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Pinheads are oldschool and don't want anything truly innovative.
The ONLY company that has actually innovated anything to do pinball is Multimorphic, and I never hear Pinsiders saying "OMG, I hope Multimorphic does JAWS!!!!!"
All Stern has to do is write the same old song, with a few new lines, and everybody wants to cheer it.
Quoted from vid1900:Neither one changed pinball.
Quoted from Pahuffman:You can't say that yet. The Hobbit is going to have an LCD. It's just too early to say it hasn't changed anything. In 5 years you could be eating your words.
I said "changed", past tense.
Because neither of the 2 LCD games in the world, changed pinball.
I've played a bunch of Hobbit. It's better than WOZ (at least in it's early code stage), but it is not going to change pinball either.
Quoted from lowepg:Imagine a not-so-distant future with a line of pins:
WOZ, TH, TBL, Lawlor's new game, etc (All in attract mode- gloriously displaying gorgeous video)
Then, followed by 3 or 4 mono DMD's furious blocking away - trying their very best to look "new"
It's still has not changed the game of pinball, even if JJP survives another few years and TBL actually comes out.
EBD does not "even" have a DMD, yet it is more "fun" to actually play than many of the DMD titles.
Having a LCD does not mean the game of pinball has changed - UNLESS SOMEONE FIGURES OUT A NEW WAY TO USE IT.
Quoted from Pahuffman:there may come a time when we say, "do you remember back when JJP started the LCD revolution a few years ago? It makes DMDs seem so archaic."
New Canasta started the "revolution" way back in 2008.
Six years latter, and the game of pinball has not changed.
Quoted from Pahuffman:Did this game ever go into full production?
Yes.
Quoted from Pahuffman:games made by a little company in Mexico.
I've never seen a Mexican version, but anything is possible.
The ones you see in Europe are manufactured in Spain.
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The game has some cool features, like the lane switches are proximity switches (no moving parts or optos to get dirty), a plastic playfield surface, LED lighting, stereo sound, LCD monitor, but it did not revolutionize pinball - it's still the same game.
4 months later
Quoted from makeittogo:I have been dreaming for 20 years that Stern would build games so great and innovative that no one would want any of those old 90's Bally/Williams games anymore and sell them all to me for cheap.
Even though Stern does build better and deeper games than most of those ancient B/Ws, people still yearn to reclaim their lost youth.
Quoted from makeittogo:So in 20 years, people who want to reclaim their lost youth will buy Sterns and modified Honda Civics? I don't think so...
I'm not sure how many youths are using up all their lunch money playing Stern pinball, but no doubt people will always buy cars they loved from their formative years.
My neighbor has a Mercury Lynx he is restoring - there is no way to make sense of nostalgia.....
Quoted from makeittogo:You can not even give away a tube TV to anyone. If something new (Stern) is truly better the old (B/W) will be cast aside and forgotten.
You would cry if I showed you how many pins I took to the dump back in the day.
You could not give them away.
Quoted from erak:Building 3 models of the same game and charging more $ by adding a "premium or LE" label to it, and maybe an extra magnet, flipper or toy. Instead of making the 1 game with all features they should have just made at the pro price in the first place.
And somehow it has been embraced by the hobby.
If the market keeps buying it, Stern will keep making it.
Stern has lots of smart marketing.
Quoted from Baiter:ha, AFM is a good example of sub-par art and colors. While Tron playfield art is better, it's far from the best example of Stern playfield art... The LE is great because the ramp lighting pulls attention away from the fact that it contains less stuff on the playfield than AFM.
I was just comparing the most fun B/W game with the most fun Stern game.
Quoted from Baiter:and that it is now possible to put a full blown computer system into a pinball machine giving it the ultimate in flexibility.
That would be 1976 with the Intel 6800 processor
Quoted from Baiter:We see innovations in the form of swappable playfields
Many late 1970s Bally games were swap-able to make new pins like:
Quoted from Baiter:glass that lifts up on hinges.
Quoted from Baiter:We see robotic automation in playfield manufacturing
CNC playfields were going strong in the 1980s
Quoted from Baiter:We see attempts to turn a playfield an interactive display.
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Quoted from Baiter:Here's to hoping we'll finally see that one thing that makes a game the must have game of the future... whatever it is.
Amen, brother!
Quoted from vid1900:the charmless Terminator playfield.
Quoted from tezting:You hurt my feelings
At least Terminator has the robot head front and center, but 80% of the playfield is just blank grey paint.
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