good finally meeting ya yesterday. hope to actually play pinball next time!

-jon

I think Mustang is bland and forgettable as well, played a few games and wasn't tempted to buy it, music selection is best feature, pin is for Mustang enthusiasts.

Funny, I played it yesterday for the first time at MP and kinda liked it. Very fast with lots of ball spin (it's brand-new), but I thought it was fun to shoot. Still don't have a good feel for the rules, but MB was easy to start by just hitting the drops. Far more interesting that their previous release, IMO.

I like it also and I am not a Ford fan.. Like the sounds and shots.. Believe it will become a great pin as 50th Anniversary and Ford wont let it be a flop with code.. I own the game.

Disclaimer.. Not stating Stern would either

I had the exact same feeling when I played Mustang at the 1up here in Denver. Forgettable is definitely the right word for my first impression. I like Trudeau's work in general so I am still eager to see his next game from Stern. Still, I will give any Stern I don't like at first another chance months down the line because of the general lack of completeness of code upon release.

My biggest problem with Mustang is just that there aren't many satisfying shots to hit. The ramp is cool, but quite often it isn't even down so the game is basically ramp-less when that happens. I'm also not a fan of the big drop target bank in the middle. I think as a player I'm so conditioned to not take dangerous shots so I don't really enjoy shooting them. I like drop targets in general but I would have rather seen a magnet toy or an inline drop target bank concealing a 2nd ramp than what's currently there. The captive ball area also seems like a waste of space because anything beyond just a regular captive ball is really beyond the player's control. It's not a bad game necessarily, but I think looking back it will be known as a pretty mediocre Stern title.

i feel your pain. i see no hope for the game based on the shots alone.

I didn't like it either. I like AC/DC and ST, but couldn't get into Mustang.

So true about the center drops. It just seems like lazy design, imo. It's good to have an "obvious" shot for newer players, but it doesn't have to be such a big sucker shot that basically takes all of the real estate out of the center of the playfield. Trudeau is usually known for being very innovative and taking big risks with his designs, and this just doesn't reflect that for some reason- maybe he had a lot of pressure from his superiors to do something more simplistic.

It's almost as though they knew they had a large group of non pinball playing customers that might buy these based on theme alone.

I think it has potential. The rules are definitely not there right now, but the layout is unique and it has some cool features to it. Rules will make or break this. Imagine CFTBL with bad rules. It would be entirely forgettable, but with the great (yet simple) ruleset, it's a classic.

So then...imagine CFTBL?

I was prepared to be fairly underwhelmed when I saw it at MPE. I put a few games into it and thought it was pretty good.

The real issue I have is that Mustang Pro is really about a $2800 HUO game in my book. Same holds true for the other Stern pro models IMHO. They just don't have "value" in them like POTC, LOTR, WOF, etc.

For the sake of pinball and Stern, I hope it sells well. I can see picking one up on the used market in a couple of years myself, but not for too much.

Tagged for the OMGWTF Why hasn't anyone ever DONE THAT.....

Imagine Creech if they got rid of the left ramp and the "move your car" center shot and replaced them with a 5 drop target bank and you'd have Mustang. I really think Mustang is just a bland design that no amount of code will fix. I love a lot of Dr. Flash's design's, but I think Mustang is probably his weakest design.

Well, WOF did it which is one of the reason's that I really like that game. Thinking outside the box!

I liked it quite a bit, which is surprising, I was expecting to hate it. The rules right now have you shooting a lot of different stuff. It was a game in which I felt like I could aim for stand up targets that aren't sucker shots that drain your ball right down the middle. I liked that.

The whirlpool leaves you enough time to make a sandwich.

New code isn't going to help the pin, price is too high for the game, it is going to be like polishing a turd when selling the pin,

That's a nice looking ACDC LTBR . Is that a price tag I see on this machine?

I curious, who paid who... Ford or Stern? Hollywood and rock band themes are great, but I'm not a big fan of consumer product pins. Mustang looks like an advertisement to me.

My girlfriend and I played the one that Bobby got over at bene here.
Pretty much the same deal, we gave it about 4 games. One of them was a match award and she actually groaned. Walked away to go play AC/DC.
Really wasn't a big fan of the drop target bank. The car does nothing. I see people bitch about star trek not having great toys - but at least the ship moves.
The game is just lame enough that I have to believe Ford either comissioned them to do it, or cut them one hell of a screaming deal on the licensing.

They have one at Mugs Ale House now as well (in Williamsburg, Bklyn) next to their WoZ. I played it a few times yesterday and was similarly underwhelmed. As a visual artist I find it hard to see past a lackluster theme that I'm uninterested in, but I can get over that if the gameplay is engaging enough.. which was not the case for me on Mustang.

For fairness sake I'll give it another few goes next time I'm at Modern when I don't have to feed dollar bills into a slot of potential sadness.

I assure you that Stern did not make Mustang on commission from Ford. That would be some wasted marketing dollars. NASCAR didn't pay Stern, Dodge didn't pay for Viper, and George Lucas never funded a Star Wars game. That's not how these things work. Ever.

See center ramp on 2001 Stern Playboy with drop target very well integrated.

On the pro. The car is on an interactive rotating turntable on the premium and LE models.

Th game is on game code V1.0. Can never judge on early code. Let's hope this one is another they finish.
Al

Version 1.20 for Mustang Pro was released on April 10, 2014

Was available for download as of 4/14 - and is huge and awesome!