I've owned a NASCAR for just under two years. It was my first Stern and I bought it partially due to the price. I think it's a really fun game that gets a bad reputation but some Pinsiders who like to stereotype the theme. The code is deep, the modes have a lot of variety, and it has great flow. My guests love the machine and it always gets a lot of play when I have friends over. If you get a chance to play one in decent condition, I suggest playing a few games and judging it for yourself. I'm glad I did since it's a solid game for under 3k.