What is for sale in Michigan now (non-scammer edition)? Well, with few exceptions (mostly pinsiders), a whole lot of over-priced crap right now. What else is new? Maybe 1 out of every 90 days, you'll see something show up on Ann Arbor or Detroit CL that's even worth a second glance.

My understanding is that the The Rolling Stones LE was more or less a rebadged reimport. I've played one and really enjoyed the save posts. It adds an extra element to the game. And believe me, those save posts are no guarantee of anything, particularly actually saving your ball. You have to be quick, and they don't stay up long when you push the button.

I can vouch for the fact that the JM is really, really nice. Bill is a really trustworthy and easy guy to deal with too. Have full confidence on this one.

Sounds like your awesome party just keeps getting "awesomer". I'd love to be able to get up there one year. I hope it's a great one!

Does anyone know what in the heck happened to Tim (Crazy4Pin)? It says that his account is frozen.

Deal pending on this one...Thanks, guys.

My heavily modded AC/DC Pro is for sale. Please check out the FS post here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fs-acdc-pro-huo-southeast-mi-4200

Thanks!

I'm thinking about the WH2O. I've played it a couple of times there, but I didn't look it over with a fine-toothed comb. Can anyone comment about its condition if you've seen it recently? From the pics, playfield looks pretty nice-- maybe some edge wear near "Big Foot Hot Foot" inserts, and extra ball arrow insert. Plastics seem to be in great shape. There seems to be a pretty good-sized chip off the lower rear edge of the back box. Do the cab colors seem nice and bold or is there any fade? Can anyone comment on the condition from their perspective if you've seen it recently? I really appreciate it!

Posted this on the Brighton Games for sale thread too. Thanks.

Wow, that's wonderful. Congrats!

Every time I see a bunch of posts suddenly in this thread, I get excited. Unfortunately, nothing has really been for sale as of late. I sold my AC/DC Pro 2 weeks ago and figured I wouldn't have any trouble finding a new game over winter break. I should have known better- haha. You guys know how it is. Whenever you're not looking, everything under the sun goes up for sale and when you are looking, it's tumbleweed going through the Michigan pinball community.

If anyone has been giving consideration to selling a game, I'll come get it tomorrow.

Would love any of the following:

WH20, AC/DC Premium, Tron, Totan, Congo, NGG, FT, XMLE, CP, Who Dunnit, TRSLE, Goldeneye, TAVLE, TS, IM

To tell you the truth, I'm pretty flexible. I really want a title that I haven't had, but I've had enough by now where there are a few that I wouldn't mind having again.

But I'd really like to have something in place tomorrow or Saturday at worst. I "need" a game to unwind with after a tough day/week of work.

If anyone has one that they've been on the fence about and would like a hassle-free sale or know of someone, I'd really appreciate the heads up. Thanks a lot!

Wanted to add my brand new ACDC ramps and protectors FS ad to the thread-- Thanks.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fs-acdc-ramps-and-protectors-brand-new-210-shipped

Every now and again, I get a game that reminds me of something very important: How much a game costs (or is worth) is often no indicator of how great or fun the game is. I bought Echovictor's (Eric's) Last Action Hero last weekend and am having an absolute blast with it. I've never played a sub 2K game in the last couple of years that equals this one. (I've never come on here ranting and raving about a game that I just purchased in the past either.)

The game has it all: Lots of Modes, multiple upkickers, drop targets (along with danger bar or something, where if you hit an empty drop target space, they all go back up and you start from scratch- very cool), playfield ball randomizing magnets, multiple scoops, Arnie quotes, shaker, a well-integrated crane/ball lock feature, high-powered kick back (think War Machine from IM- comes back just as fast, that's for sure), two captive balls, great dots, and don't forget the "smart missile"- haha. In other words, this is an LE if Stern were to build an equivalent in 2014.

I'm starting to get on board with Tamoore (Todd) when it comes to looking at Sega/DE when it comes to pure fun. This game is fantastic.

I can attest to the fact that Adam is a great guy and seller. If you're thinking about getting this game, you had better act fast as I'm thinking about it myself.

It looks really nice, Clay. Is that just a tiny bit of wear where the ball drops in the left inlane?

I think the POTC mods started this debate. The funny thing is that that game has some of the best, particularly the ones from BAC. The cannon mod over the shooter lane is my personal favorite mod of any game (and the most appropriate if you think about it). Look, you shoot a pinball (cannon ball) right out of it-- very cool.

Maybe you should've offered some friendly advice. Otherwise, he should join Pinside so that when he prices games like this, he can take the grief himself.

I don't know what it is, but of the 15 or so games that I've had, I think one of them came from a 10 mile radius from where I live. As much of a "hot bed" that Southeast Michigan supposedly is for the pin hobby, except for a few sellers, it certainly doesn't seem to be the place to get a fair price for a decent game. In fact, there is a Westland seller who has tried to sell plenty of over-priced games in the past, including a $6500 TAF if I recall within the last year.

I'll be at MPE tomorrow evening from about 5 p.m. to close. I'm currently game-less and looking. If anyone has something to sell and will also be there around that time, please let me know. 90's W/B games and newer Sterns preferred. Thanks and looking forward to the show!

I just wanted to let you know that it was really cool of you to bring all of those games for play at MPE. You give and take a lot of crap on this forum (much of what you take is deserved), but you deserve major kudos for your contribution to the Expo. I really enjoyed playing your games. Thank you.

Geez. I just got home and saw about 20 new posts on the supposed "What is for sale in Michigan now (non-scammer edition)" and got excited thinking that someone or several people were putting a whole bunch of games up for sale.

Hey Brian,

I'll take a chance on just about any DMD era W/B or newer Stern that I haven't had before, to be honest. I wish I could have gone to PATZ, but I just wasn't able to make it. It seems like there were a lot of great machines there this year.

I helped Bill (tmontana) get the game into his house today. It was by far the most beautiful, perfect TSPP I have ever seen. It looks like Pinchili did somebody right yet again. Don't hesitate to buy any of his other games. If he says that it's "mint", you can trust that it surely is.

Hey Guys- I just put by HUO and perfect Avatar LE up for sale. Thanks for looking.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-fs-avatar-le-huo-and-perfect-se-michigan

Avatar LE is sold pending pick up. Thanks!

Looks awesome. Good luck with your sale.

Congrats, Mike and new owner. But dammit. We just moved and I was going to be looking for a game once we settled in. Our family loves bowling and this would've been perfect. Congrats again.

These things come up once in a blue moon and there was just an FS here from a seller in Farmington Hills. Did you let it get away? Good luck with your find. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Since the Michigan thread looks like it's heating up, I'd like to offer up my Whodunnit for sale or trade. $2650. It's a beautiful example. Please see pics at the site I made at https://ballywhodunnit.shutterfly.com/pictures#editPictures:albumId=8

Beautiful playfield with a shooter lane, phone hole, and sewer looking like they've never seen a ball. Nice cabinet with a few imperfections, solid corners. Game has no credit dot, no broken plastics, has LED's, and a board set that looks like new. This game has clearly not seen a whole lot of action over its 20 years. Reimport, but the cleanest W/B game I've ever had. I would really like to do a local deal before putting this out to the broader pinball community.

I've included a few pics, but please see the website for more. Thanks!

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I just listed my Twister in the marketplace and forum. Here's the link:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fs-sega-twister-southeast-michigan

Thanks for looking.

Price drop on this Twister ($2150). Thanks again for looking.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fs-sega-twister-southeast-michigan

I am currently pin-less and looking.

White Water, Congo, Fish Tales, The Shadow, BDK, Avengers LE, AC/DC Premium, X-Men LE, Transformers LE, WWE LE, Goldeneye are probably my top picks, although I will consider any DMD Williams/Bally or Stern. I will also pay "market price". In other words, I'm not desperate enough to pay a super premium for anything, but I would also have no intentions on trying to chop you either. I simply enjoy pinball. Also, I can do some basics, but I'm not a great "wrench". And I enjoy playing them more than working on them. So condition should range from "pretty darn nice and fully working" to "pristine".

Please instant message me or send me an e-mail at [email protected] if you have anything available. Thanks a lot!

Is there a Game of Thrones on location in southeast Michigan? Thanks.

Thanks guys. I'll check it out tonight.

I'm interested for sure. Seems like an immersive game of adventure. Not enough games like that. Seems like most newer games have gone the way of most Americans' tastes- in your face, brash, and impatient.

I played GOT LE at Pinball Pete's in Ann Arbor and absolutely loved it. (Thanks to those who mentioned on this thread that they have it.) Aside from the obvious upper playfield, I'd love for anyone to go over the pluses and minuses, from their perspective, between the Premium/LE and the Pro. I've only watched the show casually, but I do like how immersive the game is, and that it seems like I barely scratched the surface of what it was all about after about 10 plays. (Adam- I know you have the pro and would love for you to chime in if you read this, especially if you've played both.)

I've never purchased NIB, so I definitely want to tread lightly. The first time I ever got NIB quotes was for AC/DC back in 2012. The quotes were $4100 shipped for a pro and $6050 shipped for a premium. The other time I got quotes was for the latest run of Iron Man Vault Edition. After striking out, I asked the distributors what they were asking for pros and premiums in general. $4895 shipped for a pro and $6500 shipped for a premium were the best quotes I got, and pretty consistent across the board. That might be prohibitive for me-- I don't know. Has anyone heard of any less at all, or is that pretty much the going rate? From what I gathered, there seems to be a bit of price fixing as well to appease those distributors that like to charge even more.

Thanks a lot for any advice on the game itself or in purchasing, Michigan pinheads. I really appreciate it.

Looks really nice, Clay. Why do I always seem so many of these for sale? It's a highly ranked game from the DMD golden era. Top 20 game with way less units than TZ and TAF and about the same as INDY. But there's always a ton of them for sale and they seem to sit when the asking price is much more than Clay's.

Does anyone know if this is PEN's game? He had one listed on Pinside about 3 months ago. The ad shows as "Expired". If so, is he new in the jewelry and gold game?

detroit.craigslist.org link

Thanks.

Three games are advertised on Detroit CL from a seller (Josh) in Royal Oak.

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The Twilight Zone is advertised as HUO. This seems like an outright lie, to say the least. All of the games have the pricing card which implicates them as being originally sold by Mike of "The Arcade". This means that they are all route machines. They may be really nice and many games from The Arcade (and Shark Club before that) were, but they are route machines. It's funny because when these games were being sold by The Arcade, they were advertised as "like new" at the time. Again, most were nice enough, but "like new" is hyperbole at best and bald-faced lies at the worst. Not to mention that the pricing suggests that they should be better than like-new and should pretty much be NIB (well, almost). I guess I can be hyperbolic too- haha.

You are a go-getter, man. I'd be sitting in the fetal position in my basement right crying about why I just bought a "big pile of pinball" while not having the foggiest notion about what to do first or even how to do it if I did know what to do first.

What the hell?

detroit.craigslist.org link

Is this balogna or a one-of-kind retheme? I'm assuming the former.

Link is not working. It's a Seinfeld pin.

Star Trek the Next Generation officially up for sale tonight or tomorrow in Canton, MI. Bought it from Clay Herrell a few months ago. Zero problems. Works perfectly. No credit dot. Not a museum piece, but a very nice, pretty low mileage original survivor. The only wear is very little at the Neutral Zone, not terrible like most. Only mods are in the back box, I think. Has lithium ion battery and whatever it is that many have done to keep the board that operates the drop target from frying.

I'll probably regret it as it is a great game, but when you're one-at-a-time (or two) like me, there's so much pinball to experience. $3950

My STTNG is officially up for sale. Please see ad at this link.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-star-trek-the-next-generation-williams-1993-2015

This is a wonderful game that is working perfectly.

Beautiful looking Goldeneye on Detroit CL.

detroit.craigslist.org link

It would probably set a record for Goldeneye as far as price is concerned, but it looks like a beauty.

Is GB on location either at Marvin's or Pinball Pete's? Thanks!

Does anyone know whose Golden Eye this is? Is says it's in Novi. I initially saw it over a month ago when it was $2900. He's now at $2600, which is still probably a touch high, but it's getting closer. If anyone knows whose it is or has played it or can speak to its condition, please chime in. Thanks.

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Is the seller of this on pinside? This is from Mr. Pinball classifieds.

Congo, 1995 Williams: 4400
Frosted LED kit, all of the plastics are fine and I replaced all cracked ones w/NOS ones, and I'll include the rest of the NOS plastics from that set. This past year I installed a new main ramp, a new Congo window, rebuilt display driver board, rebuilt flippers. All new green star posts, new leg bolts, levelers, new playfield glass. Rebuilt shooter rod w/new springs I can pack pallet and ship + I get a real good rate.
Drew
[email protected], Owosso, Michigan

Do my eyes deceive me or was this a posting for The Shadow yesterday? I was waiting for the pics on that one. Was this you? Did you change your mind on that one or possibly sell it already? Thanks.

Pretty nice Shadow available about half way between Detroit and Ann Arbor. I realize that I never posted it on this thread, so here it is: https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/67496

Thanks!

Is the reason that they don’t have a sense of humor or cannot make fun of themselves?

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Chris is a great guy!

Did you pay what they asked or did you try to get them to come down in price at all? Also, did you get the game directly at the store? I feel like that should be cheaper than having it shipped to your door by an out-of-state distributor, even if it comes directly from Chicago and yet their in-store prices seem high.

That's good service and there's definitely value in that, along with supporting a local brick and mortar business. Congratulations!

A $1,000,000 home in supposedly tax crazy California costs less in annual property taxes than a $200,000 home in most of the cities in southeast Michigan... ridiculous.

What's your millage rate? Taxable value is usually like half the market value of the home. If your millage rate is 40 (Canton, Livonia, Westland all have a millage rate around there), that's 40 times each thousand in dollars in taxable value. So, for a home with a $240,000 value, it would be 40 X 120= $4800 a year in taxes (or a Congo to satisfy an above poster-- haha).

Another thing with property taxes though is that they reward you for staying in your house and punish you for selling. If you buy a house for $100,000 and it doubles in value over 10 years, your taxes can only go up the rate of inflation. A new buyer who buys a similar house to yours for the new price of $200,000 way more in property taxes than you, simply because you bought it when it was cheaper. I suppose that's good in that it keeps grandma and grandpa from losing their house from not being able to pay their property taxes. Not good for city coffers though and inherently unfair in that it puts a disproportionate amount of a city's overall tax burden on the newest residents.

I've thought about posting something along those lines before, but then I figured that the the irony would be that I was contributing to the problem. Well, did it anyway with this post and the one about property taxes.

Played it this afternoon. It's absolutely awesome. I've never played a game that had virtually no mechanical toys that I liked this much. The light show is everything you could hope for and a whole lot more.

FYI- My brother texted me today to say that 94.7 WCSX is giving away a Led Zeppelin pinball machine. I went to their website, but couldn't find any info. Maybe they've given details over the air. I just wanted to let you know. It would be great if a Pinsider won it.

Does purchasing one of these games include having a beer with Vid?

You have Sana'a next to your name, but I thought that was just a cover. Are you originally from the Detroit area? It seems like you've made mention of it before.

And the cheese spread is sold nationally.

Looking at all the listings and prices within a 100 mile radius from my home, the song lyrics that keep popping in my head are “Help, I’m stepping into the Twilight zone.” 24K WOZ, 20K Star Wars, a myriad of other flip attempts. Pretty ugly.

Does anyone know of a place in S.E. Michigan to play Halloween in the wild? Marvin's doesn't have it. Pinball Pete's? Anywhere? Thanks a lot.

Awesome. Thanks. Headed that way next weekend anyway. I’ll definitely stop in.

That’s not fair. If they have a broken or malfunctioning game, let them know about it. I’ve never had any problem getting my money back in that rare event or even them putting a couple of credits on a game for me. They get all the new games and LE’s at that. They have pins in 3 different areas of the arcade as well, probably upwards of 25 pins. Check out all that Ann Arbor has to offer while you’re here. It’s one of a handful of cities in Michigan that makes for a truly worthwhile visit.

Okay. If you say so. Sorry you guys had a bad experience(s). Unfortunately, not many options for location play with lots of games are in the area.

Hey Guys- Sweet deal by Choggard in the Classifieds. Don't miss it!

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/155861

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