Quoted from Rick432:For me, for all the reasons to consider TOTAN overrated, one can say similar things about Tron.
No, one can't.
Well, I mean, one could say it. It just wouldn't be true. 
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Pinheads will like different pins and think some are overatted it's the spice of life. I happen to love TOTAN for the layout, magnets, and art. I also really enjoy the wizard mode with no auto plunger with 4 in play gets hectic. That said, I do understand that not all pinheads will like it. No matter how good the arguments are made on either side some will love it some will hate it just the way it is.
Quoted from Rick432:Tron and TOTAN remind me a lot of each other in the sense that I find them BOTH beautiful with great sounds, theme, and art, but simple gameplay features (spinning disk, spinning lamp). In fact, TOTAN has more mechanical gimmickry than Tron, with the Genie magnet dropping the ball beneath playfield and the shooting star cage. But the spinning lamp is imbalancing in terms of scoring.
Still, from a gameplay perspective, for being initially strikingly different in appearance, there are still simlarities between the two relative to other pins.
For me, for all the reasons to consider TOTAN overrated, one can say similar things about Tron.
Last time I checked Tron wasnt in the top 10.
Quoted from AbacusMan:All of them!
What he said. None are worth over $3K in my book,& I've never paid more than that. If you could find one NIB it would be worth more,but not for a used,20 year old machine.
Just cannot get into TAF. Probably because it owns me, but nevertheless..
Quoted from Breadfan:What he said. None are worth over $3K in my book,& I've never paid more than that. If you could find one NIB it would be worth more,but not for a used,20 year old machine.
This thread has nothing to do with the pins value.
Nothing.
Quoted from RobT:This thread has nothing to do with the pins value.
Nothing.
I could be wrong, but I think he's trying to justify his purchase of WOZ. At least judging by his screen name, I think that's what he's doing. Especially with the whole, NIB reference. Not sure why he would bother, it's his money, he can do as he please.
Quoted from Breadfan:What he said. None are worth over $3K in my book,& I've never paid more than that. If you could find one NIB it would be worth more,but not for a used,20 year old machine.
Yeah.....and same goes for old classic cars. I means jeez they are old and used and could never ever be worth more than when they rolled off the lot.....that would be crazy I tell you. 
Not too many surprises to me.
Although I am definitely surprised (in a good way) that MB didn't get more votes than it did. It just seems that I read so many posts here by people saying it's so easy, overrated, boring, etc that I though it might get a lot of votes. Turns out it is currently tied for fewest votes of any pin in the Top 10, so most people here really don't think of it as being highly overrated (at least to the same extent as others in the top 10).
LOTR has put up a very good showing as well, showing that it's current spot at number 5 doesn't bother a significant number of people.
MM is middle of the road, completely expected. It's number one, and it's expensive. People will hold that against it (even though price shouldn't be considered). Not saying everyone who voted for it did it for that reason, but I know it still happened.
Quoted from RobT:Not too many surprises to me.
Although I am definitely surprised (in a good way) that MB didn't get more votes than it did. It just seems that I read so many posts here by people saying it's so easy, overrated, boring, etc that I though it might get a lot of votes. Turns out it is currently tied for fewest votes of any pin in the Top 10, so most people here really don't think of it as being highly overrated (at least to the same extent as others in the top 10).
LOTR has put up a very good showing as well, showing that it's current spot at number 5 doesn't bother a significant number of people.
MM is middle of the road, completely expected. It's number one, and it's expensive. People will hold that against it (even though price shouldn't be considered). Not saying everyone who voted for it did it for that reason, but I know it still happened.
I'm surprised AFM did as well as it did. Not because of my personal opinion, but to me it seems like it garners a lot of "I don't get it," "empty playfield," and "nothing going on" posts. But here it did better than MM. Way to go AFM!
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Quoted from Max_Badazz:SM....its a good game but not a great game (as in a top 10 great game). MM doesn't wow me as a top 10 either (it's good but not one of the top 10 best ever)
This is funny to me as you have Avatar rated at a 9.1+ in your top 10
(but SM & MM are not top 10?)
Sorry but Avatar doesnt make my top 50... to each his own i guess, i just prefer to not
have $1.99 Toys R US Ken Dolls on my play field 
Quoted from RobT:Although I am definitely surprised (in a good way) that MB didn't get more votes than it did.
Quoted from RobT:so most people here really don't think of it as being highly overrated
While your statement is correct for this poll, I don't think you could draw that conclusion.
What if every person who voted for TotAN would have voted for MB, but they felt that TotAN deserved it more? i.e., I don't think the poll can really generate any data beyond the initial question of which title in the top ten is most over rated.
Personally, I voted for ToM. My next choice would have been TotAN, my third choice would have been MB.
Now back to your MB lovin'
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Quoted from RobT:Turns out it is currently tied for fewest votes of any pin in the Top 10, so most people here really don't think of it as being highly overrated (at least to the same extent as others in the top 10).
This conclusion is correct.
RobT- I think you were "short quoted" earlier.
Quoted from ryan1234:This conclusion is correct.
I dont believe you can draw that conclusion from that data.
I'm no mathalete by any stretch, but if every one of those people who voted for TotAN believes that MB would be their second pick for most over rated, that conclusion goes out the window.
The only way to draw a conclusion regarding any other machine listed (besides TotAN being the most over rated), would be to have a 'rating' poll with all machines listed.
It's just math. I think.
Quoted from smokedog:I dont believe you can draw that conclusion from that data.
I'm no mathalete by any stretch, but if every one of those people who voted for TotAN believes that MB would be their second pick for most over rated, that conclusion goes out the window.
The only way to draw a conclusion regarding any other machine listed (besides TotAN being the most over rated), would be to have a 'rating' poll with all machines listed.
It's just math. I think.
You need to read the entire statement.
Quoted from RobT:at least to the same extent as others in the top 10
Quoted from ryan1234:You need to read the entire statement.
The only conclusion you could draw would be 'to the same extent as TotAN'. Unless you believe if we pulled TotAN from the poll and left the rest, and voted again, the results would be identical.
Quoted from smokedog:The only way to draw a conclusion regarding any other machine listed (besides TotAN being the most over rated), would be to have a 'rating' poll with all machines listed.
So there would be a rating poll of a rating poll.
Quoted from jimjim66:So there would be a rating poll of a rating poll.
Correct
Quoted from smokedog:The only conclusion you could draw would be 'to the same extent as TotAN'. Unless you believe if we pulled TotAN from the poll and left the rest, and voted again, the results would be identical.
Opinion poll's conclusions are statistical based. ----Mathematical science, not Mathematics.
1 year later
Time to bump this bad boy!
When I posted this thread nearly a year and half ago, I thought TAF was the most overrated pin in the Top 10 followed closely by TOTAN. I would now definitely put TOTAN in front of TAF in terms of being overrated.
Edit: and yes, I realize that the current top 10 list is different now, with AC/DC rightfully coming in at number 5! 
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