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Welcome To The Jurassic Park Prem/LE Club!!


By EightBallTexas

1 year ago



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Post #622 KME posts on TREX adjustments. Posted by sk8ball (1 year ago)

Post #885 More info on aligning the TREX. Posted by pickleric (1 year ago)

Post #1396 Shooter fix Posted by Chambahz (1 year ago)

Post #1619 read before dismantling the raptor Posted by timlah79 (1 year ago)

Post #1830 KME gives info on how to adjust the T-Rex. Posted by sk8ball (1 year ago)

Post #2358 TREX Adjustment info Posted by imagamejunky (1 year ago)

Post #2625 Adjusting the raptor pit. Posted by yancy (1 year ago)

Post #2994 How to Remove TREX Head and also fix Jaw Screw that came out/loose Posted by f3honda4me (1 year ago)

Post #3326 Amber Bonus rules and details Posted by fooflighter (12 months ago)

Post #3417 Fix for Orbit optical sensors not registering shots Posted by caker137 (12 months ago)


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#366 1 year ago

Looking at that LE playfield up close makes me think that they may have resolved the bubbling issue at the posts. All the bubbling and pooling on Pros and other Stern pins shows the paint underneath adhering to the clearcoat as it bubbles up, making it look like an adherence issue between the artwork and the wood. By not having artwork there and only clearcoat it *may* resolve it, as they may have found that the printed artwork being the issue when stressed at a post.

I *really* hope this resolves it, as I'm this close to pulling the trigger on a Premium as I really love the game!

#555 1 year ago
Quoted from delt31:

So l played an LE for almost two hours today. Shout out to Helicon Brewery in Pittsburgh - absolutely the best there is.
Here are my impressions.
Going in, I already knew I wanted this game but wasn't sure pro or prem/LE. The long short of it is premium/le ALL THE WAY and the PF was perfect - def much less clear on it which seems to be the answer along with no art by posts!
1) Art on the LE is so much better than the pro (in person). I won't revisit my take on the pro considering it's not very positive but good rebound on the LE. I'm not a fan of that JP3 Dino or the car but in the aggregate it works. First thing I do is remove that car btw - already have a good jeep. I also thought the premium art was the best of the three so excited. Sideblades are awesome btw.
2) Right off the bat, you start the game and a glaring difference from the pro is the helicopter. Yes it looks cool but what was surprising to me was the sound it makes which is very loud. It really adds to the overall effect and gets you right into that JP mood.
3) Right after that I was greeted with a HUGE TREX roar that had the toy visibly open it's mouth and it was just awesome. It really got me engaged in the game and instantly took that relatively dull/stagnant corner of the Pro and brought it too life. BAM - toy in your face right in the beginning - loved it. Afterwards it would just follow the ball but in many different directions and it felt organic
4) TREX eating the ball - very cool although a couple things. The shot needs to be basically perfect otherwise it won't work. I also would like stern to close the mouth MUCH quicker as the current delay kind of breaks the effect a little as the REX mouth seems to be on a slight delay. The mech worked everytime when the shot was lined up right. It didn't throw it during any of my games though - hopefully that's still in! I also think the JP DE eating is cooler, but Stern JP throwing is better than the swallow so a draw!
5) Quality wise, the game feels better than the pro. This was in line with my previous experience with LE/prem vs pro - not sure why since Stern hasn't said they differ in build but it felt heavier no question.
6) Sound effects in this game are fantastic. Call outs, especially the main guy with the accent are bad.
7) Raptor Pit - BIG difference on the prem/LE. I knew TREX would be hard to pass on but not this. I was wrong. The gate going up, the effects that play and the way it works makes this shot make so much more sense vs. playing the pro.
8 ) Stern - give the LE guys matching trim on the backbox. Cmon now. As for the powder, I'm not really a huge fan. Could have matched with a diff color.
Overall - I'm def getting a prem and my concerns about pfs has been really helped by this experience.
Stern - job well done.

Thanks for the detailed update delt31.....looking forward to getting one myself!!

#679 1 year ago
Quoted from catchlight:

What advantage do the titan bands have over the stock ones? Would I notice a difference? I like the look of the orange ones in a previous post and was wondering what the advantages are.....

Using silicone rings instead of rubber rings/posts eliminates 95% of the black ball trails on the playfield. Out of all the silicone rings I’ve tried Titans are the longest lasting and play closest to rubber. First thing I’ll do to any pin when I buy it is replace all rubber with Titans.

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#1016 1 year ago

LE #263 is in her Paddock!!!

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#1081 1 year ago

Couple of bugs I found this weekend in the code:

- Extra Balls are being autoplunged on mine

- I had a ball get caught on top of the plastic. After a ball search started about the time I got the glass off I then put the ball in the shooter lane. While the ball was resting in the shooter lane Bonus started to count down like end of ball, and from that point on the game tried to play 2 balls every ball until I power booted the pin.

#1090 1 year ago
Quoted from Chambahz:

I ran my finger over the clear coat yesterday at a friends place and agree. Also noticed however that after a number of games, I didn’t see the same ball dents in the playfield as I did with my BM66.

Quoted from tacreno:

Yes, I noticed this as well

Yep, mine as well, and the amount of clear on it looks indentical to the TRON I have sitting next to it......and no, no noticeable dimples yet. With exception of a loose screw and a couple of code issues I'm extremely happy with my LE.

#1135 1 year ago
Quoted from scooterd:

Thank you for this. I am a home user , so I have never removed the playfield.... so dumb question - how exactly do I do this? Like, super basic! I also know I need to get the balls out before doing so.
Would it be normal to expect the distributor to make this adjustment?
Thanks! ,
Newb

YouTube has many how to videos:

#1181 1 year ago
Quoted from Navystan:

- only issue I found was one black screw under coin box. Anyone else see this? I guess I really should lift Playfield and see if I can find a missing screw.
Anything else I should do a check on?

Check the playfield plastics above the Raptor pit. That looks like one of the screws that hold the 3 Raptor LED PCBs in place.

#1327 1 year ago
Quoted from EightBallTexas:

Hi All,
Have you guys heard a buzzing noise when the pin is not in use?? I am in my living room and it comes on all the time.
Can I disable whatever it is??
Thanks for the help.

Quoted from estrader:

Fan??? Buy virelands fan upgrade.

Quoted from EightBallTexas:

Ahhh.....thanks will find his username...

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1170-pin-monk/02140-spike-quiet-fan-plug-n-play-kit

#1336 1 year ago
Quoted from EightBallTexas:

Bought one and ready to plug it in. It looks so easy a caveman can do it.

It is very straightforward, just be sure to follow the included instructions!!

#1343 1 year ago
Quoted from timlah79:

Thanks vino ! Can you clarify what you mean about replacing balls with rubber? Rubber pinballs? Also, what wax do you suggest using to maintain the rubber on the flippers?

I think he was saying replacing the balls along with the rubber....

#1366 1 year ago
Quoted from Gotfrogs:

Would these work with a JJP WOZ? I find there to be almost no clearance between the playfield and cabinet walls. I have already screwed up a set of decals and don't want to do that again.

I specifically bought mine due to a JJPOTC having zero playfield clearance and messing up the art blades. Now I use them all the time on all pins.

#1487 1 year ago
Quoted from pninja005:

But is LE worth extra $ over premium? That's the question.

In my case: yes. If I had bought the Premium I would have added: invisiglass, upgraded speakers, shaker, artblades, and upgraded armor. That goes a long way towards the price of an LE. Add to that the fact that if I ever do decide to sell it, selling a Premium with mods will usually only get you 20-40% of the mod costs recouped in the sale price, which will still be a lot less than the LE is selling for.

#1567 1 year ago
Quoted from mavantix:

The Stern JP shooter, if you add it to your cart and try and check out, it won't let you.

Standard Stern store BS, instead of showing something out of stock on the item page like 99.99999% of other online stores you have to start the purchase process to actually see if it's in stock. Doesn't mean it's sold out, just not restocked......

#1570 1 year ago
Quoted from EightBallTexas:

We met alot of people also who have machines only for home use and hate the doors with the coin slots. So this guy came up with a idea and also to move the house. USA we are stuck but euro guys get just one coin slot, better than 2. It does look better/ cleaner
My crazzy ass might just be a buyer....[quoted image]

You may have to visit an infertility specialist after playing those pins......

#1572 1 year ago
Quoted from EightBallTexas:

Show stopper was this one of a kind . 100% black and white and when turned on it's stunning. lot's of work involved in redoing this .[quoted image]

The build thread for this TZ is here on Pinside...

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#1978 1 year ago
Quoted from hawkmoon77:

Has everyone that ordered their shooter rod last week get an email ship notice? It's been over aweek since I placed the order and I've gotten no notification that it shipped.

Same here...

#2030 1 year ago
Quoted from Dahawk007:

@chet218 I’m still waiting to hear back from Stern on my Trex head. Mine will move around ok but makes a loud noise and won’t lower for events either.

Based upon other posts it wouldn't hurt to check to see if the wiring harness for the T-Rex head is a bit tight, causing the head to bind.

#2136 1 year ago

Anybody know the size of the playfield hanger screw that secures the apron to the hanger?? Looks to be at least a #10 in size, discovered mine was missing one of them......

#2145 1 year ago
Quoted from jbigdoggf:

This was stuck between a lot of pictures
Question.... where is the setting to make the initials / names for the records longer than 3 characters??

It's under Service Menu > Adjustments > SPI

#2170 1 year ago
Quoted from fooflighter:

Hey all, just curious, why on a new pin like JP, the playfield sliders have the bump when pushing it back into the cabinet yet older pin like my Star Wars Premium has a smooth slide system...I'm fairly new to the hobby so excuse if this is common knowledge...I just hate that bump, feel like i'm damaging something every time i slide it back

Your SW Premium had that bump as well from the factory, sounds like the slider got replaced with a bumpless version at some time....

#2174 1 year ago
Quoted from GamerRick:

I just got a new Star Wars premium build date March 2019 and it has a smooth slide no bump to hit. Much better not sure if that’s a new one. I have Elvira their latest pin and JP and both have the bump

Quoted from fooflighter:

I don't think so, I bought it new in box from the distributor 5 months ago and this is the sticker on the playfield
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Wow!! That's new to me, I've never seen that before! My SW Premium I bought when they first came out had the normal Stern bumpy sliders.

#2398 1 year ago
Quoted from mthirkell:

My first JP2 LE issue: the right lower flipper just lost about 50% of its power. I'm a bit of a noob - any ideas???

Fixed a JP Pro last night with the same lower right flipper being weak: broken coil stop.

#2462 1 year ago
Quoted from DesTheopta:

I unboxed an LE a couple of nights ago. Does this pin have a goodie bag? There was nothing mine. Not a huge deal but I usually leave them in when I buy NIB.
I looked at some opening pic and through the thread but didn't see any mention of it. Sorry if this was touched on before.

Not just a goodie bag but a LE certificate as well.......

#2510 1 year ago
Quoted from Lounge:

My raptor tail was rubbing on the metal plate to the right. 30 seconds with a heat gun and a little pressure curls the tail a little tighter so now the tail does not rub.
I’ll snap a pic when I get home if you’re interested.

Mine is doing that too, will be addressed today!

#2592 1 year ago
Quoted from Green-Machine:

Those would look nice on GOTG

Why, yes, yes they do!!

#2717 1 year ago

Is it just me, but it seems like Jurassic Park code updates are coming out a little slower than recent Stern pins. Don't get me wrong, the pin released in better shape code wise than many past Stern releases. It just seems there hasn't been any movement forward in a while, especially when we saw a DeadFlip stream a few weeks back where they were showing off some unreleased code.

#2900 1 year ago
Quoted from EaglePin:

AAAAAAARGH I WANT THAT SHOOTER ROD!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, had to get that out of my system. I only have one mod on three games combined, but I really want that shooter rod to get back in stock so I can get one. Looks pretty sweet.

it could be worse, you could have paid for yours on 10/21 in the Stern Store when they were supposedly in stock and have nothing to show for it: no shooter, no notification, no contact, nothing....

#2916 1 year ago
Quoted from AUKraut:

it could be worse, you could have paid for yours on 10/21 in the Stern Store when they were supposedly in stock and have nothing to show for it: no shooter, no notification, no contact, nothing....

Speak of the Devil: Just got a UPS package scheduled delivery notice for a package from Stern Pinball, to be delivered tomorrow! That should be it...

Still no notifications from Stern, just my original order invoice from last month.....

#3009 1 year ago
Quoted from RebelGuitars:

Jason at Classicgamerooms on eBay told me he had the Amber shooter rods in stock;
ebay.com link » Stern Jurassic Park Pinball Machine Shooter Knob Rod

Starting to really tick me off that I ordered mine direct from Stern over a month ago and still nothing. Sent an email last week as well, no response to it either...

#3054 1 year ago
Quoted from EightBallTexas:

Not rubbing it in just posting that my phone called might have worked.

Just called....they have my order since 10/21 and they are out of stock, that's all she would tell me......smh....

#3058 1 year ago
Quoted from AUKraut:

Just called....they have my order since 10/21 and they are out of stock, that's all she would tell me......smh....

...and now I get a shipping confirmation from Stern.....seriously????

#3063 1 year ago
Quoted from EightBallTexas:

The phone call did it man...I got the same answer but what a surprise to get shipping.

Oh, I agree, it's not a coincidence.....but why can't they just be truthful? She said they were out of stock, they've shipped to more recent purchasers, etc. Not the first time I've run into this with them not coming out and telling the truth.

#3098 1 year ago

...and there is GREAT rejoicing on Isla Nubilar!!!!! New Code!!!!!

#3152 1 year ago

Shooter rod arrived and installed!!

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#3173 1 year ago
Quoted from sk8ball:

You can go to utilities-volume-speaker type and change the ohm setting

sk8ball were there any planned changes in the audio settings with this latest release to cause this?

#3266 1 year ago

sk8ball: Ran into the same bug as everyone else is here with respect to the Hard Reset with a made Missile shot, however mine was during T-Rex Multi-ball with 3 balls active, unlike others who experienced it with Raptor. Playfield lights (GI & inserts go out), then the flippers die a second later as well as the LCD. Then it reboots...

Also can confirm the Backbox speakers on mine keep setting itself to 4 ohms with every power down......

#3268 1 year ago
Quoted from wheels:

I know this is dumb, but out of an abundance of caution, remove the rubber band on the jeep, correct? It was just for shipping? Thank you in advance.

Correct!

#3294 1 year ago
Quoted from yancy:

Yup. And not on a super hard tilt where the bob would need extra time to settle down. Just seems to happen randomly.

Quoted from Rob_G:

Iron Maiden had similar issues where a ball drain would be followed by a long delay before the bonus countdown began.
Rob

Yep, IMDN does this as well, but not nearly as bad as initial Munsters code. You could literally go out for Pizza and when you came back the Tilt Screen was still up on the LCD.....

#3338 12 months ago
Quoted from MrMikeman:

You update to .95 with the Stern files, then do this sound update.

Quoted from luvthatapex2:

Why would you do that? The sound update is original .95 code with sounds changed. Updating to .95 with the stern files is redundant.

IMO If any update flashes the Node Boards I'd rather have the Stern factory update do it first in case of a warranty issue of possible bricking a Node Board rather than a non-Stern update.

I'm not saying that anything the Sound code reprogrammers are doing would cause such a problem, but then again even factory code updates have bricked Node Boards. Better safe than sorry.....

#3399 12 months ago
Quoted from Lounge:

Just experienced the Smart Missile crash .... {{{~ sigh ~}}}

You would figure that Stern would have released a quick update for this, as it makes JP unusable in a match play tournament & league setting...

#3411 12 months ago
Quoted from AUKraut:

You would figure that Stern would have released a quick update for this, as it makes JP unusable in a match play tournament & league setting...

...and here it is!

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#3606 11 months ago
Quoted from skink91:

Gut instinct tells me there may be a switch that is registering points on end of one players ball, but that there may also be a software bug allowing points to register into the next player’s ball causing the autoplunge.

Agreed, that's usually the case when a Stern autoplunges.....

#3635 11 months ago
Quoted from Boondocker:

Looks good, but do you really see that much glare on the glass?

Bent plastic solves that issue

#3637 11 months ago
Quoted from ShineSpark:

My Premium is being delivered tomorrow and I'm giddy, my first pin ever. Got a quick question for any and all of those who have updated to .96, the stern code page seems to have the same file for download under the hyperlink for premium AND the LE .96. They both show up as jurassic_park_le-0_96_0.spk.zip.
Is this OK for install on a premium? Am I crazy? It's the same in the game specific code download page for JP and also in the support -> code page.
Many thanks!

Premium and LE share the same code, as the playfield and play features are physically identical

#3639 11 months ago
Quoted from ShineSpark:

Thank you sir, I appreciate it.

Sure thing.....and welcome to Pinside and pin ownership!!!

#3687 11 months ago
Quoted from Outlanes:

Has anyone found a way to tighten the upper flipper pistol without removing the flipper mech?

A real thin open end wrench will fit under the flipper base plate to hold the locknut there while you tighten the screw from above the playfield.

#3780 11 months ago
Quoted from Braindance:

Anyone have suggestions on tightening the posts which have screws covered by the bracket or whatever which holds the coil? I'd prefer to not have to unscrew something directly screwed into the playfield on a regular basis. I suppose there might be some super tiny pliers out there to squeeze into the tiny space and grab the nut while turning the screw from above the playfield.

Quoted from SkillShot:

I’m having the same issue. Tried using a screw driver to hold the nut, but wasn’t successful. Maybe I need better needle nose pliers.

A real thin open end wrench will fit under the flipper base plate to hold the locknut there while you tighten the screw from above the playfield.

#3820 11 months ago
Quoted from Nameim:

What do you recommend? Titans?

All day every day....first thing I do to ANY pin that enters my house is put on Titan rings

#3847 11 months ago
Quoted from Scribbles:

The switch is still there and still functional. It's a pressure switch on the pro, not optical, but as long as the switch is functioning who needs the blades to spin? Unless of course the spinning blades are what is interrupting the optic beam.

Since the blades act like a full fledged spinner on the Premium/LE maybe Keith put some code in there to take advantage of how many spins it has?? With some of the rules innovations he's done on IMDN and now on JP it wouldn't surprise me one bit.....

#4005 10 months ago
Quoted from Hadley:

What's the consensus on this? It's my first NIB and mine is looking more like a golf ball each day. Is this normal? Build date mid October.

All pin playfields dimple, some more than others depending on the hardness of the wood. It is a metal ball striking wood....

Good news is that it does even out over time and become less noticeable.

#4017 10 months ago
Quoted from woody76:

does anyone know if the Stern shooter rod comes with the LED lighting? Looks like the LEDs shine out of the shooting rod housing.

Check post 3152, I posted a pic of the Stern Shooter I installed on mine with the additional tiltgraphics shooter plate. The LEDs are visible in the pic.

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#4315 10 months ago
Quoted from madscientist101:

Something is wrong with my game more then just adding tape to edges of glass. The difference in my JP vibrating and all the other games I have owned is day and night not something that just needs a bandaid.

Just holding back plastic channel

Quoted from bbulkley:

Mine vibrates something awful when the shaker motor hits. I keep meaning to fix it but I'm too busy playing.

I'd try some fabric felt tape. You should only have to do a few pieces spread out in the channel....

amazon.com link »

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#4662 9 months ago
Quoted from PinPeet:

I have a question.
How do I get rid of the ballsavers (timers) in the settings? Everything is manageable but ball savers on T-Rex multiball starts a 18 seconds for example.
We like NO ballsavers. Or a few seconds at most to keep games short and difficult. We have outlanes wide open and TILT on max.
Thanks!

Set the time in the settings to whatever you want it to be.

#4725 9 months ago
Quoted from EaglePin:

I’d check the coil stop first. There have been a lot of issues with them. Here’s a post showing a picture of the problem. If it looks like the rivet is there still take it off to check it though because it the rivet could be there and look secure when it’s actually not attached anymore.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jurassic-park-stern-2019-owners-club-welcome-to-jurassic-park/page/48#post-5275530

Agreed, check the coil stop. With the play field raised operate/move the flipper by hand while watching the rivet on the coil stop. If the rivet moves, it’s kaputt and needs to be replaced. If the rivet is not there, it’s *definitely* kaputt!

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