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What is the most disappointing pin produced in past 20 years?

By Rick432

8 years ago


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#115 8 years ago
Quoted from jwilson:

I guess if you're talking pure disappointment, there's Popeye. It essentially destroyed Williams Pinball.

Hard to take the opinion of People who can't read the title of the thread and do simple math.

And in this thread SWEp1 has already been accused of destroying Williams.

#126 8 years ago
Quoted from bane:

Since Indiana Jones 4 was one of the worst and most disappointing movie sequels ever, I cannot fathom how the pinball disappointed. It was entirely in keeping with the abomination that was the film.

I played the pin before I saw the movie. So I took the damage from the pin first.

#129 8 years ago
Quoted from jwilson:

Popeye caused distributors to turn against WMS and was the first game to go down the "closeout price" rabbit hole that eventually lead to P2K as the hail mary, but then JPop and Lucas dropped the ball.
So both are true.
You're right that it's more than 20 years though.

People also blame the ET game for killing Atari. When the truth is no one game kills a corporate division. Business decision are made to cut losses or increase profitability. The decision by Williams to force distributors to buy a certain amount of games starting with Popeye was not the game Popeye's fault. It was another bad decision by corporate.

And also most people who trash a game have never put enough time on to get to even form their own opinion. Group think takes over. I use to pick on Popeye myself. After going through the entire game to color it I learned it has a pretty solid set of rules and fun game play.

Williams was dead before Jar Jar Binks could put the last nail in the coffin 6 years after Popeye. Williams had already decided the money was in the slot machine division. Even Gary Stern use to say the real money was in the redemption games. But "he" did not want pinball to die. He made pinball a positive revenue flow, but he could have made more if he shut pinball down and diverted the resources to redemption. He personally did keep pinball alive while Williams let the shareholders decide its fate.

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