Quoted from Mizzou0103:It also depends where you live. $80,000 a year doesn’t go as far in the northeast as it does in the Midwest and south. When an “inexpensive” house is $300k. Income doesn’t go as far.
It’s super unfair to be judgemental unless you know someone’s exact circumstances.
1) I live in the Northeast state, one with some of the heaviest tax burdens.
2) Not being judgmental. There are other paths in life to take when it comes to employment and not all of them start with college.
Quoted from Spencer:Sorry but I totally disagree. I mean if you want to be a doctor or lawyer, sure. That doesn't change the fact I work with people who could make hundreds more each week but care about smoking and socializing more.
Again, you bring up something I wasn't eluding to. I don't care about the few lazy people you know personally. I'm not even talking about people in general. I'm talking about the path towards well-paying jobs or jobs that provide a decent living wage.
That path is my subject. The path is more-difficult than it was 50 years ago.
Try to stay away from the couple of lazy kids you hate so much, sheesh. Not talking about the kids here.
Quoted from GreenMachine19:If you guys are done beating each other up.
I or my parents couldn’t afford college so I joined the military. After about 10 years of service, I moved to the private sector. I do very well working at a Nuclear Power Plant as in Instruments and Controls Specialist. My work in antiquated electronics translates perfectly into pinball repair.
Clearly not done yet. 
You made my point though, you couldn't afford college, made a different choice and were successful. Good for you, that's my entire point.
Quoted from ThePinballCo-op:Again, you bring up something I wasn't eluding to. I don't care about the few lazy people you know personally. I'm not even talking about people in general. I'm talking about the path towards well-paying jobs or jobs that provide a decent living wage.
That path is my subject. The path is more-difficult than it was 50 years ago.
Try to stay away from the couple of lazy kids you hate so much, sheesh. Not talking about the kids here.
LET ME SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU.....
Go to college/university and waste 5-10 years of your life and be in debt for ever.
Get at trade job, make more money than those college types, if you work hard...
SIMPLE ENOUGH for you to understand now??
Quoted from Spencer:LET ME SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU.....
Go to college/university and waste 5-10 years of your life and be in debt for ever.
Get at trade job, make more money than those college types, if you work hard...
SIMPLE ENOUGH for you to understand now??
So you won't answer the question, but you keep getting mad at me for giving an answer to something I wasn't asking. OK.
Instead you give a one-size-fits-all solution to the question you refuse to answer. But if you're giving a solution, that also means you admit there's a problem. Otherwise the solution in itself wouldn't make sense.
That's the weirdest "agree" I've ever read.
Quoted from ThePinballCo-op:So you won't answer the question, but you keep getting mad at me for giving an answer to something I wasn't asking. OK.
Instead you give a one-size-fits-all solution to the question you refuse to answer. But if you're giving a solution, that also means you admit there's a problem. Otherwise the solution in itself wouldn't make sense.
That's the weirdest "agree" I've ever read.
I don't care what the problem is, or if it even exists. Not for me to worry about.
Is it harder? how the hell would I know? I don't care. It doesn't matter anyway and doesn't change my FIRST post. You make for yourself with what you do. Don't want 30 years of debt, don't be a doctor. Kinda simple really.
Maybe you guys should go start a millenial bashing thread or something. This one was relatively friendly and informative until it got run off the road.
Quoted from SilverballSleuth:Wow guys - I thought the tote bag thread was stupid, but this? Oof.
Say's the guy to lazy to move or keep pumping quarters into the dryer.
Quoted from Spencer:I don't care what the problem is, or if it even exists. Not for me to worry about.
Is it harder? how the hell would I know? I don't care. It doesn't matter anyway and doesn't change my FIRST post. You make for yourself with what you do. Don't want 30 years of debt, don't be a doctor. Kinda simple really.
lol.
Me: The path to success is harder now than it was 50 years ago.
Spencer: TOTAL BULLSHIT! KIDS ARE LAZY! I wasn't given ANYTHING! I had to work for everything I have!
Me: OK good for you. The path is still harder than it was 50 years ago.
Spencer: Thanks for the history lesson. YOU CAN'T READ! I never went to college. I make more money than those who did!
Me: OK, that's nice. I'm talking about the path to success. Similar jobs/wages are harder to come by than 50 years ago.
Spencer: I WORK WITH LAZY PEOPLE WHO COULD MAKE MORE MONEY BUT THEY ARE LAZY!
Me: ......
Spencer: If you waste YEARS of life going to school and acquiring debt, yeah it's harder.
Me: OK, so we agree? It looks like we agree.
Spencer: Is it harder? How the hell would I know?
Literal quotes from our exchange. Funny stuff.
Quoted from Sinistarrett:Maybe you guys should go start a millenial bashing thread or something. This one was relatively friendly and informative until it got run off the road.
My original post has nothing to do with millenials. That's the best these guys can come up with to argue against someone who had nothing, worked hard and now has 20+ games.
Sorry I derailed the thread with my story of hard work. 
Quoted from ThePinballCo-op:lol.
Me: The path to success is harder now than it was 50 years ago.
Spencer: TOTAL BULLSHIT! KIDS ARE LAZY! I wasn't given ANYTHING! I had to work for everything I have!
Me: OK good for you. The path is still harder than it was 50 years ago.
Spencer: Thanks for the history lesson. YOU CAN'T READ! I never went to college. I make more money than those who did!
Me: OK, that's nice. I'm talking about the path to success. Similar jobs/wages are harder to come by than 50 years ago.
Spencer: I WORK WITH LAZY PEOPLE WHO COULD MAKE MORE MONEY BUT THEY ARE LAZY!
Me: ......
Spencer: If you waste YEARS of life going to school and acquiring debt, yeah it's harder.
Me: OK, so we agree? It looks like we agree.
Spencer: Is it harder? How the hell would I know?
Literal quotes from our exchange. Funny stuff.
Fine, we agree, its harder. Happy? Who cares, doesn't change a thing said. Jesus, go give your wife another mimosa, its mothers day after all.
Quoted from spikelou2:I break into houses and steal copper wire !
Hahahahaha!
Quoted from spikelou2:I break into houses and steal copper wire !
That's a tough living! Lots of new houses around here, second income maybe?
Quoted from Spencer:I enjoyed them thank you.
Oh and yeah, Canada and all....
Your right, I couldn't have worked hard in your part of the world.
Please do not take the self-rightous tone of my fellow countryman's response as being representative of Canadian folks. Talking about how hard he worked to get his pins and fancy watches? Vacations in Punta Cana? Probably drives a truck or some gas guzzling Hummer. Sounds pretty douchey to me.
Spence--this was a good thread before you started judging millennials. Give it a rest.
Quoted from wtuttle:Please do not take the self-rightous tone of my fellow countryman's response as being representative of Canadian folks. Talking about how hard he worked to get his pins and fancy watches? Vacations in Punta Cana? Probably drives a truck or some gas guzzling Hummer. Sounds pretty douchey to me.
Spence--this was a good thread before you started judging millennials. Give it a rest.
Please do not take the self-rightous tone of my fellow countryman's response as being representative of Canadian folks. Talking about how hard he worked to get his pins and fancy watches? Vacations in Punta Cana? Probably drives a truck or some gas guzzling Hummer. Sounds pretty douchey to me.
Spence--this was a good thread before you started judging millennials. Give it a rest.
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Quoted from Ben1981:by definition i'm a early millenial. nevertheless hard working in video production with enough disposable income to afford a NIB here and there. On top i even have a (working) wife and two kids good education is for free here, altough 50% income tax levels everything again
50% income tax!? Holy crap, I’m never complaining again.
Quoted from wtuttle:Please do not take the self-rightous tone of my fellow countryman's response as being representative of Canadian folks. Talking about how hard he worked to get his pins and fancy watches? Vacations in Punta Cana? Probably drives a truck or some gas guzzling Hummer. Sounds pretty douchey to me.
Spence--this was a good thread before you started judging millennials. Give it a rest.
Yeah your right, I'm a douche for working hard and driving a truck. How's welfare treating you?
Quoted from spikelou2:I break into houses and steal copper wire !
The old homes that had gas lighting. The pipe on the outside wall where it went in will have a small plate secured with two screws at the bottom. A conversion from when they stopped using gas lights and ran copper wire in the same pipe since it already went to the light fixtures.
Remove the plate. Tie a rope around the wires. Tie the other end to the bumper of your car. Drive off. You get all the wire fast. No breaking in and pulling out all the lines.
LTG : )
Disclaimer : I still hope to marry a rich lady. I heard fat, old, broke guys are in demand.
Quoted from Spencer:Yeah your right, I'm a douche for working hard and driving a truck. How's welfare treating you?
Welfare? Dude has two games in his collection worth retail $10K.
If you do well, congratulations, sounds like you do.
Why shit all over people? Do other people’s financial status effect you? Why do you care Mr. Moneybags?
Go spend time with your wife - it’s mother’s day.
I guess the old adage is true - money can’t buy happiness.
Im 35 & married with 4 kids. For 15 yrs I've been a coin-op route owner (jukes, pool tables, ATMs, etc). 4 yrs ago I opened a standalone Arcade & 2 yrs ago bought a share of a bowling alley.
Quoted from SilverballSleuth:Welfare? Dude has two games in his collection worth retail $10K.
If you do well, congratulations, sounds like you do.
Why shit all over people? Do other people’s financial status effect you? Why do you care Mr. Moneybags?
Go spend time with your wife - it’s mother’s day.
I guess the old adage is true - money can’t buy happiness.
Thanks for advise.
I'm sorry your so butt hurt I work hard.
Quoted from Spencer:If you want to waste years of your life going to school and having debt forever, yeah its harder.
If you want to waste years of your life... argue on pinside! 
I don’t know what everyone does but this is how much they make.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/lets-see-if-pinball-really-is-a-rich-mans-hobby
Quoted from Spencer:Hey everybody! Don't work hard, don't be happy about what you have. Be negative because smoking and being lazy is more important!!!
This reminds me, can the mods take another look at my feature request pretty please?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/off-topic-button-for-forum-posts
Quoted from Tuna_Delight:And ... GET OFF MY LAWN!
That too.
Quoted from Dee-Bow:If you want to waste years of your life... argue on pinside!
Eh, Nothing better to do then engage the imbecils...
I bought decent machines at the beginning that I fixed up - and upgraded over time. That allowed me to literally up my game - over the last 10 years.
I keep new money going into purchases low by selling machines -and using the cash for my new one so it's pretty self-sustaining now....(or close)
Quoted from wtuttle:Please do not take the self-rightous tone of my fellow countryman's response as being representative of Canadian folks. Talking about how hard he worked to get his pins and fancy watches? Vacations in Punta Cana? Probably drives a truck or some gas guzzling Hummer. Sounds pretty douchey to me.
Spence--this was a good thread before you started judging millennials. Give it a rest.
I'm still waiting to see a valid response to the fact I told a true story that I was once 18 living on someone's couch, busted my ass, no thanks to anyone else and now can afford the things I enjoy.
Clearly that's self-rightous. I do enjoy my watches though. 
Quoted from Spencer:I'm still waiting to see a valid response to the fact I told a true story that I was once 18 living on someone's couch, busted my ass, no thanks to anyone else and now can afford the things I enjoy.
Response: Good job, sir! Way to go!
Quoted from wtuttle:Please do not take the self-rightous tone of my fellow countryman's response as being representative of Canadian folks. Talking about how hard he worked to get his pins and fancy watches? Vacations in Punta Cana? Probably drives a truck or some gas guzzling Hummer. Sounds pretty douchey to me.
Spence--this was a good thread before you started judging millennials. Give it a rest.
Honestly, this post comes across a bit douchey and elitist too.
I robbed a couple of banks, kept my mouth shut and hoarded the loot.
I even got to watch an Unsolved Mysteries episode about me 
The statute of limitations has expired so now I am living up by buying pins with wild abandon 
My wife and I both started investing in our early 20s at our first, post college jobs.
Fast forward 20 years.
Neither my wife nor I purchase what we are capable of affording, including pinball machines. I own only one. We live well below our means. As a result, I could afford to own quite a few.
Instead, I sleep really well at night and look forward to an early retirement.
Quoted from irobot:The people who make credit cards retire to a house in Hawaii and the people who use credit cards retire to a trailer park in Trenton, New Jersey.
...born and raised in Trenton NJ. Don't know of any trailer parks though. Just the typical NE rustbelt blight.
Quoted from investingdad:... Neither my wife nor I purchase what we are capable of affording, including pinball machines. I own only one. ...
Which game do you own? Just curious, as it is an addictive hobby. I understand if you don't wish to say though.
Unlike most people here, I'm an electrical engineer. I live below my means, don't take (extravagant) vacations, and work hard. Oh yeah, I'm also single without any kids. 
No kids, 15 year old cars that I work on myself. Work hard save my money to get the things I want. And a wife who makes real money lol.
Quoted from spikelou2:I break into houses and steal copper wire !
Bahahaha
Don't leave the HVAC system behind though. You're leaving money on the table if so. If the windows are new you can take those too & sell em to other investor/flippers.
I just sell plasma, artificially inseminate pigs, and import/export fine latex products outside of my day job.
Quoted from JodyG:I just sell plasma, artificially inseminate pigs, and import/export fine latex products outside of my day job.
Is your day job with Kruger Industrial Smoothing? I hear they botched the Statue of Liberty contract
Quoted from ImNotNorm:Is your day job with Kruger Industrial Smoothing? I hear they botched the Statue of Liberty contract
Leaving that one off my resume helped me land the job with the Yankees.
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