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What is your favorite Gottlieb System 80B title

By JodyG

1 year ago


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    “What is the best Gottlib System 80b game?”

    • Chicago Cubs Triple Play 2 votes
      2%
    • Bounty Hunter 3 votes
      3%
    • Tag Team 2 votes
      2%
    • Rock/Rock Encore 0 votes
    • Raven 2 votes
      2%
    • Hollywood Heat 2 votes
      2%
    • Genesis 18 votes
      20%
    • Gold Wings 6 votes
      7%
    • Spring Break 2 votes
      2%
    • Monte Carlo 3 votes
      3%
    • Arena 1 vote
      1%
    • Victory 3 votes
      3%
    • Diamond Lady 2 votes
      2%
    • TX Sector 19 votes
      21%
    • Robo War 12 votes
      13%
    • Excalibur 1 vote
      1%
    • Bad Girls 4 votes
      4%
    • Big House 2 votes
      2%
    • Hot Shots 1 vote
      1%
    • Bone Busters inc. 7 votes
      8%

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    #1 1 year ago

    For all of the edge-lords out there who say System 80b games are garbage, move along. For the rest of you that find some charm in cheesy knock-off 80's themes, what do you think Gottlieb's best System 80B game is? I wish we could pick 3 games and do ranked voting, because it is rather hard for me to decide which one wins.

    #2 1 year ago

    Hot Shots. For the sound effects and music. Also, for trying to get 10 free games by hitting all the drop targets on one side of the pop bumper without knocking down any on the other side.

    #3 1 year ago

    Genesis, Bounty Hunter and Gold Wings likely 3rd. Granted most of these games I have yet to see in person.

    Raven, Arena, Rock, and Big House are the only others I had played.

    #4 1 year ago
    Quoted from PinballManiac40:

    Granted most of these games I have yet to see in person.

    I wonder how many people have played all of them. I haven't played Chicago Cubs, Spring Break or Diamond Lady, but I still threw down a vote for Genesis. I'll be playing a really nice Spring Break, if there is such a thing, pretty soon. Same with Diamond Lady.

    Even though it has no votes right now, can we assume that TX Sector will walk away with this title? It's definitely somewhere near the top for me, along with Robo-War. Honorable mention to Big House and Bad Girls (other than the stupid pop bumper jackpot).

    #5 1 year ago
    Quoted from stevevt:

    Even though it has no votes right now, can we assume that TX Sector will walk away with this title?

    No assumptions. I had never seen one and likely many others have not.

    #6 1 year ago
    Quoted from PinballManiac40:

    No assumptions. I had never seen one and likely many others have not.

    It's one of the more popular titles from this list among both collectors and tournament players.

    Maybe I'm crazy anyway, because Monte Carlo had the highest production of all of these at 4315. Did most of them go to Europe?

    https://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?searchtype=advanced&mpu=17

    #7 1 year ago
    Quoted from stevevt:

    I wonder how many people have played all of them.

    I certainly haven't. Several of those titles rarely appear for sale or at shows

    Quoted from stevevt:

    Even though it has no votes right now, can we assume that TX Sector will walk away with this title?

    While there is a following for that title, I don't think so. It's often compared against Robo War, which I like a bit more than TX.

    #8 1 year ago

    I feel like the 80B games can be really subjective, which is a great thing. I do not really like Tx Sector all that much, which is great because it brings crazy money. I have not played a Robo War, but from what I have seen....i'd definitely like to. Same with Hot Shots. I really like some of the ways Gottlieb used drop targets in these games. The ball save drop target between the flippers on Diamond lady and the knockdown targets they used in Arena were nice features. They also did some cool things like the synchronized drops during multiball on Hollywood Heat. I am also a sucker for some of the music tracks they used in these games.

    FYI, you can demo a bunch of the more sought after 80B tables in the Pinball Arcade app for smartphones. Great way to check some of these games out you may never see in real life.

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    #9 1 year ago
    Quoted from ForceFlow:

    I certainly haven't. Several of those titles rarely appear for sale or at shows

    While there is a following for that title, I don't think so. It's often compared against Robo War, which I like a bit more than TX.

    I do too, but I think more people have played TX.

    Can we at least agree that if nobody votes for either TX or Robo, the data is flawed? Especially if some of the stinkers are collecting votes.

    I'm "lucky" that a local friend has 6 of these things in his collection in various stages of restoration) and has owned a bunch of others.

    #10 1 year ago

    Owned Hot Shots, Spring Break, Gold Wings and Hollywood Heat. Played Rock, Genesis, Big House and TX Sector.

    Of the batch, Gold Wings and Spring Break still in my collection though SB is rarely played. Gold Wings is the best of the bunch IMHO.

    If you are a fan of drop targets, Hot Shots is for you.. No pop bumper in Rock so was not that interesting to me.. Wanted to like Genesis but could not get into it and vari-targets are meh.

    TX I'd like to get another crack at, game was tough but ran out of time. Have to head up to The Sanctum and give it another spin.

    #11 1 year ago

    Tx sector is fun, but will easily win the award for worst backglass in history

    #12 1 year ago
    Quoted from stevevt:

    I'll be playing a really nice Spring Break, if there is such a thing, pretty soon.

    I have a nice Spring Break if you are ever down in CT near the casinos and give it a spin.

    #13 1 year ago
    Quoted from woodrailwizard:

    Tx sector is fun, but will easily win the award for worst backglass in history

    Genesis says "hold my beer and please look up 'easily' in the dictionary".

    #14 1 year ago
    Quoted from stevevt:

    Genesis says "hold my beer and please look up 'easily' in the dictionary".

    Let's not forget about Raven. I may pick up a cheap Raven some day again and do all new cabinet art and a totally custom translite. I actually like the playfield art, and the gameplay is okay for a 1 ball game.

    #15 1 year ago
    Quoted from woodrailwizard:

    Tx sector is fun, but will easily win the award for worst backglass in history

    No way. Not even close.

    Genesis, Laser War, Algar, Raven, Flash, and more...

    #16 1 year ago
    Quoted from RatShack:

    No way. Not even close.
    Genesis, Laser War, Algar, Raven, Flash, and more...

    I own Spring Break and its fairly cringy backglass.

    Flash might be a great game but for some reason I can't get past the art at all. Its like Williams chained some D level artist mugged from a comic company and chained him to a desk till they churned something out.

    #17 1 year ago

    TX Tx tx tx

    #18 1 year ago

    Having played the majority of the System 80B games, my favorite is Robo-War. It has some of the best risk/reward strategy out there with multiple ways to approach the game. TX is fantastic, but there's a lot of stop and go, and I've always felt it's party trick was really just the cool teleport feature.

    In Robo-War, you can shoot for the roving bonus advance, advance letters in "ROBOWAR" (which carry over ball to ball), or go for the super risky ramp shot for multiball. Alpha III, II, and I targets must be made sequentially (each completion of all three adding another rollover for extra ball), so it's really a fantastic shooters game. There's very little dead space on the deck. While in multiball, every drop target (times the current multiplier) adds points to the multi-bonus which is tallied at the end of the game, and scored as your jackpot during multiball IF you can make that ramp shot again. You're your own best jackpot--and I think that's super cool. Spinner rips along with a sweepable drop target bank really seal the deal for me. Oh, and the music cranks. It's based on a classical musical score.

    #19 1 year ago

    Tag Team, HollyWood Heat, Spring Break.

    #20 1 year ago

    I hate to vote and not play all the games or even most of the games... Or heck even a handful of the games on the list.
    I own a raven. And while its never worked great for me(I'm going to fix it up just needs some minor attention and it'll most likely be awesome), you could say that's my favorite of this bunch because of the cheesy theme...

    I really liked Gold Wings. But, I only played about 3 games on one. But, I was amazed at how much I enjoyed it. I thought the layout might be a bit gimmicky, but nope it shoots very nice.

    I only played a few games on a hollywood heat. I enjoyed the game. Watched a lot of footage on papa on this game, and I think I want to own one someday, as I think its pretty nifty. But, I'd like to play a few more before I make up my mind.

    I might have played Genesis once. But, that is a game I'd really like to play and find on location as again from the videos I've seen, it looks to be a fun pin.

    Spring Break I have played. And... Yep... That's hte nicest thing I can say about it.

    Played Excalibur. I really liked it. But, I only played 3-5 games on it. Hope to play some more in the future. Was fun. Like the theme and the art.

    TX-Sector, Bone Busters, Victory I played digital versions on and Rock I played the VPX digital version of. TX is a very great shooting pin. Would like to know how it shoots in real life. BoneBusters... Its not horrible, but nothing great... And Victory. Interesting rules, very unique layout. But, I don't like the forced linear gameplay. Some people like that. I don't. While lots of shots, its really just too much of the same thing over and over. Not a fan of it. Don't hate it. Its unique... But, to me not fun... Never played the real pin, so my thoughts could change.

    Bad Girls never played. But want to.

    I guess I should try to find and play a robowar. Looking forward to that.
    And man isn't HotShots just a really wrong backglass... So much cheese for all these backglasses. I love them. Just so awesomely and amazingly bad.

    #21 1 year ago

    Are you sure? -- at least it's not a photograph!
    -mof

    #22 1 year ago
    Quoted from Diospinball:

    I only played a few games on a hollywood heat. I enjoyed the game. Watched a lot of footage on papa on this game, and I think I want to own one someday, as I think its pretty nifty. But, I'd like to play a few more before I make up my mind.

    Lock ball one, lock ball two, hit ramp to release.

    Rinse and repeat.

    Gets boring pretty fast, sold mine to a couple looking for a cheap game for casual play, they love it.

    #23 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Lock ball one, lock ball two, hit ramp to release.
    Rinse and repeat.
    Gets boring pretty fast, sold mine to a couple looking for a cheap game for casual play, they love it.

    You got a lot of games in your collection. I only have 8... But, I would like to own about 30-50 pins before I die.
    So I really hope to get a massive collection. And I don't mind simple ruleset games. Sometimes I enjoy playing them, and having fun for what they offer. You are correct there is not a lot to that game. But, I do find it fun to pad out my collection with games like that, just because it gives me a break for the other pins I tend to play more of.

    I love Iron Maiden, and I love my Elvira... And I play the heck out of them. But, I also enjoy playing a few games here and there on my cheaper pins. I wouldn't want to pay too much for a Hollywood Heat. And I would also slightly retheme it. Just a minor tweak. Mostly just replace the translite.

    And right now I do not have the space for a game like a Hollywood Heat. But, one day I hope to get a big pole barn that I'll finish and make super nice and turn that into a Pin Barn. That way I can have a few games like that and not take up valuable real estate.

    #24 1 year ago

    TX-Sector and RoboWar rule!
    Excalibur is really fun and addicting, but I have one so I'm biased. And the horsie noises rock!

    I would like to have a Hollywood Heat. Fixed and played one locally and rocked the one at Calextreme. Really fun and weird. Captive ball pop bumper!

    Victory sucks a lot. Spring Break sucks but not as much. I like Monte Carlo. Gold Wings is a bit meh as they say.

    Genesis is ugly but fun. I like Bad Girls. The pinball machine is pretty good too.

    Cal Extreme always has a buncha sys80b machines!

    #25 1 year ago
    Quoted from mbaumle:

    Having played the majority of the System 80B games, my favorite is Robo-War. It has some of the best risk/reward strategy out there with multiple ways to approach the game. TX is fantastic, but there's a lot of stop and go, and I've always felt it's party trick was really just the cool teleport feature.
    In Robo-War, you can shoot for the roving bonus advance, advance letters in "ROBOWAR" (which carry over ball to ball), or go for the super risky ramp shot for multiball. Alpha III, II, and I targets must be made sequentially (each completion of all three adding another rollover for extra ball), so it's really a fantastic shooters game. There's very little dead space on the deck. While in multiball, every drop target (times the current multiplier) adds points to the multi-bonus which is tallied at the end of the game, and scored as your jackpot during multiball IF you can make that ramp shot again. You're your own best jackpot--and I think that's super cool. Spinner rips along with a sweepable drop target bank really seal the deal for me. Oh, and the music cranks. It's based on a classical musical score.

    Gonna have to agree with Max, here. Robo-War is awesome. One of my favorite pins. Diamond Lady, Genesis, Bad Girs, Excalibur, and Hot Shots are also a hell of a lot of fun. I used to be on the TX train but kind of got bored of the game. Very fun to play competitively, though. All in all, don’t listen to the naysayers. Gottlieb did some questionable things but they still made a ton of solid games in this era.

    #26 1 year ago

    I have played quite a few of these.
    I find system 80B titles to be great multiplayers
    My favorite is Big House. When the lights go out and the search light is going right before multiball is great.
    Nudge-it didn’t make the poll?.... (kidding)

    #27 1 year ago

    victory,bad girls,arena then the rest,i played all of them and then some.here's my current line up.
    sorry about the "bright " images.

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    #28 1 year ago

    Robo-War, by a country mile. Incredibly good music. Clear but not easy objectives. Fun multiball and nice light show. Played this one as a kid at Aladdin's Castle arcade way back when. Rock is fun with the upper playfield and adding to music when finishing the drop targets. Gold Wings has a lot of shots and the air-raid siren. I don't get the flack they receive. They have their own distinct flavor and are refreshing to play for a change of pace when you want something different. Game play was good but the photo "artwork" never did it for me.
    *I've never gotten to play TX sector.

    #29 1 year ago

    Great... All this talk about Robo War being a great game, and I went and I watched youtube videos of it, and now I want to own a Robo War.
    I like the backglass, I like the artwork, I like those lights on the backwall, and I like the rules of the game.
    Those types of simple rule games appeal to me.

    I also really dig the robot voices. Had to go make me like a rare kind of hard to find game.

    1 year later
    #31 3 months ago

    Ohh man it’s Robo-War, gameplay, sound and light show are spot on. Everyone can play this and have fun.
    Gold Wings looks like fun also, I quite fancy one. My wife’s life insurance should cover the heart attack from the siren

    2 months later
    #32 33 days ago

    I love the System 80B games, better then alot of Williams ones

    #33 32 days ago

    I currently own: Genesis, Tx Sector, Robowar, Excalibur, Spring Break and Big House. Owned in the past: Bone Busters and Victory.

    If I had to pick my favorite it would be Robowar, followed by Excalibur and Tx Sector. The remaining are a lot of fun to play and get played alot.

    Sold Victory, just couldn't get into that game.

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