Any distributors have a BM66 left or is that a pipe dream?

I’m kind of surprised no SThings premium.

Mine will have a premium translite and UV kit, so promium?

Not sure why they are seemingly done with the premium.

Anyone know when JP Premiums will run? Still waiting on one with cointaker

I've heard from my distributor that the rights to the IP are running out soon. Maybe it's a part supply issue where they can't get enough parts to build it before the rights are gone. ‍♂️

I was told that I should get a DP and GZ Pro in December

Has there been a breakdown by a distro of how Stern's ordering/allocation system actually works?

Clearly just because they are building GZ Prems in March, distro x can't order 50 of them without some getting pushed to an August run instead - I presume that distro was only given something like an allocation of 25 GZs for that March run for example. Presumably allocation size is based on previous order volume from that distro or something?

Pretty frustrating overall - I felt lucky to get my GZ Pro early November - I passed on a Prem partially due to not wanting to wait until next summer...

December 21? I thought all the DPs had been moved to summer 22?

I wonder when the backlog just becomes too much and Stern archive a bunch of titles? I ordered a DP pro in July and it keeps getting pushed back to now over a years wait.

With people saying august 22, there’s still a lot of time between now and then for it to be delayed again several times, it must be on a 5 year license not 3, but still there’s a time limit.

I know they can’t magically start making more machines but it does put me off buying nib. I had the chance to buy a 2nd hand one but didn’t want to mess my distributor around as I’m new and don’t want to start off as the person who cancels.

I’ll be quite upset if Stern ends up not making any more or it’s pushed to 2023 with another price hike

I verified my DP Premium got pushed out to August of 22. I ordered it at the beginning of June 21. That's more than a year wait, and I expect it will probably slide more, perhaps into never being made. Especially if more Covid shutdowns and such happen further affecting supply chains and labor forces. I mean, who can really predict deliveries on anything anymore?

I am curious to know if Stern is running their lines at full capacity, or are COVID restrictions/supply issues keeping them from running at 100%. If they are stuck at the former, they almost have to be looking at ways to expand production capacity. There is no sense spending money on designing new 3-4 new games a year, when you have more orders than you can handle for the games you already make.

Another price hike or more is guarenteed to happen sad to say.

That’s super crazy, people also ordered Mando that won’t get until next year.

It just makes the LEs *that* much more valuable. Just for the fact that you can get the darn thing in a timely manner.

For sure, just wondering if I get the DP first or not lol

I’m just not believing the “500 pins per week” number.

Something smells funny with the whole EHoH40, IM Vault, etc. It’s almost as if they don’t care about the backlog and just want to make new titles or high profit margin/low batch games only.

To be fair they are probably just being cautious. They have no idea if people will continue buying at this rate for the next few years. If people don't or if they have a couple of flops, how great for them to have 6 months worth of older games to manufacture that people want to buy.

Assuming they can get all the parts for an additional line, which from what people are saying, I don't think they can right now, it would still be a big risk for them to set it up, maybe needing a new premises and train new people just for demand to drop in a couple of years, it may not have paid for itself over filling gaps over the next few years.

I understand the situation, it's just frustrating

I think you are right. COVID sparked a frenzy and that frenzy has already slowly started to fade and will continue over the next couple years. There are guys who got into the hobby last year and this year who are already selling their collections off. These guys jumped in head first and dropped lots of money on overpriced machines and they will be wanting to cash out and get their money back. Stern should be cautious because if all these guys start selling there is going to be a flood of games for sale on the secondary market.

It seems like distribs have conflicting info or things are changing by the day.

My info from today says BM66Prem, EHOH40 and MandoPrem for this month.

On Nov 3rd my distributor said Dec '21 for DP Pro. Now he's not sure. Looks like production dates are a moving target.

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I had seen rumors that B66 would be on the line starting today, 06DEC. I am hoping this is still true!

Same. I'd love to get a shipping notice this week!

I had a spot on the supposed Nov/Dec run, but they've now told me it won't actually be until April. The only good thing is, they said they'd hold my price for me, just the extra $200 for Insider Connect.

That is the first I’ve heard of any distributor offering to do that. Get it in writing if you can.

It's been known to happen from time to time.

I also thought there was no way a distributor would do this, but I have it in an email! I've seen a couple other people saying the same thing on Pinside recently.

Was this only for JP Prem? All from the same distributor?

That's the only game I'm waiting for, so not sure about anything else.

It’s not covid ,It’s a trade war .Just my 2 pennys .

I'm waiting on a JP Premium and an Elvra HOH Premium from Cointaker. Originally was told late 2021 or early 2022. Any idea what the current schedule is?

My bet is another title will be run in 1st quarter next year and will include another price hike across the board. Rumor is Zilla run won't pick back up until 2023.

Trade wars are good, and easy to win.

Last I heard Elvira HOH is December 2022. JP Premium is April 2022.

These are the dates that I've seen posted here for easier reference. If anyone has better knowledge, let us know. I'm waiting on 3 in this list that keep getting pushed.

BM 66 - December 2021
Stranger Things Pro - December 2021
Elvira 40th - December 2021
Iron Man Vault - December 2021
Mando Premium - December 2021
Godzilla Premium - March 2022
JP Premium - December 2022
Mando Premium - June 2022
Deadpool Pro - July 2022
Deadpool Premium - August 2022
Elvira Premium - December 2022

I’m not sure what stern does state side but I’d assume it’s more than most think. They could definitely make more state side if they wanted to but would need to stock up on certain chips?

In mid October I was told from someone at Stern that DP Premium would be in production in the month of December. I really don't believe that, but I certainly don't want to wait until mid 2022.

You forgot Rush haha.

When is Rush being made?

Any day now

Are they really not making any more Godzilla pros till 2023? Dang! I don’t have one on order but was thinking about it.

Anyone know if the last Beatles gold’s have been run yet?

Please don't tell me DP Premium is pushed to August! I ordered mine back in July and sold my pro shortly after. The distro said December build and Feb delivery (Australia). If Stern have now pushed build dates from Dec 21 to Aug 22 I'm actually going to be pretty p*ssed about that. I'd consider cancelling but I really want my DP back.

Sorry, it's apparently true per my distributor. I ordered mine in June. Sucks.

There’s a lot going on that doesn’t make any sense .

This is why I just paid full new retail for a hou premium. I wasnt on any lists yet so I figured it was my only chance

NIB still available: https://nitropinball.com/collections/pinball-machines/products/beatles-gold-in-stock#

Both Avengers Prem & Pro pushed back to May 2022 Australia arrival, So that will be production March 2022

Mando premium production is supposed to begin the week of 12/20.

I wish Stern PR would put out a picture on social media every week with what is on the line. Once machines are being built I don’t think there is any reason why they couldn’t share it.

Unless it is not running