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What coin plates did a 70's Williams EM machine come with?

By Otaku

7 years ago

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#1 7 years ago

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Otaku

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Hey guys, I just bought a very very nice 1972 Williams Super Star from a fellow Pinsider and it has a factory original "1 Krona" coin plate installed. This is Swedish currency.

What are the chances that it was re-imported back from Sweden here to the USA? Very cool. I know they came with an assortment of plates (I believe, or was it something you marked when ordering?) but would this plate have been included? Is there anywhere I can find an export stamp on these Williams machines like some Gottlieb games had? Not seeing any yet. Didn't check for any left over solder or anything on the lugs of the transformer yet either, haha. Detective work...

US power cord is not original. Obviously it could have just been replaced due to damage or wear like any other domestic-shipped machine now in a collector's home (pretty common), but just something to note before anybody asks.

Thanks guys! Did a search for Krona on eBay and found so many results from so many different years that I figured they must have a 1972-made (year the machine came out) Krona, so did a quick search and found one for $2 and ordered it since it was so cheap. Will be a cool display piece, even if it turns out the machine never left the US.

I was also going to grab the serial number and throw it in the serial number database to compare, but I have not done that yet.

#2 7 years ago

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KenLayton

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Yes, you've got a re-import machine. Usually there is a paper label attached to one of the mounting screws of the coin return cup assembly on the coin door. That label will say the name of the machine and destination country.

Domestic USA machines of that time period could be ordered by the route operator to be supplied with a single, twin, or triple chute coin door. Plus the operator could decide whether to have it shipped on two plays for a quarter or nickle-dime-quarter slots.

#3 7 years ago

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Otaku

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Quoted from KenLayton:
Yes, you've got a re-import machine. Usually there is a paper label attached to one of the mounting screws of the coin return cup assembly on the coin door. That label will say the name of the machine and destination country.
Domestic USA machines of that time period could be ordered by the route operator to be supplied with a single, twin, or triple chute coin door. Plus the operator could decide whether to have it shipped on two plays for a quarter or nickle-dime-quarter slots.

Awesome! I'll take a closer look at the coin door sometime soon and see if there's a label left.

Can't believe a machine could make it there, spend it's life there, and come back in such nice shape, I'll have to post some pictures later. Thanks Ken! Very very cool to know.

#4 7 years ago

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Luzur

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Well Pinballs are kinda "rare" here in Sweden + have a (kinda) smaller fandom then in the US so those machines that exist gets alot of love.

Kinda rare for machines to be sold abroad though, AFAIK its almost an unwritten law not to sell games abroad but to rather import more, original owner must have gotten a very good offer.

#5 7 years ago

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EMsInKC

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By 1972 most games were quarter only. I don't think we still had one game for a dime or two nickels by then, although my memory is probably faulty on this point. You could find older games that still were nickel/dime games, but new games coming out by then were quarters, two games, five balls. Later on in the seventies it went down to three balls.

#6 7 years ago

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dasvis

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Quoted from EMsInKC:
By 1972 most games were quarter only.

My 1976 Bally Old Chicago was factory setup for 2 plays for a quarter.

#7 7 years ago

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KenLayton

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Olympia, WA

12y 83,400 5,965

Last month I restored a Williams "Honey" that was a re-import from Sweden and it had the 1 Krona price windows in it. This game was in excellent condition.

Just last week I finished restoring a Bally 1972 "Fireball" and it was a re-import from Germany. Again, it was in excellent condition. I've never seen a Fireball in such beautiful shape.

I'm just about to finish restoring a 1961 Gottlieb "Aloha" which was shipped on nickle play. This is unusual because by 1961, just about all operators were on dime play on their machines.

#8 7 years ago

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Luzur

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Quoted from KenLayton:
Last month I restored a Williams "Honey" that was a re-import from Sweden and it had the 1 Krona price windows in it. This game was in excellent condition.
Just last week I finished restoring a Bally 1972 "Fireball" and it was a re-import from Germany. Again, it was in excellent condition. I've never seen a Fireball in such beautiful shape.

Yes, as i said, pinballs are kinda rare (and priced) enough to make people take care of them over here.

#9 7 years ago

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Otaku

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So, I took a look yesterday afternoon and somebody put

"SUPER STAR
DENMARK"

on the coin return cup assembly in permanent marker, likely where the label was before if there was one. Very very cool. Seems Denmark has a "Krone" and Sweden has a "Krona", but I believe they're different sizes. Maybe it was close to the border to where they wanted to accept the other currency, or maybe it was on location and owned in Sweden and just exported to Denmark due to port location or whatever. Interesting. Really would pinpoint the location in that case too.

The marker markings is in the next batch of pictures that I didn't upload yet, but here's some other only-slightly-older ones. This machine is in very nice condition.

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#10 7 years ago

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Luzur

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OP
Quoted from Otaku:
So, I took a look yesterday afternoon and somebody put
"SUPER STAR
DENMARK"
on the coin return cup assembly in permanent marker, likely where the label was before if there was one. Very very cool. Seems Denmark has a "Krone" and Sweden has a "Krona", but I believe they're different sizes. Maybe it was close to the border to where they wanted to accept the other currency, or maybe it was on location and owned in Sweden and just exported to Denmark due to port location or whatever. Interesting. Really would pinpoint the location in that case too.
The marker markings is in the next batch of pictures that I didn't upload yet, but here's some other only-slightly-older ones. This machine is in very nice condition.

My guess is that they simply didnt want to print extra labels, since back then Sweden had Krona, Denmark/Norway had Krone and i think Estonia had Krona too, so easy enough to simply use the same label = less printing expenses, my Jubilee is a Swedish import (stamps on the manual folder + piece of paper on the coindoor) but i have coin labels in both Swedish and Danish so i can switch around if i want too.

The pin could have been in rotation in Southern Sweden or Northern Denmark too, first imported to Denmark then sold around in that region of Scania-Copenhagen.

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