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What games have displays in the playfield?

By Aurich

1 year ago


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#1 1 year ago

Was thinking about the different ways games communicate information to players, and how most games rely on inserts or backbox displays. It's pretty rare to actually put more discrete information right into the playfield itself.

Not sure what was the first, the earliest that's coming to mind for me is Medusa:

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Was there one before that?

Scott used a similar idea in TNA:

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Not thinking of other segment displays at the moment, those are the obvious ones for me because I owned them both. There must be more though.

Then there's straight up LCDs in the playfield.

Obviously Alien comes to my mind (and Full Throttle):

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but the first time I remember seeing the idea done in this kind of way was Captain Nemo:

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Can anyone think of more examples? It seems less common that you'd think.

#2 1 year ago

Bally's Vector

#3 1 year ago

Right, good call, forgot that one. Only played it once at Banning (RIP).

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Vector is 82, Medusa 81, so Medusa came first.

#4 1 year ago

Full Throttle

There's a couple Gottlieb games that have a display in the apron: Time Line and Black Hole

@zacaj's homebrew Poker game had small displays in front of drop targets.

#5 1 year ago

Stern Lightning has a display, also from 1981 but I'm not sure if it was before Medusa

#7 1 year ago

Gottlieb/Premier - Lights, Camera, Action 1989

#8 1 year ago

Black Hole has one. Also 1981.

#9 1 year ago

Black Hole is a great example, because it has the apron too, good call ForceFlow and trilogybeer

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And right, Rick and Morty, Scott knew it was a good idea and kept it.

#10 1 year ago
Quoted from FrankJ:

Gottlieb/Premier - Lights, Camera, Action 1989

Ooh, good call, even earlier than Medusa. I could have sworn I've played that, but looking at the playfield that huge display is not feeling familiar now.

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#11 1 year ago

WoZ crystal ball, then LCD screens on Hobbit, Wonka, DI, GNR TS4, Houdini

#12 1 year ago

World poker tour

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#13 1 year ago

Torpedo Alley and Bad Cats also have under playfield features. Sinking ship.

#15 1 year ago

I mean I guess we can consider all of the Atari gamea....

#16 1 year ago

More: TSPP, Shaq Attaq, Monopoly, Spirit, Caveman, Gottlieb One on One prototype

Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:

Torpedo Alley and Bad Cats also have under playfield features. Sinking ship.

Those aren't displays, though--just lower playfield areas.

Quoted from truemagoo102:

I mean I guess we can consider all of the Atari gamea....

Technically, that's not an additional display. That's the primary scoring display.

#17 1 year ago

Fathom Mermaid Edition has the LCD screens in the apron in lieu of instruction and pricing cards. Rob Zombie had an official mod to replace the instruction card

I’m whatever about a display in the game (also Stern Star Wars and Batman 66), but I really like the idea of an instruction card that is dynamically updating.

Stranger Things projector is something unique too.

I love the idea of using little OLED screens as inserts instead of the typical mode inserts.

Also how has no one said P3? Gerry really needs to get to more shows.

#18 1 year ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

WoZ crystal ball, then LCD screens on Hobbit, Wonka, DI, GNR TS4, Houdini

I was kinda arbitrarily only thinking of actually built into the playfield not secondary displays above it. So wasn’t counting say TSPP either.

But any secondary display you can see without looking up could count I guess.

#19 1 year ago

Atari - The Atarians 1976 - Displays in the apron

#20 1 year ago

Black hole, haunted house, and spirit all have bonus displays in the playfield

Bit of a stretch, but some 60s williams like the El Toro I picked up have a score reel under the playfield plastics to display a changing award. Not quite a "display" but considering that their "score displays" we're also reels....

There's also stuff like Gottliebs Masquerade where they project different stuff onto the undersides of inserts in the playfield to change what they say

Quoted from ForceFlow:

zacaj's homebrew Poker game had small displays in front of drop targets.

24 mini displays and a regular 9" lcd display, gotta be the record

I think the Airplane! homebrew also used 2-3 separate phone sized lcds for stuff....

Greek Gods has a see through screen in its playfield with another playfield underneath the screen which I believe is a first

#21 1 year ago

What about whodunnit's slot machine in the playfield, does that count?

#22 1 year ago

Technically, Hot Line had an early dot matrix on the playfield, probably the first, that lights up the letters H-O-T-L-I-N-E in sequence as the lit rollovers in the matrix displaying each letter are completed.

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#23 1 year ago

'34 Rock-ola World's Series counted the outs on the playfield. Some say it was the first score reel.
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#24 1 year ago

Egghead and Square head have projected displays of X or O onto a plain insert on the playfield.

#25 1 year ago

Speaking of first “dot matrix” display, should it be Space Shuttle’s middle inserts? It does a countdown display effect.

#26 1 year ago

No one mentioned Circus Voltaire yet? Technically the display is on the pf.

And then you have the Pin2000 games as well.

#27 1 year ago
Quoted from Aurich:

I was kinda arbitrarily only thinking of actually built into the playfield not secondary displays above it. So wasn’t counting say TSPP either.
But any secondary display you can see without looking up could count I guess.

Whoa Nellie now enters the conversation if you have a microscope.

#28 1 year ago
Quoted from Yoko2una:

Whoa Nellie now enters the conversation if you have a microscope.

lol I forgot about that mini LCD screen

#29 1 year ago

P3 count? They probably do it best with ball tracking, no?

#30 1 year ago

Night Moves and Caribbean Cruise (International Concepts/Gottlieb, 1989)

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#31 1 year ago

I thought I saw a new game that was coming out or recently released has displays in the apron. I feel like it was the new Fathom Seawitch Mermaid game but I also could be making that up. And no I’m not googling it.

#32 1 year ago

Haven't seen Celts or Wheel of Fortune mentioned yet.

#33 1 year ago

Wheel of Fortune

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#34 1 year ago
Quoted from GoldenBeard:

I thought I saw a new game that was coming out or recently released has displays in the apron. I feel like it was the new Fathom Seawitch Mermaid game but I also could be making that up. And no I’m not googling it.

The Primus game has a LED scoring display on the apron.

#35 1 year ago
Quoted from Zablon:

The Primus game has a LED scoring display on the apron.

And now that I think about it

Simpsons Pinball Party has a display on the pf
Ripleys Believe it or Not does as well
So does Monopoly

#36 1 year ago

Starship Troopers.
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#37 1 year ago
Quoted from TreyBo69:

Also how has no one said P3? Gerry really needs to get to more shows.

Technically I said displays in that playfield, not displays that are the playfield.

#38 1 year ago
Quoted from FrankJ:

Gottlieb/Premier - Lights, Camera, Action 1989

Is that an actual display, or just a matrix of lamps with a mask?

I've never worked on one, and I couldn't tell from the photos of the underside of playfields.

#39 1 year ago
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#40 1 year ago
Quoted from sunnRAT:

Night Moves and Caribbean Cruise (International Concepts/Gottlieb, 1989)
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Ah shoot, just went I was thinking nobody mentioned it!!!

Quoted from dothedoo:

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A few months after Medusa! Good one

Also Flipper Football, first DMD under glass/on the playfield, just barely beating CV

#41 1 year ago

Not in the playfield, but close enough. Best execution of a display under the glass.

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#42 1 year ago

Does Hyperball count? Which I didn't realize Steve Ritchie created.

#43 1 year ago
Quoted from dirkdiggler:

Does Hyperball count? Which I didn't realize Steve Ritchie created.

I have to agree that I think Hyperball counts. I didn't realize there was a display in it until someone asked me to reproduce the driver board (that is custom / specific to Hyperball). The board has display driving circuitry in it and I couldn't figure out why it was on the driver board until I looked at some images and saw the display in the playfield.

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