(Fat Agnus was a chip not a drive, and didn't appear until the A3000. A500 had a regular Agnus.)

Hey now.... don't hate. We used software blitting in one of the stupid games I "wrote" in highschool vocational programming class when we were supposed to be learning how to do array manipulation. The main takeaway from the text was calling one another blitches and how to smack a blitch if I recall correctly. Ahh. Highschool. That said, they could have updated the material sometime before 2004 when I took it.

I dunno, I'm 34, I'm familiar with it, but I'm also at the beginning of the demographic there for Gen Y, also I'm a programmer and I'm interested in all sorts of hardware.

I didn't know anyone with an Amiga. I did have a C64 as my first computer though, then Mac Plus hand-me-down came (Dark Castle, Shadowgate, Hypercard!), Quadra 610 Hand-me-down (Marathon!), Then Pentium 133 with a Voodoo 2 card... Holy crap Turok looked sick on that thing, as did Jedi Knight and some other games in that time period, despite the weak CPU. I remember I brought it to college and kids with Pentium 3 500+'s were jealous it had a better frame rate in Unreal Tournament. Nothing but "HEEEEEEAD SHOT" followed by "F*K YOU CHUCK!" heard in the hall. Yeah, I was the D-bag sniper and still am. Got a lot of mileage out of that machine.

Back on topic. Ben, new theme hints?

Well it's true, AMH graphics didn't have any transparency channel so the numbers have black blocks around them that we cleverly hid.

There is no graphics driver per se, just an array of memory.

The trick I came up with was to draw the text, numbers, graphics first, then stream in image from SD. But it only writes to memory if byte is clear, thus "painting around" text.

Video Toaster was the BOMB! And NewTech is still in business.

Met one of their founders back in March. Told me Kiki Stockhammer was in fact nude when they filmed the famous "quick pull down the blinds" transition.

Interesting approach. And less work to draw. I never understood the layering drawing approach. The fact that it is still done in 3d blows my mind, such a waste of processor cycles. I like the Voxel approach and I'd love to see some blooms from fractals to draw stuff instead of the current methods. Lots of things could benefit from that, all organic stuff obviously. But patterns and textures as well. In 3d obviously it is a hell of a lot more work figure out with ray tracing or whatever method an engine draws with.

I love and miss ray casting: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=61298

The text & graphics are manipulated using a high level language, so it's easier, but slow. Adding a blitter to that would cause a huge dent.

Whereas the SD routines are machine language and adding a compare to zero as each byte comes in byte isn't a big deal. Just needed to set a flag so the routine only does the compare when loading graphics, not streaming audio.

Right. Just reading and writing and not overlapping bytes, which you try to avoid anyway if you're writing in ASM, unless you're updating a memory address with a change. Keep in mind my ASM knowledge is extremely limited (to 8-bit and NES hacking mostly, briefly into sys11 rom hacking). This makes sense now, thanks for the explanation.

You don't want to know how much I lusted after Kiki. Met her once at a World of Commodore show around then. And yes, I remember that transition a little too well.

You, my friend, are ahead of the curve. And Turok was a great game.

If I find my A1000 with Jay Miner's signature on the case, I'm sending it to you. Was still in the original box last I saw it.

Since this has turned to amiga talk until Spooky makes their announcement, who used to play around with Deluxe paint 4? I used to love drawing and even making animations on it.

Still my favorite amiga demo of all time:

Deluxe Paint was cool but if we're gonna derail the thread, let's talk about Kiki.

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Suck my Spock? Borgasm? lmao

Remember the magazine ads for the Snappy parallel port device that could capture still frames of composite video?

Paradigm shifts in video production:

1) Video Toaster
2) Non-linear editing
3) Solid State Media

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For all the time it takes to announce this next game and also the mentioning in other threads....could it be that Spooky and Ben are working on "Duke Nukem Forever - the Pinball Adventure in real 3D"?

Would at least be an insta-preorder for me, at least when they get Jon St. John to do the callouts

I just talked to Charlie and he was heavily dropping hints that the next game is "The Bachelor"

That fits into a "dark" theme as far as I'm concerned.

Yup, bought one. Didn't need it, but Kiki.

I still get the NewTek animation to play in my head any time anyone says "paradigm shift".

Cannot WAIT for the Rose Ceremony multiball!

And the Wizard Mode where you have to try to get a divorce without the mainstream media catching wind of it.

That's hilarious, I've worked with her before...the video toaster was a horrendous piece of crap...lol.

Hiiisssssssssssssssssss

Gotta start somewhere. The first of anything isn't the best, but it is still the first.

I owned one, worked reasonably good considering it was a parallel interface (but limited to the standard 640 x 480 resolution). Only thing was if you didn't have a good quality composite cable you'd get major harringbone from RF noise. I remember when the AMIGA 1000 first came out they didn't even have color importing (only B&W). To get color images, they literally put filters over the camera lens (red blue and yellow) and snapped individual photos, then converted each layer into that color, then merged them together. It was a tedious process (and you had to keep the camera still for all 3 images), but it worked.
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How does that explain the Toaster 2? ROFL.

Which? The Toaster 4000 or the Flyer? I don't remember /any/ other legitimate options for doing what either of those did back then at even double the price. I mean, this was the alternative at any studio I saw back then: http://www.belle-nuit.com/archives/avid1.html

I haven't done any video production since that era besides a handful of weddings (ugh) so I have no idea where the hardware went from there but I remember a whole bunch of stuff we couldn't believe we could afford to do. Younger brother has all kinds of neat toys including a full Avid rig but I wouldn't know where to start - might could find the power button but after that I'd be stuck. The stuff he puts out blows my mind.

Well, if you want to argue about that I would argue that religion is in a ton of pinball, lots of demonic elements in pinball, Gorgar, AC/DC etc. I think it would be refreshing for a 'good' pinball theme.

Guys quit speculating, it is clearing going to be the Bill Pullman pinball.

Rob Zombie FTW!

This has got to be it!

Since Ben is an amiga fan, surely it's going to be the Pinball dreams "nightmare" table

Maybe it will be MINDWALKER. I might feel the need to fire up the Amiga 3000 today. I still use the 500 from time to time as well.

If a Bible-themed pin is ever done, even as a one-off, one or more of the call-outs MUST be Charlton Heston as Moses. Each time a ball was locked for multi-ball you would hear Mr. Heston as Moses say "Let my people go!"

Bill

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Never had an Amiga, way out of my 10 year old self's price range. Atari 800 all the way! (also a Jay Miner creation) Still have it, still works.

Game 2 backglass is going into color now, think he's waiting on that before announcing.

I sure hope Captain spaulding has a spot

Why is it that people act like Christianity is the only religion? There are plenty of other mythologies that include "demons" and similar such "evil" things. In fact, it's largely a common dogmatic element of all mythologies: good vs. bad. Gorgar, for example, isn't a religious reference.

Gorgar come from Gorgon. Greek Mythology. Medusa was a Gorgon.

Gorgar's reference art is Boris Vallejo's "In the Underworld". Vallejo also has a Cerebus painting, he likes Greek & Roman Mythology for subject matter. So it is a religious reference technically, just not one that is actively practiced anymore.

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So.... Disney's Monsters, Inc.?

I watched that last night (I can't believe they gave the stream away for free). It was weird for sure, but incredibly well produced and funny. I loved the random VHS glitches, and the over the top metal music soundtrack, along with the fancy titles when they introduced a character. They also have a funny instructional video on how to hack time

Doubt it. Have you read about all the hoops Disney put Stern through to make POTC? Talk about strict.

Do you have a decent write up of it? Sounds like it could be an interesting piece.

Kung Fury is hilarious.

Tossed an Atari 400 in the last move, along with a ton of other old hardware including a Heathkit HERO Jr. "Daisy, Daisy..."

FWIW, I was 12 when I made my Amiga vs C=128D decision. Child labor laws don't apply in Amish country. =)

Dude, relax, I'm not arguing religion with you, I don't care what you believe or really even who you are, I was simply saying that I'd argue there is a lot of religious elements in pinball. That's all, not disparaging any particular religion so stop making something of nothing.

The next title should be "The family Emery with weird Uncle Ben."

Follow Charlie as he tries to keep an up and coming pinball company in the black. Wife Kayte scrambles between the bank job and helping out Charlie. F it mode is where she finally quits her real job and works for the guy she's sleeping with full time.

It needs to include the Squirrel mode where we deal with the adventures of Charlie's daughter. She gets her driver's license and a boyfriend, only to dump the boyfriend shortly after. More come calling while Charlie tries to beat them away with a stick.

Don't forget the Roach mode where we deal with Charlie's son's exploits. Not sure how to program this one but it WILL include Godzilla and a drum set.

And every now and then we get a glimpse of weird Uncle Ben Heck. Ben is the mad scientist with hair like Einstein. I think he drinks more than Einstein though. I KNOW he drinks more than Einstein. I think he's smarter than Einstein.

It could also have a MN multiball mode where a variety of pinheads from MN come and visit the shop and do nothing but drink beer all day while the Minions are actually trying to get work done.

The game needs a huge tub of cheeseballs as the main bash toy.

So many replies.... I'll pick one ... MN mode (aka Ben mode)... the PF pivots just like POTD on Indy, except its the whole damn PF - 4 degrees to the left then 4 to the right. If you don't puke playing MB in that mode - you get 10,000,000 points. If you do puke, everyone else gets 10mil and an extra ball with the call out "good throw-up, old man, shoot again".

What no Spotted Cow mode FOR SHAME!

Wow...

just wow...

Drink some more there Bryan and see what else you can come up with!!! I'll be waiting one the edge of my seat to see what's next!

Jaz

Clearly the next title should be tongue in cheek, and should be titled:
Ben Heck Zombie bowling in bible wonderland on a rug
[BHZBBWR]

I think you're confusing iconography with religion. It's just imagery from an old book, nobody's going to the First Church of Gorgar every Tuesday afternoon.

I was raised as an ultra-conservative fundamentalist but I didn't even notice the crosses on Metallica until somebody complained.

Shit, Ben. I forgot the Spotted Cow on tap mode at Lawrences Pub and Eatery. You need to down six of them before you can try for the Big John Burger. Last one to puke gets an extra 10,000 points.

Old Testament stories aren't any different than Tales of the Arabian Nights, just better known stories is all. It all ties into monomyth, hero's joruney, etc. Same reason why the plot structure of every movie is the same (especially comedies)

Game 2 has nothing to do with the bible, though may be some demons and hellish monsters if we're lucky!

We could always throw in the sleeping arrangements at Hotel Emery. They involve Roach's bunk beds or the couch in the Nordman suite.

The Nordman suite is in the basement. Charlie's house is old. It's the middle of January and it's time for bed. Charlie has a great space heater for the room but we forgot to turn it on before hand. It's so f'ing cold, I keep all my clothes on, cover up with two blankets and move the space heater right next to the couch. It's not too bad. Along comes about midnight and I wake up with sweat dripping off my balls. It was so f'ing hot I thought I was going to die!!!

Never a dull moment in Benton WI.