I believe

ST is Star Trek
STH is Stranger Things

Agree 100% it does have a learning curve

With the dealers going from being able to order the amount of games they would like to strictly an allocation, the additional runs may have been needed for you to get your game by August. If they ordered 10 and got 3 allocated for example. On one of the last podcasts with Zach Meny he said the additional runs only helped the average dealer about 10% additional supply. So for many probably didn't significantly get you further up in the timeline. Just my 2 cents

Seems unlikely can't remember what podcast but it was over a year ago Gary Stern said basically they hate making Elvira and it is difficult to make. Can't imagine they will bump any turtles volume for Elvira. But they certainly don't mind it at the 25K 40th ann. price.........

GOTG is a great game. Actually if you look at what used Pros have sold for in the last several months you could definitely make the argument a run is in demand. Pros have climbed to upper 7s well above price of a new run, probably a hit after production like some titles.

Oh my bad

I can’t quite defend the demand in that one

Agree 100% that happened to me on the last Elvira run. They raised the price $500 and had option to cancel and get deposit back or pay increase price. The deposit is for the “spot” so I would say don’t count on the old price being locked in. You might be disappointed.

Not sure on DP but I believe dealers got last call for the August run on SW.

There is lots of demand for Elvira but Gary Stern has said on podcasts in the past that Elvira has a high BOM and is very difficult to make. Because of that it seems like it always gets bumped for faster, easier to produce games with a better margin.

Just Pros

Agree, when I had my deposit down for Elvira the last time for over a year they ended up raising it $500 over what it was at preorder. When they did that you had the option to cancel and get your deposit back. Kind of stinks but I would say poster above you have a 0% chance you locked in the price. But in their defense it was $8500 when you locked it in and now regular premiums are going to be $9700 next year. From there Elvira always had a price increase over the premiums so I would guesstimate the Elvira MSRP will be 11K.

Typically it doesn't but with the price increase you should get a chance to get it back. That is what is odd they are not making them again until 2023 and will be the $9700 price so a deposit should get the option to get back. Good luck if they have a Pro might want to snag a pro.

I bet is on Avatar also just based on Zach's comments hinting around this would coincide with a movie possibly and LCD refresh. Could be Spider-Man that would sell a ton of copies. Based on the huge number of MET and ACDC made already I am thinking that would possibly be a long shot. Kind of fun to guess and speculate.

Only problem is Stern might do the Elvira move and make a desirable title like TRON only 200 copies and huge huge price tag as a cash grab. But totally agree that would be cool.

Thx for the insight, cool to hear if they vault something the masses have a shot at it.

Zach on the Pinball Podcast said EHOH is on the schedule for Feb to be produced. But then in typical fashion he said later could it get bumped?...... Possibly

I don't think Pinmonk "takes advantage of" consumers he sell his products. He provides a great product and if you don't see the value I am sure he isn't upset if someone on route doesn't see the advantage. But they make a big difference on some games and others don't heat up that much. There are DIY routes for cheaper but he provides a very professional product that I don't think I am bad at math or creative skills because I have bought from him. He is honest on which games need it and has some great data. Just my 2 cents it is worth it to some of us.

Looks like a game has to be really good to crack above 2

I think I remember awhile back on Zach Meny's podcast he said it was 30% of his pre-order list getting covered so some dealers have a lot more orders than allocation.

So far every indication is December from what I have seen

Should be some Foo pros hitting locations soon. That’s exciting

For the most part aside from Pulp Fiction LE it looks like we are going back to when the games will just be in stock shortly after reveal no matter the distro. But the bigger ones had much longer lists and smaller distros didn't so they have inventory now. Same thing with Elvira there are larger distros with lists still but some have inventory. Personally if the distributor is a good one I would stick with it and figure GZ was a bit of an odd situation of demand and production challenges.

None of the fixes are difficult but some are time consuming. My Elvira the first plunge it went behind the house, got stuck with a misaligned plastic and had to completely take the house apart to get it. I have had to take the house apart for garage issues a couple times and for this pin magnetic nut drivers are a must have to put it back together. The crypt is a bit tricky to dial in and for me the ball guides needed adjusted to go other than straight down the middle. Not run away problems just nagging issues that need addressed for the pin for work properly. Great game but is a super long player to get through the game. I think several dealers have it you can find one right now.

You have always had to declare it on your taxes but in most states if you purchase out of state it is still not taxed at time of sale if it is shipped.

Many have it in stock right now just have to do some checking around.