Are you needing the round reels or the plastic cover that goes over the reels? Pinball Rescue makes the playfield reel plastic cover if that’s what you’re looking for.
http://www.pinballrescue.net/Plastics_Klondike.html

This is on Ebay if you need it.
Williams Klondike & Yukon Instruction Manual & Schematic

I think that is who he used now that you mention their name, it was for the gun recoil; I believe he supplied the required spec's and they custom made it for him.

Just came up from working on my Stern Rawhide.

When you hit the captive ball's target it would still trigger the relay but not everything was closing correctly to advance to the 2nd or 3rd level. Not so bad when 500 or special is lit but hate missing out on that 5,000 shot. So I got that adjusted so your odds of stepping up are almost 100%.

I also had some dirty wipers on my ball count so even though I had it set to 3 balls I was still getting 5 balls per game. Got that fixed too.

The 1000's unit was really sticky on player 2 so sometimes you'd miss out on a couple K every now and then, so I got that fixed.

For future tournament play I also cut the wire on extra ball relay to disable extra ball. Don't worry it's right at the coil lug and easily reversible.

I have a few other minor things to adjust and player 3 and 4 should have their reels cleaned but they don't stick incredibly bad and we usually don't have 3 or 4 player games running here on a regular basis. I think the 3rd player 100,000 light is out but I'm too tired to play around with backglasses this late at night.

Almost finished with this project.

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Beautiful! Love it!

You can get a decal from 'down under' and repaint your existing apron.
Good luck!

I bought a 1953 United Leader Shuffle Alley 2 years ago for $50 at an auction. Everything was froze up, wheel contacts corroded, wafer contacts bent out of shape, burned out lights, half the pins missing or cracked, and shorts/broken wires. Been fun working on something I know nothing about. Played a 6 player game to completion the other night. Does anyone else have a United Shuffle Alley?

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Did you say United? Why yes I do - I also have made many videos during it's rebuilding (link below picture)
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKBzlsEWMlPKNVRIHPr3cjAtAqjoL4dCK

I have 2 Bally EM games. Old Chicago and Capt. Fantastic. They were both produced in 76, with Capt. coming out first. I have a question about the behavior seeing as they are both late model EMs from Bally, but have different behaviors.

Old Chicago will only put 5 maximum credits on the credit unit. You can keep clicking the coin switch, but no more credits will be added. Capt. Fantastic will let you keep adding credits until the wheel is maxed (I think 25 is max).

If you add a credit, during a game, Capt. Fantastic goes to game over, no matter where in the game you were or what player was up. Old Chicago will accept the credit and play on.

Not sure if this is correct or if one of them is not working right or both?

*I know I can rig free play, but I like to drop coins in my games.

Right before the lockdown I picked up a original owner, HUO Jungle Queen. It was purchased for a husband in early '78 and was never moved from the room it was originally set up in. It is so amazingly clean with zero wear anywhere on the playfield. I'm going through and cleaning all the mechs now. My first EM! So excited.
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Great game. I'm on the lookout for one, as well. Congrats on finding such a nice one.

Congrats, and a fun game too!

There is probably a pin on the credit wheel that can be removed (unscrewed) and moved to a different spot on the wheel gear shaft to allow more credits to be won or paid, some operators were stingy or afraid of some pinball wizard, raping their games. That pin acts as a stop for more credits, to probably open some switch which disables the credit unit from adding more.

Thanks. I'll compare the 2 credit units for that pin position. Sounds like one anomaly solved.

Nailed it!

That was it. Little metal pin can be screwed into one of four options. 5, 10, 15 and 25 credits. Moved that to the 25 option and Old Chicago goes all the way to the end of the credit wheel. One mystery solved.

Thanks.

Where do you guys get your relays? I need to get a couple that are burnt. Thanks!
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Coils?

Pinball Resource is your best bet. If not Marco Specialties.

Alberto

North Star, repopulating the playfield right now, really looking forward to playing it!!

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I think the Capt Fan coin up operation is normal,
but it does differ from game to game (and Mfr to Mfr and era to era)
I have noticed this over the years,
possibly some variants due to an owner/operator hacks
but also maybe how the coin door and adding credits is set up by factory.

I have noticed that prior to a game actually being started by launching a ball onto the PF,
one should be able to add additional coinage to gain more credits and/or
press the replay button to add more players (up to 4max).
But once a game is started with ball launched onto the PF, (and some minimum points scored)
if someone on purpose or accidentally hits the replay button, it can on some games
set the machine into a game over, then start up new game sequence action.
Normally any coins added during a current ongoing game is rejected back to the player thru the coin return chute
because there is a coil activated on the coin door that by default rejects new coinage during game play.

It is a bit weird that Old Chicago, being a Bally and also being from the same era
behaves different that the Capt Fan.

Yes, coils, sorry. I needs some continuous duty coils (A-9736, A-9738, A-9740). Would any of you in the know recommend using a A-16890 with 2 1N4004 diodes to convert to half wave DC?
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$50.00 CoVid-19 project. Cleaning it up and getting excited. Said it had electrical issues. Found that problem the wire nut on the plug wire had come undone. Put it back together and turned right on.

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Anyone know what voltage a 22-500 coil runs on? Common coil for the gun recoil on Twin Rifle and Twin Skeet Shoot. Looks to be the same physical size as the J-501 I need for the Davy Crockett games, just don't know if that's 100V coil as well....

Waiting on PBR for flipper bushings, coil sleeves, rubber, new caps, Total restore, about 160 hours in it over last 3+ weeks.
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Great looking cabinet on that pin. The green is so unique.

Bravo sir! Bravo!

By the way pretty sure Old Chicago came out a couple of months before Capt Fantastic. I worked in a large arcade at the time and I remember opening up the box of a Capt after the arcade closed for the night. Old Chicago had already been their for a while. Mr. Pinball price guide has Old Chicago coming out April of 76 and Capt Fantastic coming out June of 76. Aladdin's Castle (4155) and a early version of Freedom (100) (4980) came in between Old Chicago (7155) and Capt fantastic (15,440). Between April and July maybe into August Bally produced around 32 thousand pinball's. That factory must have been goin full tilt. A side note. Capt Fantastic was my first new in the box pin. After playing the one in the arcade I had to have one. The arcade was called Gizmo's. It was the largest arcade in a shopping mall at the time. A couple of years after Gizmo's opened a arcade somewhere in California took the top spot. All the games Bally made during this time where great.

That is one great looking pin. Very impressive,

Very nice. That cabinet needed some major work. Love the photo spread documentation.

You really did a super nice job on this game... you're also a quick restorer... probably would have taken me double that to complete. Game looks incredible!

You are correct. I mixed up the timeline even after double checking IPDB. I wonder if the game ending upon a credit being added was a feature they added or if Capt. is malfunctioning. It also doesn't seem to work when setting the credits per coin correctly either.

Great story about getting NIB Capt. Fantastic. The most produced EM ever.

Playfield touchups mostly done on Rocket. Glad I had enough of the correct paint left to do it. Now I'll let it dry thoroughly, lightly sand it, finish up the black outlines, and then spray it.

This one was easy! Not bad for a 60 year old pinball machine. Darn thing's older than me.
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Testor's oil based model paint. And it's all done by hand with the different brushes. I have to do a lot of mixing to get colors and shades that are close. Sometimes better than others. Had a little practice with this stuff when I was young. Takes quite a while to dry before I even consider sanding.
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Cleaning 2 switches on the credit relay and game over relay resolved the issue where adding a credit in game would end it. Woot.

Can I ask how come oil and not water based?

Started in on my Gigi. Right now just assessing everything. I did get the artwork traced for stencils.

This one might have set a record for the number of names carved on one side of the cabinet. I think there's five different names on there.

These are all before except I have cleaned up the motor a bit and the ball lift mechanism. One thing for sure, the plywood used in the early 60s was superior to what was used later on.

Does anyone know when Gottlieb quit painting over the striker plate for the front door? I had a Bank A Ball and that was painted also. Saved me ordering a new one from PBR, I'll just clean it up and reinstall and paint with the cab. Pedestal was coming apart, I've reglued that and it's now solid. The backglass was bad, bgresto to the rescue. I haven't received it yet but Steve sent me the finished artwork, going to be beautiful

Fortunately the bumper caps are in good shape. I'll just have to touch up the numbers a bit. You'd go broke with 14 caps on this game. The bumper bodies are all trash but fortunately those a relatively cheap.

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Looks like you have a pretty nice example to start with I'm sure it will look incredible when done.
In regards to your question about coin door strike plates. Without looking it up, I would say maybe when they switched over to automatic ball lift mechanism? Like 1967?

Very nice restoration. As you may know, it's important to install a simple reinforcement bracket or chain to prevent the backbox animated ball assembly from slipping down.

That slippage, inevitable from normal use, is what causes the plastic balls to crack. It's an easy and essential preventative fix.

Well the original was probably oil based, but main reason is it comes in theses handy little jars that I can buy just a few blocks from here. At least I used to be able to.

And a guy known as "The Brush" who works for Herb Silvers showed me this is what he uses. Real nice guy that brush.

Missing Davy Crockett gun recoil coil problem resolved! Andrew from APB was able to remake the coil. I just picked them up this afternoon, installed, and they fit and work perfectly! Love it!

If anyone else is in need of a J-501..... or many others, Andrew is the man.

Now to get the other 3 up and running.....

Clearcoat finally done on Snow Derby.

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Assembly...getting there.

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Just finished debugging and tuning my Bank A Ball restoration.

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Back together. Time for play testing and tweaking.

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Lovely! How I miss my Funland!

Started on the old Sure Shot today. One of my favorite EM's to play.

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