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What is the process used to create original playfield plastics?


By harryhoudini

39 days ago



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    #1 39 days ago

    I've read a ton of articles on reproducing customs plastics and the various methods for doing so. I'm wondering if anyone has the details on what is used to create original plastics in bulk? It seems like the artwork is screened on to the plastic and then a white layer of ink is screened on top of that. Is that about it? Seems like they are generally CNC laser cut?

    #2 39 days ago
    Quoted from harryhoudini:

    I've read a ton of articles on reproducing customs plastics and the various methods for doing so. I'm wondering if anyone has the details on what is used to create original plastics in bulk? It seems like the artwork is screened on to the plastic and then a white layer of ink is screened on top of that. Is that about it? Seems like they are generally CNC laser cut?

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    #3 39 days ago

    That was pretty much my understanding of the process.

    #4 39 days ago

    Originals silkscreened all modern and most repos digital printed.

    #5 39 days ago
    Quoted from Mitch:

    Originals silkscreened all modern and most repos digital printed.

    Digital printed directly to lexan or plexi or poly? And then what, how is the white background applied?

    #7 37 days ago

    I don't want to make reproduction I want to know what companies currently do to create the plastics on new games.

    #8 37 days ago

    I can’t speak to pinball plastics in particular but we do a lot of printing on acrylic, PETG, and other plastics for my job.

    Ink is put down in layers on one side of the plastic, so the order of application all depends on what finish you want to have. You can hopefully see in the photos of the cat below how the side with the ink is more of a matte finish.

    So then it also depends on what type of image you want the end result to be. Sometimes we want some transparency so we don’t use a white layer. Other times, like in this example, we want the colors to be really bright and pop, so we need the white behind the artwork as a base. Finally, if we want the art on both sides, like this, we do COLOR>WHITE>COLOR. A one sided matte finish might be WHITE>COLOR, while a glossy one sided like on most pins would be COLOR>WHITE.

    I’d have to confirm with our vendor, but most of our printing now is digital, not screened. We print first and then do the cutting, and in this case, the heat-bending.694476AA-EEE3-4369-A9B5-E598F7EB881B (resized).jpegDC583C52-4D5C-45E5-B8D3-58C812B052C2 (resized).jpeg42BEF5E5-BE84-4336-A4B9-401F53C5C49C (resized).jpeg

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    #9 37 days ago
    Quoted from harryhoudini:

    Digital printed directly to lexan or plexi or poly? And then what, how is the white background applied?

    As for the exact material used in a pin, it’s pretty hard for a plastic so I’d initially think plexi (see link below). Have people had issues with cracking though when using alcohol to clean around the plastics? We had to put out a warning to our customers never to use alcohol on the acrylics we send to them bc we’ve experienced significant cracking while cleaning them.

    https://www.hunker.com/13418602/acrylic-vs-plexi-glass

    #10 37 days ago

    Awesome, thanks for that info. Do you know what kind of printer is be looking for who could do this kind of printing direct to plastic with white coating? Most I've contacted don't have the capability or knowledge of doing this.

    #11 37 days ago
    Quoted from harryhoudini:

    Awesome, thanks for that info. Do you know what kind of printer is be looking for who could do this kind of printing direct to plastic with white coating? Most I've contacted don't have the capability or knowledge of doing this.

    I’d have to ask my vendors. It’s not that uncommon, but for doing a single run of plastics for a pin, it’s likely to be pretty costly for piece bc you are absorbing all of the set up charges into one piece.

    #12 37 days ago

    It's several, if not more. I have a printer doing decals and I have plastic but it's a pain to cut out the specific design. Might find a local cnc shop to do it. Would rather have actual printing.

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    #13 5 days ago

    Hey guys. My name is Brian. This is my first time posting here. I tried searching around but there is a LOT of info here and Vid's guides have helped me tremendously on my system 6 and 11 machines.

    Question: Are there any recommended sites or repositories to download plastic artwork? I'd like to give the decal method a try but since my plastics are warped/faded/paint burned, I was hoping to not have to scan them and retouch. What can I say, I am lazy!

    #14 5 days ago
    Quoted from harryhoudini:

    I'm wondering if anyone has the details on what is used to create original plastics in bulk?

    Might be covered here:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/announce-cpr-begins-its-new-business-model#post-4472001

    Quoted from Absolom:

    Are there any recommended sites or repositories to download plastic artwork?

    I'm pretty sure copyright laws have closed down attempts to do this in the past.

    #15 5 days ago
    Quoted from Atari_Daze:

    I'm pretty sure copyright laws have closed down attempts to do this in the past.

    I figured as much. Thank you anyway!

    #16 5 days ago
    Quoted from Absolom:

    I figured as much. Thank you anyway!

    Despite this being true, LOTS of people have scans for many unobtanium plastics. Copyright holders have a responsibility to defend their ownership and shut down production of plastics - but if they are never going to be produced, -and you keep it to yourself-, there’s nothing they can do

    #17 5 days ago

    Try posting in a club thread, never know what someone has.

    #18 5 days ago

    Try posting in the forum below. Also Check the Ann Arbor museum to see if they have your game. If they have the game, filter for posts by cfh (clay). He runs the Ann Arbor museum. In his posts he lists the plastics that he already has scans of. If it isn’t listed on him and ask for his help.

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/trade-your-plastics

    #19 5 days ago

    I seriously miss proper silk screened artwork plastics, the lines where so sharp and the colours nice and flat and not grainy.

    #20 5 days ago

    I have to say the plastics on my JJPoTC are grainy and underwhelming.

    #21 5 days ago
    Quoted from bluespin:

    Try posting in the forum below. Also Check the Ann Arbor museum to see if they have your game. If they have the game, filter for posts by cfh (clay). He runs the Ann Arbor museum. In his posts he lists the plastics that he already has scans of. If it isn’t listed on him and ask for his help.
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/trade-your-plastics

    Thank you for your suggestion. I will check this out!

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