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What is the actual weight of all pinball machines?

By Ockeyhead

5 years ago

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#1 5 years ago

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Ockeyhead

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Dover, PA

10y 52,900 651 3 14

After having 50+ machines rotate in & out of my three pin lineup, I was very curious to know the actual weight of these machines. It seems as if the Stern Spike Systems are a meager 50 lbs., in comparison to the tank-like weight of a 500 pound JJP. Of coarse, I am just exaggerating to make a point ~ but not by much. There is also an obvious difference in the comparison to a Williams vs. Data East. Pound for pound, what is the actual weight of all Sterns, Gottlieb system 80's, Spooky, all Bally/Williams including system 11's, Sega's, Capcom & EM's, etc.? >>>"In this corner, weighing ???? pounds is the heavy weight champ ~ JJP!!! & in this corner, coming in at a paltry 31 pounds is ~ Mr. Zizzles!!!

#2 5 years ago

JAY

Phat_Jay

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7y 111K 2,309

More or less most standard width games are 250 lbs. my bsd manual says 285 in the box.

#3 5 years ago

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Electronmagic

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Lombard, IL

8y 69,400 762 34 8

I'm going to estimate there are 3.5 million pinball machines in the world, and at 250 pounds each average, that would be 875000000 pounds of pinball machine in the world.

#4 5 years ago

JAY

Phat_Jay

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7y 111K 2,309

Just imagine the weight if they were all sttng! The earth would collapse in on itself in a black hole!

#5 5 years ago

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Ockeyhead

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Dover, PA

10y 52,900 651 3 14

Exactly! A buddy of mine has a STTNG & it's a wide-body beast! Obviously the Williams WPC machines tip the scales of fine quality, as w/ TZ & STTNG one could add another 50 or so pounds to the actual weight. Possibly 325 lbs. ???

#6 5 years ago

CHS

Chuck_Sherman

Pinside member

Vancouver, WA

11y 77,050 873 12 9

Quoted from Electronmagic:
I'm going to estimate there are 3.5 million pinball machines in the world, and at 250 pounds each average, that would be 875000000 pounds of pinball machine in the world.

Did you factor in Bingos?

#7 5 years ago

DRD

DennisDodel

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St Louis, MO

12y 90,050 2,643

Quoted from Chuck_Sherman:
Did you factor in Bingos?

The heaviest Bally bingo was Hawaii weighing in at 443 lbs.

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#8 5 years ago

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ForceFlow

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9y 238K 31,358 268 14

OP
Quoted from Ockeyhead:what is the actual weight of all Sterns, Gottlieb system 80's, Spooky, all Bally/Williams including system 11's, Sega's, Capcom & EM's, etc.

It depends on the title and era. Early solid state are fairly light.

Alphanumeric & DMD games are usually 300+

Modern games vary, depending on how packed they are. Last I heard, woz was the heaviest, although POTC looks pretty packed too.

#9 5 years ago

MKY

Pdxmonkey

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12y 170K 7,304

Pin2000s hurt my back

#10 5 years ago

TMW

DrWaz

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6y 40,050 145 9

I think I heard that Hobbit was like 400lbs but I could be wrong it just feels that way when I had to get it into my basement!

#11 5 years ago

JOR

jorro

Inactive member

Bermuda Triangle

8y 81,550 2,988 8

Quoted from Pdxmonkey:
Pin2000s hurt my back

This !!!

#12 5 years ago

YOB

Mancave

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10y 114K 3,299

Quoted from Pdxmonkey:
Pin2000s hurt my back

Yeah RFM is like 265-270Kgs must be one of the heaviest later pins, it seemed heavier than STTNG also and that thing is a lard butt

#13 5 years ago

LTG

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Hopkins, MN

12y 191K 56,966 24 7

Quoted from DrWaz:
I think I heard that Hobbit was like 400lbs but I could be wrong it just feels that way when I had to get it into my basement!

350 pounds.

LTG : )

#14 5 years ago

BLY

MrBally

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Paradise, NV

12y 141K 13,931 22 1

Quoted from DennisDodel:
The heaviest Bally bingo was Hawaii weighing in at 443 lbs.

You can Bank on Bally

#15 5 years ago

DRD

DennisDodel

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St Louis, MO

12y 90,050 2,643

Quoted from MrBally:
You can Bank on Bally

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#16 5 years ago

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Ockeyhead

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Dover, PA

10y 52,900 651 3 14

The Stern Spike Systems are a breeze to move compared to anything else. Did Stern literally thin out the cabinets, or did they simply change the type of wood used? With a miniature CPU behind the backglass & several "micro" driver boards underneath, you could minus a few extra pounds.
Also, RFM's was mentioned as being a machine that tips the scales. Slugfest was another bulky monster that had a similar cabinet design in comparison to RFM's. My wife & I picked up a Slugfest last year & I assured her that it wouldn't be too heavy. Boy was I wrong & I heard about it on the way home. After that, I really-really try to keep her out of moving these machines. I prefer peace in my life!

#17 5 years ago

JJK

Jeewiz13

Pinside member

Chicago, IL

7y 41,550 171 7

Iron Maiden in box 269lbs

#18 5 years ago

DLS

bigd1979

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Hagerstown, MD

10y 137K 14,191 8 78

Quoted from Jeewiz13:
Iron Maiden in box 269lbs

I dont believe it... impro was the lightest and easiest pin ive ever moved.....

#19 5 years ago

DK

Pinball Naples

12y 155K 4,866 129

Fireball home edition was damn light

#20 5 years ago

CSJ

pcprogrammer

Pinside member

7y 102K 2,368 35 1

If I never have to move an STTNG again I'll die a happy man. The Stargate I used to have was also very heavy for some reason.

#21 5 years ago

B16

Billy16

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11y 94,300 3,701 58

TZ ain't light, either. Never want to move that up a set of stairs again...

#22 5 years ago

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Ockeyhead

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Dover, PA

10y 52,900 651 3 14

With Iron Maiden & all related spike systems, I'm convinced that the box weighs more than the actual machine itself ~ ha-ha!

#23 5 years ago

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Ockeyhead

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Dover, PA

10y 52,900 651 3 14

Also, those Gottlieb 80b's are solid & built like a brick potty house. I've read several incidences where Pinsiders had dropped their 80b's during transport & there was absolutely no damage whatsoever.

#24 5 years ago

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ForceFlow

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9y 238K 31,358 268 14

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Quoted from Ockeyhead:
Also, RFM's was mentioned as being a machine that tips the scales.

I just brought one to pintastic, and it sure is a beast. It's unwieldy mostly because of how heavy and large the backbox is by itself. I can barely handle it on my own. The body cab isn't any worse than most other games.

#25 5 years ago

TMN

Goronic

Pinside member

Kernersville, NC

9y 95,900 4,270

JJP Hobbit took 3 guys to move. All the JJP machines are VERY heavy.

#26 5 years ago

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Ockeyhead

Pinside member

Dover, PA

10y 52,900 651 3 14

What is the actual weight of the quadruple lineup of an individual JJP? Can anyone verify this?

#27 5 years ago

IAN

V8haha

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Frisco, CO

10y 65,300 1,469 42 28

All i know is pinball 2000s are fucking heavy haha

#28 5 years ago

ROB

Rdoyle1978

Pinside member

7y 117K 18,141 14 6

DI is the heaviest thing I have ever carried around in my life. I had to disassemble it to maneuver it down my stairs. (mind you, ,I was alone..). I thought it was 350lbs, but if Hobbit is 350 - this game is easily 50 pounds heavier. Oy.

#29 5 years ago

DNO

Pinside member

Highlands Ranch, CO

11y 73,800 1,976 45

Spike has no transformer, no light fixture/ballast, metal portions of the backbox, much less wiring harness, simpler lock down mech, slide rails, and other things that make them nice and light (relatively)
It's like a racecar, lean and mean!

#30 5 years ago

RUF

rufessor

Pinside member

11y 66,400 2,062 6 10

A few of the later and more complex EMs can probably push towards the upper 200’s but as mentioned prior.... the bingo category rules. I just picked up a 1950 Bally Turf King and had to add to this thread. There is no way that was coming off a trailer with the head off, without three people. We were thinking about it and almost tried but saner heads prevailed and we added a third. Those damn machines are made like a brick. I don’t even know if my nudging skills will transfer- I think the force required to nudge that game would tilt anything but for another similar game.

Bally build a few with cow like weights.

#31 5 years ago

TIM

Tuna_Delight

Pinside+ Frequent

14y 178K 7,263 1

Had to move my 1976 Gottlieb Surf Champ the other day and I think it has, like me, gained weight over the 10 years I"ve owned it.

Damn - those 4-player EM backboxes are heavy!

#32 5 years ago

???

Ockeyhead

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Dover, PA

10y 52,900 651 3 14

I have a converted 2500 in 1 Street Fighter 2 machine that I believe is pushing 250 lbs. This machine is relatively easy to maneuver w/ a slow steady pace & a hand truck. Then I acquired a project Golden Tee cocktail machine that I converted into a GT complete. This unit is solid oak & easily tips the scale at 300+. The GT has a low profile & is extremely heavy. If events continue to escalate w/ N. Korea, we could simply drop this machine on that dysfunctional country & game over!

#33 5 years ago

RPG

tilted81

Pinside+ Addict

11y 104K 2,389 45

Is everyone moving their pin2k’s with the heads on? My sttng by far the heaviest I’ve had. It had to be 350lbs

#34 5 years ago

JIG

jwilson

Pinball Art Prints

Toronto, ON

9y 106K 5,052 6 7

Dialed In has to be 400lbs at least, 200 of it in the head.

#35 5 years ago

JJK

Jeewiz13

Pinside member

Chicago, IL

7y 41,550 171 7

Haunted house was killer for me. The head was light though.

1 year later

#36 3 years ago

???

Pinzzz

Pinside+ Frequent

11y 88,550 1,034

Anyone know what a cocktail pin shipping weight on a pallet? Like a Night Moves or Caribbean Cruise...

#37 3 years ago

ABK

Mafia_Metals

Pinside member

Detroit, MI

4y 27,900 33

I wonder what Hercules weighed! That giant Pin!

#38 3 years ago

LTG

Pinside member

Hopkins, MN

12y 191K 56,966 24 7

Quoted from Mafia_Metals:
I wonder what Hercules weighed! That giant Pin!

275 pounds. Big. Not heaviest.

LTG : )

#39 3 years ago

XYZ

LukyDuck

Pinside member

4y 58,300 1,287

MBr OM says 325 lbs (approx) in crate

WOZ RR 395 lbs on their site

#40 3 years ago

GTO

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Frisco, TX

10y 81,300 577 3 10

Quoted from pcprogrammer:
If I never have to move an STTNG again I'll die a happy man. The Stargate I used to have was also very heavy for some reason.

Stargate is a "healthy" 289 pounds.

2 weeks later

#41 3 years ago

NoQuarters

Pinside+ Frequent

8y 128K 3,010 13 1

Moved my TNA from my house to my son's house. Seemed to be quite a bit heavier than some of my other modern pins.

Anybody have an actual weight for TNA ?

#42 3 years ago

DAD

fiberdude120

Pinside member

10y 78,650 3,369 4

I find they get heaver as time goes on.

#43 3 years ago

BRG

IdahoRealtor

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Eagle, ID

13y 137K 6,778 11 10

I haved moved TZ and WOZ and Haunted House felt heavier. Huge widebody with 3 large playfields and a shitload of coils.

#44 3 years ago

???

Ockeyhead

Pinside member

Dover, PA

10y 52,900 651 3 14

Just sold a Golden Tee Complete Cocktail Machine that was solid oak. Though the cocktail profile is smaller, it still was approaching 300lbs. The newer Stern Spike Systems seem to weigh half that? Stern fully understands that less is better & of coarse ~ cheaper.

#45 3 years ago

KPC

Gornkleschnitzer

Pinside+ Frequent

8y 70,100 951

In progress unloading a storage unit into a future public arcade/workshop space. Moved a few EMs, heads and cabs separate. Easy enough. Moved a couple System 11s. Ugh, not fun in comparison.

And then I moved my Special Force, Bally 6803 with solid particle board cabinet.

Gaaaaah.

When it comes due to shop that game out, first order of business is to build a completely new cabinet out of sensible materials, and sell the old one to a masochist in search of an original. Not moving that one again.

Anybody know how much the 6803's weigh?

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