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Well, I got the machine I wanted.

By Terry1

7 years ago


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#1 7 years ago

Check this out. not impressed with the artistry, but, it is a working machine.
Terry K

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#4 7 years ago

Thanks for all the congrats!! If the moderator doesn't mind,I would like to run a
real time(sort of) commentary on my progress getting this machine going.
Along the way it may help some one down the road!
Terry K

#8 7 years ago

Well, to get started, the machine will not work worth a dam
until you remember to plug back in the terminals you un-plug
when you take it apart!!!
Also, the bingo knows when the front door in open,found the contacts!
Fist of many questions; the locks up on the side boards of the head, what
do they unlock?
Second, is there an easy way to slide down the playfield glass once the foot rail
is removed?
That's all the questions for now. I wouldn't remember more than two answers anyway!!!
Terry K

#15 7 years ago

Thank you for all the input!
Vic you have a beautiful machine. Once my bingo is EM sound
I will get to the cosmetics.
A few observations:
it appears that removing the backglass has to be done very carefully to
not compromise the paint. Is it easier to do this with both side rails removed?
i noticed an AC receptacle in the head. Looks original. Nice for soldering iron,
trouble light, defibrillator (just saying).
i also noticed a drip tray right under where the motor for the mixer and spotting unit
would be when the back door is closed. Is this original ?
I'm off to find suction cup(s) to do my glass work when the time comes.
TTFN
Terry K

#17 7 years ago

Thank you for the info "bingopodcast". I just tried the tape trick on my playfield glass, worked perfectly.
I used duck tape.
And away we go.
Terry K

#18 7 years ago

Stop the presses. Come to find out that my bingo really does not work.
Will have to do more investigation before I can ask a half intelligent question
Terry K
p.s. the tape trick also worked on my backglass!

#19 7 years ago

Let the troubles begin!
Before I begin, this is what the bingo is doing!
The control unit(CU) motor is running all the time, but, on occasion, will not run at all.
When it is running(CU) the first two metal discs(for lack of a better name) are activating the
contacts ,but, sound like there is or maybe some metal to metal contact!
I am sending pictures but I don't know how to integrate them into my post!
I am sending pictures of the CU, metal filings can be seen below the CU discs.
First I see that there are two sets of contacts associated with the front door;
one NC and one NO. Right now it makes no difference if they are engaged or not.
There is a wire broke off inside by the the front door. I can tell by it's length that it must go to
one of the contacts having to do with the balls.
I will send some pics.
Terry K

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#21 7 years ago

In the CU, the fan blade turns, the shaft turns.
The mixer and spotting unit motor turn.
The very end of the CU assembly has a disc with a slot in it.
There is a relay/coil holding the disc from turning.
If I manually activate the relay/coil the CU seems to work until
the disc gets locked up at it's slot.
See pictures.
Thanks for the help.

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#23 7 years ago

Thanks BPC for the input.
How do you put credits on the machine?
The tilt has been disconnected.
Since I am not familiar with all the sounds(yet), I believe the sound you are
saying on the cams is what I am hearing.
Should I be concerned about the disconnected wire by the ball mech?
Also, is the lack of any effect on the machine with the front door contacts out of position,
any thing to be concerned about?
Terry K

#27 7 years ago

Thanks guys.
I will try the above tomorrow.
Terry K

#28 7 years ago

Here we go.
I put credits(games) on the machine before power up.
When the power is turned on the bingo resets credits to zero.
When I flick the coin micro sw the game looks good in front.
No ball appears.
As I add games the odds are changing, as I would expect.
The CU motor continues to run. I noticed that only the first two, of the
three metal discs(for lack of a better term), turn.
Also the coil/relay holding the fiber disc(at the end of the CU) from turning, never engages!
The mixer and spotting unit motor runs.
As a side note;
when i first assembled the game and turned it on(the game still had the balls still in the holes).
the balls dropped and I played a game. When I was done, the machine never worked again.
Terry K

#30 7 years ago

A close look at the two, total plays and replays, registers, I see a wire off the
total plays register.
The loose wire mentioned earlier is NOT the wire off the register.
By the length of the loose wire it appears to be from around the, slopped, ball mechanism.
Terry

#33 7 years ago

Look what I found. A ball not getting back to the others.
I also noticed a set of contacts that I imagine tells the bingo that all of the balls have returned!
I may be getting some where!!!
Terry K

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#36 7 years ago

I took a few pics under the play field. There are 5 sets of contacts associated with
the balls sitting in there tray. I assume that is to tell the bingo how many balls are
in play. I seams to me that the bingo may require all 8 balls in place to allow a
game to begin, maybe my original problem.
Also, I see a set of contacts near the ball board mechanism that seem to be mangled.
See pics.
The ball board guide rails are loose, so I am going to tighten them up before I put it
back.
I guess my last question of the day is, will that last ball not getting back to the ball
tray prevent a game from beginning???
Terry K

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#39 7 years ago

Thank you "baldtwit". What I found interesting was that this particular
set of contacts seem to be rusted. No other area of the machine is like that.
I will try the contacts and see if things are OK.
BTW, would a particular machine have one key to all the locks?
That single wire that I see seems to have been connected at one time.
It has the "look" of broke off. Also I noticed that the bundle that this wire is in
has this wire taken out in a different way than the wires to the ball contacts.
See the picture, I rolled up the loose wire to make it more obvious.
Terry K
p.s. take all the pics you like

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#40 7 years ago

Speaking of pictures. If any one would like me to take a picture of any thing while my machine
is in this state of disassembly, let me know. See the picture. Also notice the beer frig EH !
Terry K

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#43 7 years ago

Here is a better look at the set of rusted contacts. They seem to be in the
energized position + the board is in the position to allow the balls to drop;
notice the top leaf is bowed out. I, to some degree, straightened it out with
my dental probe!
Being in the energized position it's hard to tell if all the contacts will disengage
properly.
Terry K

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#45 7 years ago

Here are two pics of ol rusty in the de-energized position.
Things seem to be proper.
Terry K

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#47 7 years ago

Guess what!
All I need now is how to change the bulbs for the bingo card!
Terry K

#49 7 years ago

Thanks for all the help guys. Could not have done it with out you!!!
Is there any particular type of wax used on the play field?
Terry K

#51 7 years ago

I just noticed on my back glass there are no red numbers. See pic
Other machines I look at on line have red scoring section.
A poser!!!
Terry K

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#54 7 years ago

Thanks for the picture Vic.
My back glass numbers(red) seem very white, almost
like they were never red!
Terry K

#55 7 years ago

The extreme right of the back glass has a string of lights (9)
just to the right of the roll over lights, are they on all the time?

#57 7 years ago

The string of 7 lights just below the A to G, are they also "teaser" lights or are they supposed
to point to the magic screen position you are in at that particular time?
Terry K

#59 7 years ago

Is it common for the cabinet & head to have different S/N's ?
Terry K

#61 7 years ago

So, originally, all machines would have been built with matching serial numbers?

#63 7 years ago

Well I got a mixed breed!
Cabinet S/N A1733
Head S/N A1387
Play field S/N 1370

#65 7 years ago

Here we go again! How do you remove the pins that hold the
play field springs?
Terry K

#67 7 years ago

So these pins are like nails. I thought they were screwed in.
They seem blunt on the end(under the play field).
They must have been pressed on/in!
Must be a b**** putting one back in and not messing them up.
If I did get them out, can a person get new ones?
If not, I may leave well enough alone!!!!
Terry K
BTW, nice talking you too "Pinball_Muggle"

#69 7 years ago

Are these pins something that can be had.Or do you try to clean up
what you have?

#71 7 years ago

I was wondering that if replacements pins were available, the old ones could
be pulled out like nails; using a small claw hammer and a thin piece of wood under the hammer.

#73 7 years ago

Nope. I mean the pins holding the springs!

#78 7 years ago

I punched out the spring pins. Really was no problem.
It appears the"nail fence" nails may come out carefully with a claw hammer
as long as the surface of the playfield is protected.
My machine must have been(at one time) stored in a fairly hi humidity setting.
The pins are all corroded , even some relay contacts are a bit rusty.
Have been in contact with Joe S through this work, very helpful!!

#80 7 years ago

Thanks "baldtwit" for the link! I don't think I'll go the the effort of
removing the arch from the field. I like the gel-gloss idea. I have removed all
the stuff from the playfield. I will clean it up(playfield) and clean the stuff to see if
I can bring the posts and rebound springs back to life. Some of my light shields
are almost brown.

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