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Weyland Yutani - Dedicated to Keeping 3 Alien Specimens Alive


By knockerlover

2 years ago



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  • Latest reply 9 months ago by TomDK
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#401 2 years ago
Quoted from Ballypinball:

doesn't go on the io board

...or motherboard...

#402 2 years ago
Quoted from Knightman:

Question...
So, cointaker sent me a shaker-motor. The plug does not appear to match anything on the IO board....
Where the hell does it go??? I found a plug but it seemed inverted and...not correct.

Read this post

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/weyland-yutani-dedicated-to-keeping-3-alien-specimens-alive?tq=shaker&tu=

#403 2 years ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

join_the_cirqus is correct.
The shaker motor connector is a spike connector for spike and spike 2 systems, and plugs into the “shaker motor” PinOut on the power supply board in the bottom of the cabinet.
Pin 1 - red
Pin 2 - N/A
pin 3 - red (jumper or loop)
Pin 4 - black
Pin 5 - black (jumper or loop)

Well, crap. The cointaker shaker I have is a red one...but the plug is a completely different shape from the one that is on the board.......

#404 2 years ago

Maybe I am wrong but a shaker is at least a motor. A motor used in pinball has 2 wires ....
The Alien is prepared for a shaker. There is a pcb with connectors or solderplate for this 2 wires ...

From an other post copied:
The shaker motor connector is a spike connector for spike and spike 2 systems, and plugs into the “shaker motor” PinOut on the power supply board in the bottom of the cabinet.

Pin 1 - red
Pin 2 - N/A
pin 3 - red (jumper or loop)
Pin 4 - black
Pin 5 - black (jumper or loop)

IF ... there is no preparation for a shaker you will need a pcb which converts the signal from the pinballmachine to 12 volts
power for the shaker. So this pcb needs 12 volts, 2 conectors signal from the pinball. This pcb are for sale from different distributors.

You dont have a neighbor or friend who will connect this 2 cables for you ?!
Or is the shaker completely out of range ?

#405 2 years ago

One of these tongue boards is an imposter.. can you spot the difference?

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#406 2 years ago

The bottom one is the remade one

#407 2 years ago
Quoted from Ballypinball:

The bottom one is the remade one

Yeah.. I like the minute differences in the screen layer.

#408 2 years ago

One is HPE , one is PE

#409 2 years ago
Quoted from TomDK:

One is HPE , one is PE

that one was unintentional.. "highway" vs "heighway" was the intentional change..

#410 2 years ago

the green cap is a dead giveaway, if they used that brand throughout the machine you guys are in for some fun down the road.

#411 2 years ago

Sling GI boards arrived. Fit perfectly.

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#412 2 years ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

Yeah.. I like the minute differences in the screen layer.

We missed the opportunity to put "Somebody set up us the bomb." below the daughterboard between the headers. Oh well!

#413 2 years ago
Quoted from TomDK:

Maybe I am wrong but a shaker is at least a motor. A motor used in pinball has 2 wires ....
The Alien is prepared for a shaker. There is a pcb with connectors or solderplate for this 2 wires ...
From an other post copied:
The shaker motor connector is a spike connector for spike and spike 2 systems, and plugs into the “shaker motor” PinOut on the power supply board in the bottom of the cabinet.
Pin 1 - red
Pin 2 - N/A
pin 3 - red (jumper or loop)
Pin 4 - black
Pin 5 - black (jumper or loop)
IF ... there is no preparation for a shaker you will need a pcb which converts the signal from the pinballmachine to 12 volts
power for the shaker. So this pcb needs 12 volts, 2 conectors signal from the pinball. This pcb are for sale from different distributors.
You dont have a neighbor or friend who will connect this 2 cables for you ?!
Or is the shaker completely out of range ?

Found it, installed...

It activates in test, no problem. When in-game? When activated it shuts down the whole game and restarts....on version 1.2 also.

color-codes match, the plug works, etc.

No clue...seems like more trouble that it is worth.

#414 2 years ago
Quoted from Knightman:

Found it, installed...
It activates in test, no problem. When in-game? When activated it shuts down the whole game and restarts....on version 1.2 also.
color-codes match, the plug works, etc.
No clue...seems like more trouble that it is worth.

This game is so fragile with the way its engineered that it makes it not worth the risk IMO. I've had plenty of problems with undersized connectors and socketed components under the playfield without a shaker that I would expect adding a shaker is just going to make it worse.

#415 2 years ago
Quoted from Knightman:Found it, installed...
It activates in test, no problem. When in-game? When activated it shuts down the whole game and restarts....on version 1.2 also.
color-codes match, the plug works, etc.
No clue...seems like more trouble that it is worth.

Make sure you are running 1.2 and your I/O boards are updated to 0.9. Particularly the IOC board. You can access this update by going to tests -> I/O Boards -> Update

Also just out of curiosity, can you validate that you are running blue I/O boards and they have the attached pictures hack above a series of 4 SMd 0-ohm resistors? A small wire soldered jumping over and between these resistors.

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#416 2 years ago

Got my LED order from timebandit today and spent all evening and half the night soldering them up and installing them! My Alien is a prototype with the 5 LED towers, but since we upgraded the CPU and code to the 1.2 version, half the lighting no longer worked. (New code doesn’t support the 5 LED towers)

Install went OK, I had one bad LED that I had to track down and some of the towers are tricky to swap with the LEDs on the under playfield boards since I didn’t fully remove them from the game, just loosened them and carefully reached behind to exchange the needed LEDs.

It is a total of 38 towers to swap with the single LEDs, here’s their general locations:

Bottom board (top when PF is up) - 2 anchor screws behind IO board/must remove it

(4) left side lanes and 2 above left outlanes
(2) right side lanes

Individual green boards
(2) 1 each of the 2 individual green boards on the left
(1) near the Xeno scoop and pops

Middle board (No anchor screws behind IO board)

(5) left side under ramps
(3) behind drop target mech
(3) right side behind upper right flipper mech
(2) the right side near pops

Top board (bottom when PF is up) - 1 anchor screw under IO board

(9) left side under ramps/next to orbits
(7) right side behind pops

38 total

Now I’m in need of compatible light pipes, but at least the pin is playable now!!

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#417 2 years ago
Quoted from TimeBandit:

Sling GI boards arrived. Fit perfectly.
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My left sling has gone bad. Best way to obtain new sling boards? Suitable alternative?

#418 2 years ago
Quoted from Knightman:

My left sling has gone bad. Best way to obtain new sling boards? Suitable alternative?

I will have them available shortly. About another week.

#419 2 years ago
Quoted from TimeBandit:

I will have them available shortly. About another week.

Excellent. I will likely buy several for spares as I did with the motherboard, mini-lcd panels and lcd-panel controllers. Please keep me posted.

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#420 2 years ago

Package arrived today from freeplay via Daniel Janson one of the pinball brothers.. at this moment we theoretically should have all the parts to make fully working production level machines!

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#421 2 years ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

Package arrived today from freeplay via Daniel Janson one of the pinball brothers.. at this moment we theoretically should have all the parts to make fully working production level machines!
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Ooh, presents! Lay all the parts out for a group shot! What else ya get?

#422 2 years ago

Hello! Would it be possible to do for the general lighting led totem as the prototype but suddenly all in parallel and not independent as the prototype to put them on the game series?

I'm not sure how to express my point with my ridiculous English! lol

#423 2 years ago
Quoted from cyber-greg:

Hello! Would it be possible to do for the general lighting led totem as the prototype but suddenly all in parallel and not independent as the prototype to put them on the game series?
I'm not sure how to express my point with my ridiculous English! lol

Yes, that’s how I have done the sling boards with extra LEDs. They are in parallel.

#424 2 years ago

Lightings totem for the GI would be not bad not?

#425 2 years ago
Quoted from cyber-greg:

Lightings totem for the GI would be not bad not?

I have a better idea.

#426 2 years ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

Package arrived today from freeplay via Daniel Janson one of the pinball brothers.. at this moment we theoretically should have all the parts to make fully working production level machines!
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Can I buy a xeno with the metal gear installed?

#427 2 years ago

If you are quick .... yes !
In Australia also available.

#428 2 years ago
Quoted from TomDK:

If you are quick .... yes !
In Australia also available.

if anyone has one let me know. thx

#430 2 years ago

Any word to if there’s an online manual or printed manual available yet for this game ?

Also are the art files available is anybody going to reproduce the plastic sets ?

Maybe something better on PETG plastic ?

#431 2 years ago

Are the alien head and face huggers aftermarket? Hmm...to make a custom or not to make a custom...it really is a shame someone coudln't have picked up this game, I can't imagine the license was cheap.

#432 2 years ago
Quoted from mnpinball:

Any word to if there’s an online manual or printed manual available yet for this game ?
Also are the art files available is anybody going to reproduce the plastic sets ?
Maybe something better on PETG plastic ?

Yes, someone is working on the plastic set in PETG.

#433 2 years ago
Quoted from Zablon:

Are the alien head and face huggers aftermarket? Hmm...to make a custom or not to make a custom...it really is a shame someone coudln't have picked up this game, I can't imagine the license was cheap.

I would be in the market for alien-r

#434 2 years ago

Just picked up 2 spare xenomorphs and face huggers

#435 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I would be in the market for alien-r

+1

#436 2 years ago
Quoted from TomDK:

If you are quick .... yes !
In Australia also available.

Do you mean it has been factory built as it since a particular date built?

#437 2 years ago

I am sure that this mechanics are factory build.
In Australa you can contact member Ballypinball, he offered in a psot also a full mechanic for sale.

I am still on the plastics, please see the other threads about Alien for first pics and impressions. BUT the plastics in Vivac is a forums project. A friend of mine has the possibility to make them on his work when printer and laser are not busy. But therefor we have to wait for timeslots to use this equipment.
So we are working on it.

#438 2 years ago

Testing and installing LEDs.. still need to find a light pipe solution..

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#439 2 years ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

Testing and installing LEDs.. still need to find a light pipe solution..
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I’m going to send you my CAD drawings of my design with the cone machined up the middle. They are freaking gorgeous in real life. Maybe you can get a decent quote in that big ‘ol country of yours. Too expensive here.
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#440 2 years ago

All my light pipes look like they're epoxied in..

#441 2 years ago
Quoted from Kneissl:

All my light pipes look like they're epoxied in..

Some are. The OEM pipes have vertical fins on them to provide a grab if pushed/hammered in. Most can be tapped from the top to drop out.

Although they may have done more/less glueing over the production run. Machines may differ.

1 week later
#442 2 years ago

I should be getting some more I/O boards next week. They are $250 shipped in the US, a bit more than that to send international. Shoot me a note if you're interested. Thanks,
Chris

#443 2 years ago

I love reading about all of these recent community updates. Awesome job guys!

#444 2 years ago

Me too. It's incredible what people have achieved, with no schematics or input from the manufacturer etc. Very impressive.

#445 2 years ago

Wiring harness duplication.. we will get Xenos to work!

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#446 2 years ago

I know it really is amazing ! Thank you from the bottom of my heart to all

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#447 2 years ago

Yes, seriously, all of you folks working to support this game are amazing! I feel I can speak for the entire Alien dev team: we're so honored that folks love this game so much that many of you are jumping through hoops to ensure the machine has a great long life, despite the manufacturing woes. Thank you!

#448 2 years ago
Quoted from Ferret:

Yes, seriously, all of you folks working to support this game are amazing! I feel I can speak for the entire Alien dev team: we're so honored that folks love this game so much that many of you are jumping through hoops to ensure the machine has a great long life, despite the manufacturing woes. Thank you!

2 things:
1-This game is just amazing!
2- pinside is not a cancer when the collective abilities Go to the benefit of a passion, to the benefit of all.

#449 2 years ago

I started posting some info on pinwiki under heighway.. it should be easier than digging it out of the forums here... there's a ton of great info in here.
http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Heighway_Pinball_Repair

#450 2 years ago

Replacing these LED's I learned that the big light PCB's traces, and the connection points for the LED's are really finicky. Couple that with the serial light bus, and it quickly becomes confusing. ferret tipped us off that in single lamp test there is a code next to each lamp. Something like 1A-11, the format means IO Board, Chain, and Lamp. In this example, IO Board #1, Chain A, Lamp 11. So, if lamp 11 is bad, anything after that 12-20 will be off, or flickering, or stuck on.. etc.

So, to make it easier to track down I made a table of all the lamps..
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZtqbAPjQwFCOdWhHf2dGR8HS7ipjLsUZEXYAwFvWaQ4/edit?usp=sharing

There is one input and one output per LED, and you can visibly see the trace between LED's.. those traces can be jumped, but I would try reflowing the solder at the connection point first.

Another tip is to swap a potentially bad LED with the one at the end of the chain. A few case I found an LED that refused to send data upstream.. doesn't matter if it's in the last position.

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