(Topic ID: 118127)

What happens if you solder a coil backwards?

By mot

9 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

  • 65 posts
  • 38 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 4 years ago by Walamab
  • Topic is favorited by 5 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

No games have been linked to this topic.

    Topic Gallery

    View topic image gallery

    download (1).jpg
    Coils.jpg
    Coilgun_animation.gif
    solenoid.png
    J127-130.jpg

    You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider snyper2099.
    Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

    #34 9 years ago

    A pinball coil is just a "coated" or "painted" piece of wire. The type of wire is commonly referred to as "magnet wire" outside of the pinball world. This is the type of wire used for 99% of all coils in everything in our world.

    As many others have suggested, the pinball coil (made of a coated piece of wire) does not care how the electricity flows. Only the implementation of a diode into the circuit matters. This is one major reason why some manufacturers removed the diodes from the playfield/coils, and moved them to the head, or on an additional daughter board with plugs.

    This way, it does not matter which wire is connected to which side of the coil, since when using that type of design, all the coils would be without a diode.

    THIS IS ALSO WHY THERE IS ALWAYS VOLTAGE ON ALL LUGS OF A COIL. The most common fallacy pinball people don't realize is that when a game is in play mode, all lugs of all coils ALWAYS have voltage. The GROUNDING of a coil is what determines a coil's actuation. Furthermore, the diode is what blocks that grounding action from affecting other components in that same circuit.

    Now, most flipper coils have two unique coil windings with two diodes, bot those coils use all these same principals to work.

    If all pinball owners trying to fix a coil problem knew these two simple facts and how to use a voltmeter, they would be able to fix a large majority of coil related pinball problems.

    Now, more modern pinball designers like 90's B/W, Stern and JerJack all use slightly modified designs to "cycle" how long coils ground for... This happens in hundredths or thousands of a second and is controlled by the MPU in a game... Think of that as more of an electric determination for the time that a coil is ON, rather than a physical. It is VERY similar to the difference between an analog power supply and a switching power supply.

    #36 9 years ago
    Quoted from terryb:

    The purpose of the diode is to prevent voltage spikes, which occur when ground is removed from the coil, from damaging the driver circuitry.

    I don't follow. If you remove all the diodes from all the coils, voltage spikes are not the only consequence.

    Oh, I think I understand what you're saying now, I fixed it. Meant to type components, not "coils".

    You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider snyper2099.
    Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

    Reply

    Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.

    Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!

    Donate to Pinside

    Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!


    This page was printed from https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/what-happens-if-you-solder-a-coil-backwards?tu=snyper2099 and we tried optimising it for printing. Some page elements may have been deliberately hidden.

    Scan the QR code on the left to jump to the URL this document was printed from.