Whoa nelly. Big juicy melons: I'd love to play one, have to find it first.

Not to be a fly in the ointment, but this is like asking "which pizza topping is best on Tuesdays?"

Very subjective and arbitrary and is something that is constantly changing from day to day.

I think that's the point of the thread. What are you buzzing about right now?

Although it would be cool to have a list of the most relevant games of all time. Game Feature firsts, designer firsts, unique historical relevance. Ect.

FT= fishtales

You could argue that the Forum Buzz section on the Forum homepage answers this question. TZ is the current most talked about game.

I think these games with GNR shouldn't be on the same list as the others. These just aren't talked about as much as those newer games and it doesn't feel like the P3 has the same amount of buzz as the other newer games.

You just asked a bunch of different questions there.

Anyways, I don't see how any EM or early SS game could be called relevant today.

"Relevant" just seems like an odd word to use. All pins are relevant to pinball. The ones I own are most relevant to me. The ones I can't afford are not relevant.

Relevant? The only machine I know with a relevant is The Pinball Circus

Not sure I get the list. It's mostly all the new pins with a few old ss games. I don't think IM is any more relevant than say LOTR or any other Stern game. I would be more interested in what pins were most important in the history of pinball. Pins that brought pinball into the mainstream, saved pinball from extinction, first with a feature, or just sold the most units.

TAF!

RELEVANT to who, OP? The collector community? Quarter-drop players? Game manufacturers? Makers of aftermarket parts? Solid state enthusiasts and the vendors who support us?

Every pin is "relevant" to someone. I really don't understand what you're asking.

Title with the most machines made!

Humpty Dumpty. The game that started the flipper trend.

High Speed and Space Shuttle. Saved pinball from a slow death in the mid 80's

The idea is clear....it is just that the idea is obtuse in nature.

Okay, I'll play:

Black Knight - first game with ramps (?)
RFM - Only pin with video targets
TSPP, LOTR - first pins that showed that Stern was going to be okay
GNR - strippers on playfield

I'd like to see a thread about the most irelavant titles. You could fill it up with a lot of the recent games.

The most irrelevant voting poll came down to a tie between Striker Xtreme and WWE.

Winner.

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I'd have to say Metallica Pro or Premium. So many people like it for different reasons. Still in high demand since it came out. I would interested to know why it wasn't in a arcade if I walked in.

My top 10 pinball relevancy list:
Now, current, always, and in order IMHO (warning, long):

1. Capcom Kingpin. Because there is no debating a pinball that people pay over $45,000 for, willingly. If only Capcom stuck out pinball until 1998, pinball history would be unquestionably different. 8 confirmed units exist, maybe 9.

2. Capcom Bing Bang Bar. See #1--just a lighter version due to the 160 thereabouts repros in addition to the 15 or so originals. "Ooo...a little to the left." Would have flown in Europe.

3. Some Dutch pinball company...The Big Lebowski. The most anticipated game in the last 2-3 years, and now it's on the bubble and may never happen. This would be bad.

4. Bally Cactus Canyon...the last Bally/Williams full size pinball, ever, deserves a place here. Game is cool too, but I guess the software was never finished, or so I have heard.

5. Stern ACDC Premium. The pin brought in a lot of newbies, perhaps more than any other pin this decade, and is a quality game as far as most are concerned. First great sound on a rock pin. Note: Rating is for Premium only. Pro EXCLUDED from top 1,000 - the stationary target overload destroys it that bad..

6. Williams Flash. The first, Williams Steve Ritchie is also the first Williams system 7 pinball. If you were age 7 when this came out, which I was, then you get it. The first Williams title that made Bally say "Oh No!"

7. Williams High Speed. Because NONE of us would be playing any new pinballs right now if it were not for this title. This title, in 1986, and being the first Williams system 11 pinball, saved pinball. It saved it. Video games had won! I watched arcades go from 10 pins and 4-5 EM gun games./vids in 1978....to...13 video games and 2 pins by 1984. It was over. The end was near. Then, "dispatch this is 504, suspect ran a red light over."

8. Jersey Jack Pinball Wizard of Oz. Gave the masses something else new, when pinball needed something else new! Not a huge fan, but the game has grown on me over the years, and definitely is deep, and the designers reached--3 way multiball flips (weak, reverse, and no save) are incredible innovation, and this title achieved for the most part.

9. Bally Centaur. 5 Multiballs in 1981, auto-launched too. Game has a coolness factor to it that cannot be done by anyone other than Bally. Top 5 in price and value for the manufacturer to this day, 34 years later.

10. Bally Addams Family: More units made than any other pinball title, and it is fun, humorous, great ruleset for the time, and let's you hear Raul Julia's voice more than you heard it in all his movies combined, 20 times over. And he passed shortly after. Watch that yeyyo Raul. It's a great game, and always will be.

Always go with the first ten that pop into your head:
Honorable mention: Bally Fireball, Bally Paragon, Bally Flash Gordon, Williams Firepower 1, Gottlieb Target Alpha and it's 8 sisters, Williams Monster Bash, Gottlieb Black Hole, and Stern Metallica.

Now tear me apart, by all means.

Eight ball deluxe should be on the list.

Try Gottlieb Roller Coaster

Kingpin, BBB and TBL are the least relevant pins I could possibly imagine.

First pin with ramps the player can shoot? First game that laughed at you?

Gorgar first machine to talk

For me nothing can touch Aliens, coolest theme to date and long over due for a pin.

First game with ramps was Marble Prince.

http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=5122

First flipper game with a ramp was Skyway.
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?gid=2206

Pretty ironic when you think about it as Striker Xtreme is probably the most relevant game of the 21st century as it came out right after all the others stopped making pinball machines.

Heck, I'd be excited to just to see a pinball arcade...

I've been playing Firepower and Riverboat Gambler in the basement lately - so that's what is relevant to me these days.

-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or for my Pinball 2000 H+V video sync combiner

Now THAT is something I'd love to see a remake of. Beautiful!

ONLY THING Relevant... According to center flank... Tron

I have seen and played this game. Buy with confidence!

More relevancy. Ballyhoo pinball machine. 50,000 units produced. Good luck with that in today's hardly relevant pinball market.

http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?gid=4817

What about Predator? Massively influential in the current pinball market.

Man marble prince looks like a work of art.

Brokers tip first with tilt
Wizard first licensed movie theme
Spirit of 76 first ss
Checkpoint first dmd
The Addams family best selling
The twilight zone most modded
Revenge from mars most high tech

I would say SMVE is very relevant...good chance that it will pull $$$ away from some of these other new titles.

Whatever stern puts out next as there just about the only ones making them anymore

I thought it was Space Shuttle that saved pinball, not High Speed.

I thought video killed the radio star.

Not quite.

http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?gid=4817

Swords of Fury!! Hah