title?? Duh !! Yes, I have a problem.
You take any parts off the 2nd machine that are better than the 1st and swap them out making your 1st game better. Then you sell/trade the 2nd lower quality game.
There were 480 produced, and yes they are very hard to find. I played one at Allentown this year and it has a great rule set. There is a bonus feature where you try to complete poker hand in the head display with the flippers. Kind of like the bagatelle in the head of a Catacomb.
Quoted from Ballypin:
What has become my obligatory truck pictures from my purchase this morning. Fireball is one of my grail games and I was fortunate to find it 25 minutes from my house from a local Pinsider.
ballypin Congratulations on finding one of your grail pins. It looks really nice. I hope that you are able to recover from your long journey!
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:
This '64 Hayride, has received some outstanding work from Fellow Villagers in Florida....
...Now finding its way home here....Always wanted an add a ball, and I played this on Rockaway Beach in 65 or 66.
That is one beautiful EM. The playfield looks like it just came out of the box. Congratulations!
Quoted from Mfsrc791:
Gottlieb royal flush deluxe!!!! Cost 100 bucks but needs a few new boards. And definitely some rubbers!!!!
Any idea what these go for? Can only find prices on the em version of the game.
The finished ads on Pinside show that it was listed by two different sellers at $600 each, but both sellers sold their pins elsewhere. This is one of the Gottlieb 80 pins with their grounding problems, but still doesn't come up for sale very often. I'd say fix it, including adding grounding mods, and try to sell it for $800.
I apologize for interrupting this fascinating thread about pinsider relations, but I picked up two great pins from the same seller yesterday.
Light project Funhouse - player condition.
Working Spectrum. Almost perfect backglass. Playfield has one very small spot of wear. Cabinet artwork is really almost perfect, will need minor touchups.
Just brought this home today. It’s a light project that I found at a garage sale half a mile from my house.
Quoted from TopMoose:
You used to call me on my cell phone.
Late night when you need... my... love...
PRO TIP: if you search for games on Craigslist, click on the ads for games you don't want or that don't have photos. I clicked on an ad with no photos for a late-80's Gottlieb I had no interest in buying. At the bottom, as an afterthought, it basically said "BTW, I'm also taking offers on this fishing-themed EM pin."
It needs a lot of work but that backglass is a few tiny specks away from perfection. Easily worth half what I paid.
Here’s another tip: When responding to and add/word of mouth referral, etc. ask if they have any more games that they might want to sell. I was going to buy a Funhouse from the seller. After I asked if he had anything else for sale, he offered to sell me his Spectrum and seven dedicated arcades, all at great prices.
Quoted from ForceFlow:
Yeah, the rust & corrosion was mainly limited to the hardware on the front of the cabinet (coin door, lockbar, lockbar receiver, shooter rod/plate, playfield hooks, apron, metal covers for leg bolt anchors, knocker).
Pretty much everything else was fine.
The underside of that playfield looks great!
Quoted from Pecos:
PM sent! Thanks ZNET!
You can't tell very well from the pic but the backglass is toast. I'm not complaining though. The rest of the machine is in good shape - everything but the playfield glass. The seller's neighbor broke the playfield glass this very morning. OOPS!
This is my first woodrail, and probably my last, so I am just learning about these. The playfield glass and backglass are thicker that what I am used to. Question - can I put a standard 70s playfield glass in a woodrail? I'm seriously considering putting some mylar on both sides of the cracked area and using it as is. It is only in a small portion of the right upper corner and I really like the thickness.
Thanks Ryan! Playfield and pop bumper caps are exceptional for a pin 65 years old. I am very happy to get this Queen of Hearts and am looking forward to restoring it. I'm sure that lots of surprises await me!
pecos If you need any wood rail parts let too-many-pins know as he said that he has a lot of parts
Quoted from animesuperj:
Snagged a Gottlieb Dimension on craigslist today for $50. A friend of mine picked it up for me and is holding it until I can make the 2 and half hour trip up north to Green Bay. One major downside is it's missing the head - so might search around for a bit for a head that'd work in place and a backglass. It's a fun game, and fairly uncommon/rare; so possibly worth the effort in fixing or building what's missing.
too-many-pins Skip, do you have a head that is appropriate for this age of pin?
Quoted from animesuperj:
My friend locally who used to own a Dimension said I should be able to use any gottlieb wedgehead, so will keep an eye out for a donor. Also a backglass, which hopefully isn't too hard. There was one in NY recently for $125 in average looking shape. Just said they won't ship.
Check with Mayfair Amusements to see if they have a nos copy.
Check with Shay Arcade Group to see if they might have one or if they will consider making this glass.
Ask Pinsider too-many-pins if he has one
Quoted from Colsond3:
Nice...I'll take it when you're done with it. My daughter has an odd infatuation with her stuffed cheetahs of every size. Or maybe just an infatuation with taking advantage of me...every time she wants something and I say no, she comes back with "but it's for my cheetahs" haha
colsond3 Get your daughter a stuffed mascot for the Patriots. They’re cheetahs too...
Quoted from robreagan:
Sorry for the late response RWH. The boards are all in great shape. The play field has some wear but not horrible for its age. I’ve got everything working now and looking forward to playing some Barracora! I’ve heard some good things about this one.
That's a really nice playfield for this title. These playfields are usually really torn up.
I picked up this Paragon project last weekend for $100. Cons: Backglass completely flacked away, missing the MPU and solenoid driver boards, rusty legs, and unknown if the displays work, and the back panel of the backbox will need to be replaced. Pros: $100!, nice condition cabinet, coin door and one of the nicest Paragon playfields that I have seen, short of a restoration.
Thanks to smart_bomb posting about this on this site. Seller originally wanted $1,100, dropped to $500, and smart_bomb negotiated the price down to $50 after seeing it in person. He passed on buying it, but posted on this site about it. By the time that I contacted the owner he raised the price to $100, but still a great price. I wanted to find a Paragon project and completely restore it this year, and this was a great start to my New Year!
Quoted from AUKraut:
Awesome pickup bluespin....can't believe I didn't see this one myself!
This was for sale on Facebook and then EBay at a high price, then the seller lowered it to $500, then smart bomb looked at it in person and posted this thread https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/paragon-non-working-should-i-scoop-it-up.
Quoted from Skyemont:
I picked this up. Needs TLC. Not a find like most of you but it's something.
Assuming that the playfield is toast like most copies of this title, you can order a Hardtop playfield solution. Space Shuttle is already in stock. You can find the link to the sale site through this forum:
You can order a stencil kit here:
Quoted from djreddog:
I’ll be bringing this home tomorrow. It will become my second EM in my current collection and 4th EM that I have ever owned. My Conquest 200 will never leave my collection, it’s that good.
Great pickup!. That's a really fun game to play and the playfield looks to be in great shape.
Quoted from Pecos:
I shouldn't have - really, really shouldn't have, but the price was right and I am a sucker for these late 70s Williams EMs. Big Deal is one of the few Williams EMs to have banks of drop targets.
Thanks to jwwhite15, I have a used apron that I can put on Big Deal. It's not white, but it looks a lot better than this one! This Project Pin is going to need a lot of TLC!
This is a fun game that I played in league. Great rule set, but getting the ball through the horseshoe to collect the extra ball is difficult.
Quoted from bbhenry2000:
What or rather who is PPS?
Follow this forum to find updates on Hardtop playfields for Firepower.
Backglass for sale for $75 here:
This Pinsider (freeplay40) is reproducing all three ramps, in case you need to repalce any:
Quoted from jaytrem:
Welcome to the Comet club! I'm currently fixing one up also, going with the hardtop install.
BertoDRINK1 is trying to get bgresto to make some backglass reproductions. Apparently he needs one to scan, don't know if there was any progress. Mine isn't bad at all, but would probably buy a repro anyway.
jaytrem Another option is Shay Arcade Group. He adds new backglasses to his offering occasionally and he uses the same manufacturing process that the glasses were originally made with. If I see him at Pinfest today I will suggest adding Comet to his offering.
Quoted from V_piscopo:
Finally got a chance to work on the project I've been dying to get to...,..maybe the nicest EM playfield I have ever seen. Sat in the same camp (near water) since 1977. Jones plugs and leafs have corrosion, but I think it will clean up nice. Now if only I can sorce a BG that does it justice...,.,..,.?
Try Mayfair Amusements to see if they have a nos copy. If they don't have one you can order a repro from bgresto.
Quoted from bloodonthepins:
Brought my first pin home this weekend! Kind of crazy to be able to play some pinball at home. Loving Sky Jump. Thinking of doing a paint job on the cabinet at some point, but for now, let's play!
Soon you’ll realize that it’s crazy to just have one pin at home when you can have so many more! Great choice on your first pin. When you get ready to restencil your cabinet make sure to use Pinball Pimp stencils.
Indoor flea market vendor advertised on Facebook Wednesday, working but unshopped. Two flea market vendors asked about it within an hour. I offered a non-refundable $200 Paypal Friends and family deposit via pm and provided a reference of another collector whom he had known for years. I bought the game at the beginning of set up on Thursday.
The other BSD was more expensive, didn’t work and didn’t have a translite.
I bought this from a collector in NY. This Paragon and Haunted House were childhood favorites. I already have a Paragon project ready to restore. The Black Hole has a heavily flaking inner backglass but Shay Arcade Group will start making them soon.
Quoted from weaverj:
playfield and cab look nice, unless i'm missing something.
That’s what I’ve been looking for for a long time, nice playfield and cab at a good price. The seller even delivered it to a Fastenal store and palletized it for me. He hasn’t worked on his pins in two years and wanted to sell it to someone who would appreciate it and restore it
Quoted from mark532011:
is that a phone on the right side of the playfield?
That's part of the game mechanic "dialed in." You hit the center moving target (see the figure with the lightning bolts) and that charges your phone. When your phone is charged you get a call about a problem (a new mode). Finish the mode, recharge the phone again, finish mode#2, rinse and repeat. Other modes in the game through the left tunnel shot as well.
Quoted from snyper2099:
Keeping the Stern vibes alive...
I played this one at a tournament a few months ago, and then I picked a project Nugent up recently. The shot for the bonus multiplier is really tight and reminds me of Trident. Did you take off the plastics and backglass, or were they not there when you bought the game?
Quoted from snyper2099:
The BG is missing. The plastics were included and I just removed them to clean them.
I am still uncertain about buying the reporo BG/trans. that is available. Any thoughts on that?
Game looks HUO and has never been shopped but it sat in storage untouched for 20 years.
I like the game and I believe it is an under appreciated early Stern because it is so hard to find a decent example of it.
I have a lead on an original backglass, just waiting on better pictures. If I pass on it I will forward you the lead. I think a lot of people removed the backglasses and framed them to keep as wall art as I have seen multiple copies of this pin with no backglass. BGresto does excellent work. You can either search for a long time for a nos backglass or buy a repro from BGresto. I'll send you a pm with some places to search for the backglass.
Quoted from GreenMario:
Fortunately I do! And I think the girlfriend is coming around to the idea! If any machines in the Detroit area need a home let me know!
greenmario Welcome to the hobby/addiction. We post a lot of project pins in the below forum. If you are interested in learning how to fix project pins, favorite this thread.
Quoted from bkfiv:
I was the first responder on Craigslist <for once> & the nice seller held it for me even though he was getting offers above asking price. I'm excited to set it up later without paying the markup the flipper blockheads would have charged. It needs a wipe down & rubbers but it's in really great shape! I'm excited to add a classic Stern to the lineup.
Trident is a fun game. Congratulations!
Quoted from Ballypin:
This title has never been on my list but it was on my way home from a 12 hour road trip, the price was right, playfield has no wear or planking and will clean up nice, backglass has a little flaking (unusual for Bally’s of this vintage) and a near perfect coin door. Added bonus is that it came from Kentucky and meter shows 14,699 plays. Owner says it hadn’t been played in nearly 20 years. And yes, it did come with legs.
Nice pickup. That's really clean inside and out.
Bringing this home tonight, a long 10 hour round trip for a project. Turns on but only two beeps on the mpu. Backglass is Shot, and the playfield has a few wear spots in areas of solid color so it’ll be easy to touch up. Best part of the deal was I bought it for the cost of an Alltek mpu
Quoted from Captive_Ball:
Sometimes its good when non-pinheads know you own pinball machines. Got a text that my neighbors. They were cleaning out the rec room at their church..."do you want this pinball machine? Its free." It doesn't currently work, but the playfield is in pretty good shape.
Anyone know where I can score a backglass for a 1975 Williams Little Chief?
I have some leads. Pm sent
Quoted from nascarrey:
Still the best thread on Pinside!!
nascarrey You forgot to provide the link.....I’ll take care of that for you
I’m on my way home with this one, my grail pin. I spent six months networking to find this, and I’ll have driven 1,400 miles round trip this weekend. Any guesses as to the title?
Quoted from ibuypinballs:
John, I would say Quick Silver my man! Congrats!!! Now find me a Star Gazer.
Pete you are correct, it is a Quicksilver. The playfield is heavily worn, but I received a quote for a restoration, and the total price was still a great price in my opinion. Best news is that the game is working 100% except one display has missing segments. That’s an easy fix. Backglass only had two very small
Here are more pics so that I will be in compliance with the new forum policies
Quoted from Playdium:
This Game Plan Super Nova followed me home. What is recommended for initial cleaning for this play field?
Older playfields, early dmds (pre diamond coat) and all early ss and EMs are succeptable to water damage, leading to planking. Novus contains water, but naphtha does not contain water. You can buy naphtha at any home improvement store in the paint aisle.
Naphtha will not damage your playfield, but chemically it’s similar to lighter fluid so don’t smoke around it’s use. It’s safe to use indoors but wear gloves and make sure there is some air circulation like a fan. After cleaning the playfield don’t put the playfield glass back on for an hour so the naphtha can air out
Quoted from Colsond3:
Yeah, we’ve all been there. Haha. Sometimes I even pull over on the side of the road to wedge something in there because halfway into the drive I get sick of it flapping open and pushing it shut again.
I drove 300 miles with a coin door flapping open and shut inside my suv. I bought some 7/8” locks and placed them inside my toolbox. It’ll take less than a minute to install a new coin door lock and then I won’t have to listen to it flap open and shut all the way home after buying my next pin
A year ago a friend in Nashville bought a Frontier, a wishlist game for me, in my area of GA. Today I travelled to Nashville and bought this. Sellers phone blew up with multiple offers to pay way more than his asking price, but said that he already promised it to me so he’d hold it for me. This rarely happens these days.
While talking to the seller and his wife it turns out that they grew up a few miles from me in California, and went to my rival high school. Go Monsoons beat the Bucs! Really nice couple.
Quoted from jmountjoy111:
So you got it for the incredibly low asking price? I was number two in line I believe
They were asking a rediculously low price, so I offered more than twice asking price without knowing anything about the competition. I was the first person to contact them and several people after me offered to buy it at the asking price. He agreed Sunday to sell it to me and offered to hold it until today, six days later. Someone offered much much more than I offered and he turned him down because he already agreed to sell it to me.
Rocky and Bullwinkle have been captured! Great game flow but the mystery bonus is why it isn’t used in tournaments. Definately player condition cabinet but the backglass and playfield look amazing
My first Firepower. Beautiful playfield with almost no wear and a nice cabinet. Backglass is a little rough but it was a great price.
Quoted from Vreuls:
Early production white popbumper eight ball deluxe
Not the best playfield,maybe i will install a playfield overlay
I would wait for a hardtop.
I picked up this game that’s been on my short list for a year now. I had an opportunity to buy this title six months ago but; it was $600 more than the price I paid today, it was 380 miles one way, and the playfield and cabinet were not as nice as today’s pickup. Today’s pick up was 27 miles away. One pop bumper doesn’t work, but otherwise appears to be 100% working.
It pays to be patient and wait for the right opportunity.
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:
Nice Alien Star! I love mine and would never think of selling it.
Mirco made mention of doing a small run of Alien Star play fields if you're interested.
Thanks. My playfield is really nice except small wear areas near the kickout hole, left flipper and one of the gates, plus a large wear area near one of the pops. I’ll probably touch up the artwork and clear the playfield.
Quoted from Nyraiderfan:
Looks great, I have an opportunity locally for PF and am trying to convince my self, problem is I bought 3 machines in December and will be difficult to convince the wife I need a 4th in 5 weeks.....
Tell her you’re just holding the new pin for a friend until he can find a larger house, apartment, etc
Quoted from yzfguy:
Cool! What is the
deal with those clear windows in the backglass?
yzfguy The goal is to complete the set of diamonds by hitting the card in the center. They rotate on a wheel and are called a roto target. As you score each letter it drops in the window from above. Just like a Bank a ball pinball
Quoted from TractorDoc:
Does part of a machine(s) count?
There was one playfield in particular that made me go look at the rest. . .
All of the playfields are nothing more than parts donors. I've always thought I'd like to own a Time Fantasy one day -- this one will have to do even if just as art on the wall.
Looks a bit better after cleaning off years of dust.
Find another system 7 pin, get it working 100%, then add the Time Fantasy game roms, backglass, repaint the cabinet, buy ir make playfield plastics, touch up and clear the playfield. This assumes that you have a complete playfield wiring harness and can get another Pinsider to trace their TF lamp board so that you can build your own.
cheddar weren’t you converting another pin to a Time Fantasy?
Quoted from Colsond3:
You could also be talking about the second best forum on Pinside
I’m bringing this Robo War home tonight. I called the estate seller and she agreed to hold it for me so that I could drive down 400 miles from Atlanta. Of course many people tried to buy it out from under me, but she kept her word and sold it to the first caller (me). Game plays well but the playfield is dirty with no wear. Factory Mylar still on the field. Only issue is that the displays are out.
At least two people offered to pay more than her $600 asking price. People that are doing this are usually creating auctions, driving the prices up for all collectors. If you didn’t get the pin, just move on. No need to hurt your fellow collectors pocketbooks.
Quoted from northerndude:
Cabinet looks fantastic
Overall it looks good, but someone touched up the paint on the front of the cabinet with I assume red testors model paint or fingernail polish as it’s on thick and I can see brush strokes. From five feet away it looks great.
If I can get the displays working and the game shopped prior to our local SFGE show I’ll try to bring it to share
Quoted from Colsond3:
I’m in LA, technically Castaic in the valley through the end of the week. Anybody need help grabbing a game?
I need to get my pinball fix while I’m out here if anybody wants some company. Or if anybody has any suggestions where to play.
If not, I fear I may end up posting in here when I bring a game back to my sister’s house that they can keep just so I can play a little.
Colson you have to get to Ayce Gogi in LA. They have great korean BBQ (cook it yourself at your table), and lots of pins.
Quoted from hazmat7719:
The cabinet has been re-painted and there is one broken plastic.
If they used latex paint you should be able to remove the outer paint, with little damage to the original paint. Buy something at your local home improvement store to remove latex paint, and try it around the back of the cabinet. That way if it doesn't turn out well, no one will see it.
If you rent a 6x8 trailer from uhaul bring a tape measure to measure the inside width of the trailer. They have two interior sizes that are very close to each other; the larger one can fit two pins wide for a total of six (?) pins on their backs folded up. The other only holds one pin wide and three deep for a total of three pins. A uhaul employee told me that they originally listed the two trailers seperately on their site but combined them into one listing
Quoted from pinostalgia:
Any progress on the robowar bluespin?I'm so jealous.
It turns out that the connector to the display was loose. It’s working 100% now. The previous owners, a nice retired couple, put up a six million high score, and 2nd-4th places were in the five millions. Ugh. Now I have to work off their initials!
Quoted from o-din:
There have been a couple beaters around here, but I would rather wait until I could find one in comparable condition to yours.
In my experience, Williams is the king of multiplayer short flipper EMs because of their competitive nature and close scoring between players, and this one is highly touted as one of the best ones due to it's ball to ball memory, similar to Pit Stop which has always been one of my top games.
i'm in no hurry though, one will pop up eventually. Again, congrats!
o-din There's one coming up for sale at an estate sale near me. I'll pm you the link. If you can work out a deal with the seller, I can pick it up and store it for a few days until NAVL picks it up.
It’s been a long time since I could post in this forum. Can anyone identify this “wide” body pin. I fit a wide body pin, one unpopulated playfield and seven populated playfields in my Toyota Highlander. When I get home I’ll start a How much pinball related stuff can you fit inside your pin hauler forum.
robertmee is a great seller
Quoted from egyptrus:
Well, it’s been a while since I’ve posted in this thread. I really haven’t been buying or selling all that much. However this one came up and I figured why not? Unfortunately, it didn’t have the door handle launcher so I’ll be on the lookout for that (or a reasonable substitute as I know the originals are unobtanium).[quoted image]
Hopefully you or a friend can pick up a door handle launcher from one of the parts vendors at Expo this weekend.