More than lights. GI lights, feature lights, displays.

Hard to say easy fix or money pit.

LTG : )

Price out new boards and displays. Then you'll no worst case scenario if things can't be fixed.

LTG : )

That, along with, "it's just a fuse", or "its just a quick fix". Don't believe stuff like that. There's probably some some other things going on. There usually are.

I usually sink about $350-$600 into repairing & refurbishing a game. It will be more if you buy brand new boards and displays.

Personally, I think $800 is too much for that game without showing that it can boot and play.

I disagree with all the above. Great game to learn repair on, a wealth of information is available for this era, as well as parts, and it’s a ton of fun to play.
I can’t count how many times I’ve picked up a “dead” Bally like that one and given it a slap and a kick and it boots right up. They’re not real hard to fix, once you know what you’re doing.

If you have “noob abilities” as you say, I would steer clear of a project pin. It could be a simple fix or something much more. I’d spend slightly more and buy a fully working pin. If you’re up for a challenge and learning experience: go for it!

Could just need some repining. I would start with the $89 rectifier board, but you have to be able to solder. Also recrimp all those connections. See what issues you still have. Rectifier should clean up a lot of the light issues. Maybe some othe recrimping of connectors. These are pretty straight forward to work on. Worst case mpu $200, solenoid $180, displays $250 or so. Great game though.

I would buy that game for $800, that's a great game.

Fantastic game! Hope you can get it working.

If it was closer I would say run and I would buy it.

These are very fun to work on. It's like an old car there is plenty of room to get in there and very straight forward. I say go for it.

I agree, from the images it cosmetically looks great. and it's a terrific game.

Ask for a pic of the boards & post them here. if badly corroded battery on MPU your probably looking at least $200 for an ultimate MPU + re-pinning a good few trifuricons https://www.allteksystems.com/alltek-products-ultimate-mpu-board.html

If just starting to corrode maybe $20.oo for a NVRAM board https://www.pinitech.com/products/5101_nvram.php

When you go look pull the fuses and ohm them. Look for burnt connectors. Lift the playfield and look for any burnt coils or wires or light sockets that look bad. Honestly a new rectifier and some recrimping will take care of a lot if not all.

I agree. When i got my first game, I didn't even know how to put the ball in it. I am certainly no expert, but I learned alot by working on my machines with the help of some great Pinsiders. Don't let it overwhelm you. LOTS of help on Pinside

I don't think you would hurt yourself by buying this game and giving it a shot. Like mentioned, it re-pinning crappy IDC connectors on these ballys can fix many things. If it don't work out for you and you are over your head, some other guy will buy it from you.

I'd probably go $350 at most. $800 is a bit steep.

i would buy that in a heartbeat, people want $300 for a backglass. $800 for the entire game in that shape is good.

Well, at minimum you are looking at re-pinning everything and rebuilding / replacing the power supply board. That is a Stern solenoid driver board, which isn't bad. But it isn't original and means someone else was in there before you. I hate repairing someone's 'quality' repair. I would absolutely make sure the AC voltages coming into the power supply board are correct. At minimum, you know you have a good transformer. The pins, rectifiers and fuse holders are going to be marginal. But if the AC is correct, the rest is obtainable and not very expensive.

Personally, I would offer $500. It is a good learning experience to repair and get up and running. You are going to put $300 into the machine between rubbers, bulbs, repair parts and miscellaneous stuff that comes up along the way.

Worst case and you had to replace all boards and displays it would cost around $800 for all the new parts.

Pretty rare that would be needed.

Geez, I'd happy buy this for $800.

Can't really tell for sure. But looks like a burnt connector on the rectifier board. I'd start there

Buy it. Cosmetically it looks pretty good. It’s a fun game and if you’re the one that gets it working, playing it will be even more enjoyable.
Project pins are good for your soul!

I would be getting this battery removed ASAP! Can’t believe it hasn’t leaked.

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It depends on what your end goal is with this game:

If it were running and in decent shape, it would be worth about 1500. At best, you need a new connector, nvram, rubbers, and probably re-pinning. You may need new boards, displays, etc as well.

Look especially hard at the boards for any signs of acid damage or loose pins. Look for anything missing or burnt.

There are a lot of "ifs" here.
I would certainly try to get it for less. You could easily be into it for what you could just go buy a working pin for.

If you are looking for a pinball to re-sell, this probably isn't for you. If you are looking for something to learn how to work on pins (and you can spend the time on it), and you think you will keep it and play it...then go for it.

To me, I would check the back glass for flaking or missing paint and check the playfield for wear (around inserts not the stupid shooter lane...) if those are nice, you can fix the rest and I would take a chance!

Like mentioned, games from this era are super easy to fix most of the time.
I'd go for it if your looking to learn, $800 is a descent price for a project globetrotters.
Just keep in mind, getting a game like this to play well/reliably is usually a big undertaking.
Especially if you've never done one.

Most of my early SS games I put way more into them (hours, $), then I'd ever get selling them.

make sure you got some cash left over for all the tools (unless you already have them) I personally think the best part of pinball is fixing them

It did leak. There is a large area of battery damage to the left and right of the battery. All that discoloration is corrosion.

That's probably the main problem right there as to why the game won't boot.

Don’t do it for $800
Playfield has big wear spot from what I can see
Also repairing may be hard as you are newby

Offer $600 and give you some room for parts / boards and possible prof repair guy

Yeah, that's a pretty big eye sore that would drastically affect the value of the game.

Thankfully it’s an area of solid colors, not oddball textures and people.

This could be a decent opportunity for OP to also learn color matching and touch ups (as long as willing to do it the right way and not use Sharpies).

My first game DE Simpsons had wear in all the non Mylar major offending areas and I spent a lot of time making that game look so nice with the art, people never questioned it. This HG looks substantially easier to touch up.

Some frisket paper, xacto knife and an airbrush would fix the wear spots in a jiffy. Any noob can do it with a little patience.

That’s weird about the wear spot on the playfield because I don’t see any wear around the inserts. The spinners look nice. Hard to tell with the backglass. I see maybe a scratch but no major chunks of art missing. It appears to be in pretty decent shape cosmetically but it is hard to tell from pictures.

Aside from what has already been mentioned about the alkaline damage on the MPU and the burned connectors on the rectifier board (just replace the rectifier board for $50 from barakandl https://nvram.weebly.com/new-pcbs.html , replace and repin rectifier connectors) I would want to know if all of the plasma displays are working with no burn marks before I paid upwards of $800 for it.

This would be a good project pin to learn on, if that is something you might enjoy or some skills that you want to learn.

I agree. I find working on pins just as rewarding as playing them. And there are many people here on pinside that can help if you get stuck. Just be careful getting your first pin. Once you start you will quickly want more.

I would pay as far under $500 as I could get them. That playfield wear is in a bad spot, and plan on new boards or finding a tech to repair them. If backglass is flaking....ugh!

Stay away. Put that money towards something else for a future emergency.

OP never said it wouldn't boot, only prob he mentioned was half the lights aren't working after it was moved. Looks like the left side of the GI is out. A noob will have that diagnosed and fixed in one day with our help. And yes, that connector (all of them) should be replaced on the rectifier board. As well as removing the battery.

You could touch up that pf yourself too - I wouldn't expect a new pin owner to run out and buy airbrushing equipment to start doing pf touchups, that's up to you. So, if you can live with whatever your skill set can do about it (you'd be surprised what a brush can accomplish, or you can live with it the way it is), I'd be all over this. Take a good look at the backglass....

I'd offer 550 and try to end up at 650.00, top end $750.00. You wont lose money at that price, even if you cant fix it and want to sell it next month.

offer him $500

Other way around:

And the photo shows GI partially on, and nothing to show that the game has booted, which is consistent with the battery damage.

Easier said than done. Paint matching can be difficult.

Ah, i stand corrected then, good catch - could be battery corrosion, could be that baked connector on the rectifier board - I think that orange wire takes the juice up to the driver board, and without that, nothing.

I'd offer $400 and maybe go $550.00.

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$500

I call that about a $150.00 game.

That dude should be happy with 700. Also I would not make a lower offer until you showed up and looked at the game.

Don't fret. There are tons of games out there.

Summer is usually a better time of year to get deals. Guys aren't concentrating as much on games when it's nice outside.

Just tell him offer stands and to reach out if he changes his mind. Might be surprised.