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What are your top 3 Williams 70s EMs?

By chuckwurt

5 months ago


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    “What are your top 3 Williams 70s EMs?”

    • Dipsy Doodle 1 vote
    • Straight Flush 5 votes
      2%
    • Solids and Stripes 1 vote
    • Doodle Bug 9 votes
      3%
    • Klondike 10 votes
      3%
    • Olympic Hockey 9 votes
      3%
    • Spanish Eyes 26 votes
      8%
    • Honey 3 votes
      1%
    • Super Star 4 votes
      1%
    • Fan Tas Tic 3 votes
      1%
    • Swinger 2 votes
      1%
    • Travel Time 7 votes
      2%
    • Fun Fest 1 vote
    • Gulf Stream 7 votes
      2%
    • Jubilee 0 votes
    • OXO 17 votes
      5%
    • Darling 1 vote
    • Triple action 8 votes
      3%
    • Dealers choice 7 votes
      2%
    • Sky Lab 9 votes
      3%
    • Strato Flite 8 votes
      3%
    • Star Pool 1 vote
    • Pat Hand 3 votes
      1%
    • Little chief 3 votes
      1%
    • Triple strike 11 votes
      4%
    • Toledo 0 votes
    • Space mission 31 votes
      10%
    • Aztec 17 votes
      5%
    • Grand Prix 58 votes
      18%
    • Blue chip 3 votes
      1%
    • Liberty bell 7 votes
      2%
    • Big Deal 10 votes
      3%
    • Hot Tip 14 votes
      4%
    • Ranchero 5 votes
      2%
    • Argosy 11 votes
      4%
    • 4 aces 2 votes
      1%

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    #1 5 months ago

    So I own Hot Tip, Grand Prix, and have an Argosy on loan.

    I was thinking I haven’t played a better set of Williams games ever.

    I owned Dipsy Doodle for years and years and loved it, but I think I’d take all of these over that at this point.

    That said, what are your top 3 and why especially if it’s not a common choice?

    #2 5 months ago

    Liberty Bell is awesome, it is basically a grand prix retheme or maybe grand prix was liberty bell retheme.

    #3 5 months ago

    Love my argosy. So it gets my vote.

    #4 5 months ago

    4 Aces isn’t on here! I picked one up because of the magnet feature. Never seen or played another EM with magnets in it!!! Very very cool.

    #5 5 months ago

    Some other good ones I forgot about when making the list:

    Pat hand
    Spanish Eyes

    Love those games.

    #6 5 months ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    4 Aces isn’t on here! I picked one up because of the magnet feature. Never seen or played another EM with magnets in it!!! Very very cool.

    Added! The doodle bug games have a magnet too. I was surprised so many EMs used them.

    #7 5 months ago

    Hey where’s my Gay 90s

    It does have some cool features — swinging target, gate, kickback, up post.

    #8 5 months ago

    I'm partial to my 1970 Jive Time.
    It's slow and that's what I like about it. Plus, it's a funky theme and orange. The random spinner on the head, is unique, too. It's a keeper in my collection for when I just wanna chill and hit a ball around.

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    #9 5 months ago

    I miss my Skylab, Doodlebug and Dealer's Choice.

    #10 5 months ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Added! The doodle bug games have a magnet too. I was surprised so many EMs used them.

    Where is the magnet? I couldn’t find a list of EMs that use magnets. At least the IPDB doesn’t denote any others using it.

    #11 5 months ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    Where is the magnet? I couldn’t find a list of EMs that use magnets. At least the IPDB doesn’t denote any others using it.

    Under the playfield. It’s the doodle bug feature. A captive ball is in there and once it starts running the magnet makes the ball run up and down scoring 10 or 100 or 1,000 or 10,000 depending on what you’ve accomplished.

    #12 5 months ago

    I’m tapped on choices! Dammit. Well I tried to grab all the game that were in mass production and clearly missed some. My bad.

    #13 5 months ago

    My top three Williams EMs are all Gottliebs

    If I was forced to own a Williams EM I would say Klondike Special (specifically for the artwork with the stinky bear), Honey (love the artwork for some reason) and that's it. The 60s Williams EMs were much prettier and more fun in my opinion. Never played a Williams EM that did anything for me gameplay wise, and the artwork is just so clearly inferior Gottlieb games.

    #14 5 months ago

    Gottliebs are great, but Williams has at least three that are amazing too. Haha

    But yeah, more based on gameplay than looks.

    #15 5 months ago

    Any reason you specifically are looking at 70s?

    #16 5 months ago
    Quoted from radial_head:

    Any reason you specifically are looking at 70s?

    Those are the ones I like and know the most about. I’ve played some awesome ones from the 60s when I visited VFW, but I’ve probably played less than 10 of them total.

    #17 5 months ago

    Dealers Choice, Space Mission/Odyssey, Grand Prix

    #18 5 months ago

    So far the survey is spot on. Spanish Eyes and Grand Prix are the best one player and multiplayer games hands down in my opinion. I once had a Liberty Bell because it looks a lot like Grand Prix, but the gameplay is nowhere near as good.

    Teachers Pet is my favorite 60s Williams...

    #19 5 months ago
    Quoted from MVCO:

    Dealers Choice

    Seen a couple for dealers choice. This always looked like hell to me. Gameplay really good then?

    #20 5 months ago

    I wanna say that the general consensus that if you're going for gameplay, Argosy, Dealer's Choice, and Spanish Eyes.

    Dealer's choice looks like a dog, but has at least an INVENTIVE gameplay.

    #21 5 months ago

    Can you go into more details? I’ve never played it.

    #22 5 months ago

    Honey, Superstar, and Triple Action. We had several Triple Actions on our route back in the day and they made good money.

    #23 5 months ago

    Found a dealers choice video. Triple bonus is a great feature, but kind of disappointing all the card targets do is light EB/special since I use EMs for tournaments a lot and those features don’t do me much good.

    #24 5 months ago

    From memories playing on these games when they were around in the 1970's, and also playing them more recently at shows, my three are:

    Triple Strike - One of my favourite EM games. Enjoyed trying to make all those ten roll-overs without draining.

    Grand Prix - My favourite multi-player EM. Great ripping those spinners!

    Spanish Eyes - A rather unusual and different backglass, and a good playing EM too, love the horseshoe and the bumper between the flippers!

    #25 5 months ago

    Space Mission
    Big Deal
    Triple Strike

    #26 5 months ago

    This one brings back some memories...Really caught the pinball bug back in 1974-75. People here that played on location in those days will remember that there was always a new game at your arcade every month. Be it Williams, Gottlieb, or Bally, and sometimes Chicago Coin. In that time period, Satin Doll was the game my friends and I would try and find as it was easy for us to master and play for a long time on a quarter. Followed closely by Toledo as we would smack that long bank of stand up targets with the upper flippers. I found out later that the stand up target bank on Toledo used flipper buttons for target faces instead of the flat stand up faces. Triple Action was fun, too. Of course, when Grand Prix came out it ran to the top of the list for us.

    Always enjoyed the clink, clink, clink of the Williams games when rolling over a row of lit 1000 point buttons!

    #27 5 months ago

    Great topic chuckwurt ! I’d like to add a couple EMs to the collection one of these days but have been a little overwhelmed with the quantity of them and want to make sure it’s a good one. I’ve had my heart set on a Segasa Prospector but haven’t had much luck finding one.

    #28 5 months ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Found a dealers choice video. Triple bonus is a great feature, but kind of disappointing all the card targets do is light EB/special since I use EMs for tournaments a lot and those features don’t do me much good.

    Grand Prix is definitely a good tournament game. We've used it many times here in Florida. Aside from being one player, Spanish Eyes is also a popular tournament game.

    To me I think of drop targets when I think of Gottlieb EMs, even though there are some great ones with no drop targets. For Williams I think of spinners, super strong pop bumpers and flippers. The action from the Williams pop bumpers is superb when they are rebuilt and tweaked. Apologies to the people suggesting Space Mission, but the Williams games I really don't like are the ones with the moving center target and the shooter holes in the slings. Those also don't make good tournament games. Further apologies, as I also don't like bowling games with the obligatory ten rollover targets representing pins.

    The other nice thing about Williams EMs is they are much easier to repair and troubleshoot issues than Gottliebs.

    #29 5 months ago

    Satin Doll was another good earner for us but is not on your poll.

    #30 5 months ago
    Quoted from KenLayton:

    Satin Doll was another good earner for us but is not on your poll.

    Pat hand is.

    #31 5 months ago
    Quoted from John_I:

    Grand Prix is definitely a good tournament game. We've used it many times here in Florida. Aside from being one player, Spanish Eyes is also a popular tournament game.
    To me I think of drop targets when I think of Gottlieb EMs, even though there are some great ones with no drop targets. For Williams I think of spinners, super strong pop bumpers and flippers. The action from the Williams pop bumpers is superb when they are rebuilt and tweaked. Apologies to the people suggesting Space Mission, but the Williams games I really don't like are the ones with the moving center target and the shooter holes in the slings. Those also don't make good tournament games. Further apologies, as I also don't like bowling games with the obligatory ten rollover targets representing pins.
    The other nice thing about Williams EMs is they are much easier to repair and troubleshoot issues than Gottliebs.

    Oh yeah. Grand Prix will never leave. Perfect tournament game.

    Surprised at the lack of Hot Tip love. Such a good game. The captive ball is so satisfying and the drop targets rules are way better than Grabd Prix.

    #32 5 months ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Surprised at the lack of Hot Tip love. Such a good game.

    Funny I have never seen or played that game. It looks really great. Dang, now I have a game to hunt for!

    #33 5 months ago
    Quoted from John_I:

    Funny I have never seen or played that game. It looks really great. Dang, now I have a game to hunt for!

    Hell yeah! That’s my goal with this thread. Get everyone thinking about a Williams EM they didn’t previously think about.

    #34 5 months ago

    This is a great thread chuckwurt. Thanks for starting it.

    #35 5 months ago

    I’ve had a Hot Tip, Argosy, Space Odyssey, and Aztec. They’re all really good for the most part. I think Hot Tip might be the best?

    I really like Space Odyssey besides how easy the extra ball is and how the game doesn’t have 5 score reels. It’s not that hard to roll over 199, especially with the extra balls. Favorite art package for sure. Also the clear favorite of novice players and non-pin head guests at my house. We need more swinging target games!

    Argosy is a unique layout. I think the upper left corner is a bit of a wasted space, but it’s solid overall. I really like shooting the gate open with an alley pass as a pro move that can advance the drops from the lowest value. And it’s classic whenever the ball goes up the roll over, closes the gate, and drains lol.

    Aztec is a super solid spinner game and the right kick out can be worth decent points if you luck into some letters. If the letters were worth more points they’d be worth shooting (besides the ones to lit double bonus and the spinner). That center target blows. Lite the EB, shoot it and it is SDTM. The DC pops and slings are great on this game. I have some issues with the artwork on the game.

    Hot Tip is a great loaded playfield. I’ve been working on a P3ROC retheme of it because the layout is so good IMO. It gets a bit dull after the spinner gets lit.

    I love Grand Prix for the most part although I don’t like games so symmetrical. Would like one in my collection though

    I’d love a Spanish Eyes. Holes under the flippers? That’s the kind of savagery I want.

    I also had a Pat Hand and Dealers Choice at one point. Can barely even remember having them lol

    #36 5 months ago

    Im happy to see Im not the only person to like OXO. I think its a great game!

    #37 5 months ago

    I currently own space mission an have played it a lot in 4 years.
    I owned a stratoflite that was fun as well.
    Not sure they are top games but definately lots of fun.

    #38 5 months ago

    I've always considered myself a Williams fan but mostly focused on the 60s games. There are a bunch of 70s games I've never played. I'd love to put some time on a Rancho, Argosy, Hot Tip, Wild Card or Big Deal.

    I had Space Mission and Grand Prix. Both seem to get a fair amount of respect. With that said I wasn't a huge fan of the slot kickers on Space Mission. I think it would be so much better without them. Grand Prix is fast and fun but so spinner heavy it can get a little repetitive after some time.

    Right now I seem to like 50s Gottliebs, 60s Williams and 70s Ballys the best.

    #39 5 months ago

    Grand Prix
    Space Mission / Odyssey
    Gulfstream / Tropic Fun

    #40 5 months ago

    Only 3 votes for Hot Tip?! Really?! I have owned alot of EMs and Hot Tip crushes them all. It's the only keeper (EM pins) besides Spooksville in my collection. Spinner,
    6 drop targets, captive ball, 2 kick out holes.

    #41 5 months ago

    I played a lot of Triple Strike, but I don’t remember if it was a first choice or something to play when a more popular game was occupied.

    Rolling over lit orange buttons was fun.

    #42 5 months ago

    I loves me some Argosy and Grand Prix - but I might put Wild Card up there too.

    #43 5 months ago

    Grand Prix is a lot of fun, especially when you have multiple players, competing, but I love the progressive drop target scoring on my EM hot tip, along with the bonus building and captive ball and It is one of my keepers. I've noticed that the SS version seems to get less love.

    #44 5 months ago

    Outside of the games I knew would get the most love, it looks like I need to check out OXO!

    #45 5 months ago

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    #46 5 months ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Outside of the games I knew would get the most love, it looks like I need to check out OXO!

    OXO is a fun game. Very fast, lots to shoot for, and some pretty good strategies. We like the Christian Marche artwork, but not everybody does.

    #47 5 months ago

    I have never heard of or seen argosy before, I love when that happens. Did they make a lot of them ? Why is it in the top 3 ?

    #48 5 months ago
    Quoted from ataritoday:

    I have never heard of or seen argosy before, I love when that happens. Did they make a lot of them ? Why is it in the top 3 ?

    Over 2k made. Last EM by Williams I believe. Great asymmetric layout with decent drop target rules, spinner abs 3 slings.

    Very challenging/rewarding single lane up top that’s crucial for scoring big.

    #49 5 months ago

    Aztec is by far the best Wms pin I've ever played. Out of a fairly large line up
    here, its my wifes fave ad gets played a lot. Fast, lots of features and nice
    artwork too. My other votes go to Spanish Eyes (great artwork) and OXO.
    Steve

    #50 5 months ago

    I kept looking for Sound Stage, then I realized it’s a Chicago Coin. I love any spinner EM, but I fell in love with Argosy at PAPA many years ago.

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