(Topic ID: 202809)

What is BRAND NEW?

By bob_e

6 years ago


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#1 6 years ago

I read an ad for a pinball machine on another site.

6 month old ***** pinball from my arcade. Everything works. Brand New

#2 6 years ago

Well, just an educated guess. I reckon it means routed, probably at the point of a major tear down and cleaning and rebuilding flippers and stuff.

LTG : )

#3 6 years ago

Be nice if they would have used "Like New, Renewed or Rebuilt" . Brand New means unused NIB from the factory. IMHO

#4 6 years ago

His post about it was "brand new", not the machine. Perhaps he just wanted people to know out wasn't an old ad about his game lol

#5 6 years ago

Brand New = NIB, anything else is USED

#6 6 years ago

I always wondered why we use the phrase "brand new" instead of just new.

#7 6 years ago

Maybe it was opened but never used, so Brand New still

#8 6 years ago
Quoted from gtxjoe:

Maybe it was opened but never used, so Brand New still

Ad said "from my arcade". Sounds used to me.

LTG : )

#9 6 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

Ad said "from my arcade". Sounds used to me.
LTG : )

Ahhh, Brand new, never used.... since it left my arcade...ummm

#10 6 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

Ad said "from my arcade". Sounds used to me.
LTG : )

Unless he had a crappy arcade, or a poor location, or no signage. No customers ever came by. (I doubt it).

#11 6 years ago

The real question though... Is it "minty fresh"???

#12 6 years ago

"Brand new" only applies to games in their original box, never opened, from the factory, distributor, or warehouse.
Length of time is unimportant, but should be considered if an individual buys a game, New in Box (NIB) game that is over 20+ years old, due to potential for water damage, cabinet damage, board damage, and any other environmental problems.
Yes, these type of rare games DO EXIST.

However, something else to consider:

Pinball modern "false" acronym:
New Out of Box - "NOoB" AKA sometimes reported as "Brand New"
(Very applicable when you think about it)

noun
(See the the Cactus Canyon (Continued) game on PinSide for $18K for an example)

The most recent market "catch" replacement term for Home Use Only (HUO), "brand new", "mint", or "museum quality" by owners when a game is attempted to be sold with "under 200 plays" (real, imagined, or falsified through audit, update, battery, or EPROM modification). Has no direct meaning of value in the market, WHATOSEVER. "Mint" was established from the coinage collector market, decades ago, and applied to other collectibles. "Museum quality" has dubious value, as this means the games often do not work, or they would not be in that condition in the first place, or they have been mothballed in a person's attic or basement. HUO used to have some valid meaning in the past, but much less today, as the term has been extremely abused for nearly 30 years.

Most are horse$#@$ marketing attempts of person/broker/dealer/collector via weak advertising attempts to prey on new, inexperienced buyers or simply lack of general education.
It still works.

Additional example:
There is a TOTAN in CA presently for sale by a private owner ($12K) and classified as "mint", yet it has an alternative non-factory translite (original is not even included!) installed on the game with $3000 of mods including chrome trim and a ColorDMD. That is not the definition of "brand new" either. Factory examples shipped with none of these components. Close inspection revealed it was not a high end restoration (HER), simply a game with lower number of overall gamplays.

"Know what you are buying."

Keep flipping,

- TBK

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