(Topic ID: 52201)

What is Brian Eddy's Best Game?

By Fatsquatch

10 years ago


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“What is Brian Eddy's Best Game?”

  • The Shadow 158 votes
    33%
  • Attack From Mars 119 votes
    25%
  • Medieval Madness 204 votes
    42%

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#79 8 years ago

My pick would go to The Shadow, due to balanced scoring and interesting rule set. Attack from Mars would be a close second. MM is great too, but the castle tends to attract too much focus during gameplay.

#88 8 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

There is no more empty DMD playfield than AFM.
Yet it is the most fun game of all time.
Eddy simply knew how to entertain.

Supposedly the empty space was originally intended to allow the UFO to navigate around the playfield as a moving target during the attack wave.

#90 8 years ago
Quoted from T7:

How were they going to achieve that, mechanically?
Interesting that they did exactly that on RFM using the reflected video.

According to Brian Eddy:

"AFM was the most different. It had one big feature that didn't make it into the game. The saucer in the middle of the playfield was originally suppose to move out and around the playfield.
It started (rested) right where the static one on the final game is. It had a telescopic arm that allow the
saucer to move out about 18 inches onto the playfield and a pivot that would rotate it right & left.
So it basically could "move" around the whole playfield (hence the open playfield area in the final design).
It also had a target hanging down from the middle of the saucer that you could shoot from
any angle. We ran out of time to develop it and keep it cost effective.
It was also a reliability issue and to make it rock solid would have required a lot of testing time."

#94 8 years ago

Here is where

Quoted from Aurich:Nice, what's the source for that?

Here is where I learned about the original AFM design.

http://hem.bredband.net/b257182/eddyinterview.html

#95 8 years ago
Quoted from Hawk007:

MM then AFM then Shadow...No question. The Shadow I wanted to keep in the collection and loved the game minus the terrible 'Shadow...Margo!' call outs everytime a sling is hit..
Man they just SUCK. So much so it ruined the game for me. Although a pinsound board would fix that.
It just feels like a rip off of the 'Gomez.... Tisch' callouts from Addams only poorly done with bad voices.
Brian Eddy is a master design machine. The Shadow is a great player with one of the coolest ball locks ever!!! and is an epic design, but its no AFM or MM, due to theme, art package and sound call-outs.
Just my thoughts.
Different strokes for different folks.
Vive la differance!

To me, The Shadow is not based on the movie, but is a beautiful Art Deco style pin based on the classic old time radio show and pulps... I just need an alternate translite to fully realize this. *cough, Aurich, cough*

#108 8 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

His next one.
LTG : )

Is he currently working on another pin?

#111 8 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

JJP #4. LTG just let the cat of the bag.

Well if Pat Lawlor is designing game number 3, this seems entirely possible. Very exciting! Has the theme for 3 been announced?

#115 8 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

Leaked. Not announced.

I see, what is the alleged theme? Is it a license or a completely new IP?

#122 8 years ago

If he's not currently working on one, he should be! I think it would be very well received. Did he ever say why he completely migrated away from pin development? I understand that Williams was on the decline, it wasn't a growth industry, and digital entertainment was the future. But was it he no longer enjoyed it, or just wasn't viable?

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#141 8 years ago

I think each are winners in their own way. Here is the breakdown in my opinion:

Rules
1. AFM (So much to do here, rules encourage many different types of gameplay requirements preventing the central toy from dominating)
2. Shadow (Offers mode based scoring that offers much more to do, again lots outside of wizard mode requirements)
3. MM (Troll, extra ball, Merlin overlap complexity, castle seems to dominate a bit more)

Flow
1. Shadow (Diverters, extra flipper loop, clean orbits - AFM and MM will block the loop as part of the game).
2. AFM
3. MM

Wizard Mode
1. MM (Full on battle that is very difficult)
2. Shadow (Possible to win or lose on skill)
3. AFM: (Very difficult to lose, and fixed score amount: $5B)

Scoring Balance
1. Shadow (Very balanced scoring)
2. AFM (Many things to do here and ways to accrue points)
3. MM (The castle seems to dominate the focus)

Playfield Artwork
1. AFM (Stylish 1950s alien attack, just works with pinball)
2. Shadow (Design style with gold ramps properly embraces the art deco style of the period)
3. MM

Toys
1. Shadow (Diverters, magnet lock, battlefield)
2. MM (Very cool central toy)
3. AFM

Looks like it’s down to AFM for Shadow for me!

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#145 8 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

Not after next year. And cost doesn't equal quality. By that standard, Big Bang Bar beats every other machine out there.

Is Shadow or AFM being remade this year? I agree, higher cost doesn't mean more quality. Part of MM's appeal was its easy to get rules that led to mass appeal. I'm sticking with my vote of Shadow on this one. Shadow has the most diverse gameplay and the longest replayability of the 3 listed. That alone makes it the winner.

#167 8 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

The call-outs are not from the movie, so just make a new translight and speaker panel.
I've seen that done before...

Or worse case scenario, do a complete reskin, ala Family Guy/Shrek! Base it off the radio show.

#171 8 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

That would be badass.

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Although Aurich has pretty much already allowed us to realize this with his awesome alt translite.

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#179 6 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I was thinking Aurich, but OK......

Haha

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#185 5 years ago
Quoted from John_I:

How about Pool Sharks. Brian Eddy software and a cool game with lots of features including a talking shark. You even get to chose 8-ball or 9-ball at the beginning of the game for two different rule sets with two difference sets of high scores.

Don't know if that counts!

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#186 4 years ago

The poll should be updated to include Stranger Things.

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