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What are your thoughts on the Spike II system?


By LoserKid3

1 year ago



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Post #26 A report from an operator and a life cycle expectation. Posted by xTheBlackKnightx (1 year ago)

Post #215 Things to consider from a senior technician’s perspective. Posted by xTheBlackKnightx (1 year ago)

Post #262 Words of expierence and a warning. Posted by xTheBlackKnightx (1 year ago)


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#39 1 year ago
Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

Research shows the lifecycle of these SMT boards is less than 10 years of route operation, materials and construction. After that, they are toast, and the game is trash

Lol, what "research"?
Sorry, but I feel like these games will last and not all just die at the 10 year mark.
But there is only really one thing that will show who is right, 10 years.
My Game of Thrones pin is holding up fine 3+ years into operating, but for some reason in 7 years it's trash?
Also, the transistors are NOT surface mount on Node boards, and that is what usually fails on pinball machines, so they are somewhat serviceable.

#44 1 year ago
Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

Design Guidelines for Surface Mount Technology
by John E. Traister

Nah, I'll pass on the heavy reading from 1990 and just take your word.
I guess all my games are doomed, better keep them earning so I can throw them away in a few years and get new ones.

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#175 1 year ago

11 Iron Maiden on location in CO, not sure how many home owners, but probly less than half that.
Also, many home guys are dabbling with routing their machines, what does that count as?

#191 1 year ago

If stern priced the CPU and node boards as cheaply as everyone here thinks they should, the parts for a pinball would probly be less than the cost of a whole machine.
That wouldn't make sense.
I operate several spike and spike2 games, and have never had to buy any of this.
Not sure why the big concern about it. Fear of what "might" happen keeping you from buying awesome machines?
Oh well, please come play mine on location!

#199 1 year ago
Quoted from merccat:

Makes sense to me as you’re not just buying a box of parts. Your buying the art package, the layout, the cabinet, the playfield, the theme, the code, the assembly, the markup, etc. Replacing cost for one system in that shouldn’t cost as much as the whole package.

Well, replacement for the board doesn't cost as much as the whole package.
Not sure on the cost of a populated PF, or a wired cabinet, but if you could add those and the board cost and it equaled less than a new game....
You know guys would be building their own.

#225 1 year ago

Love all the fortune-telling in this thread!
But if you can throw some good tech-talk behind it, you might win!
How does anyone know what technology will be like in the future? They dont.
How does anyone know how long a board will last? They don't.
How does anyone think they look smart acting like they know these things? They...
Well, you get the picture. How many games, over all the years of pinball (electronic era, for discussion) have become obsolete, especially one from a major manufacturer?
Personally, I ran into an Atari Middle Earth that compenents and boards were too hard to get working well, and made it go away. Other than that, Everything has been fixed!
I find it impossible to think that all these Sterns are self-destructing in an irreparable way in 10, 20, or whatever number makes you scared, years.

#230 1 year ago
Quoted from hocuslocus:

also no-one said 10 years was the definite shelf life, obviously electronics can and do last a lot longer. I

I must have misunderstood...

Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

Research shows the lifecycle of these SMT boards is less than 10 years of route operation, materials and construction. After that, they are toast, and the game is trash.

#247 1 year ago

Nicely said, hocus
Much better than the gloom and doom some speculate of

#339 1 year ago

WOW!
From the sounds of it, Stern has at least pulled in 5-10k gross off this node board scheme...
Well played...

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