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Welcome To The Jurassic Park Prem/LE Club!!

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“What is the first MOD you will buy??”

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#7751 12 days ago

I just installed a knocker. Maybe I've just heard too many digital knockers but it doesn't quite sound the way I expected. Can you guys weigh in on whether this sounds right? I'm wondering if I misaligned it or something.

#7752 12 days ago

I put the knocker in all my Sterns including JP and they sound awesome and LOUD. You mounted it to hit the back of the cabinet using the template in the instructions? You turned off the software knocker (knocker volume to off) in the settings menu?

#7753 12 days ago
Quoted from seenev:

I just installed a knocker. Maybe I've just heard too many digital knockers but it doesn't quite sound the way I expected. Can you guys weigh in on whether this sounds right? I'm wondering if I misaligned it or something.

Pic of your installation? Almost sounds like the coil is too close to the back wall.

#7754 12 days ago
Quoted from Markharris2000:

You can’t go wrong with the raptor pen. $50 well spent and it looks factory. Installation is easy, and it’s 100% reversible if you ever wanted to, but you won’t.

2nd that. I think it's a great mod that does look like it should be a standard part of the game.

#7755 12 days ago
Quoted from Markharris2000:

You can’t go wrong with the raptor pen. $50 well spent and it looks factory. Installation is easy, and it’s 100% reversible if you ever wanted to, but you won’t.

Btw how reversible is it. I put the signs on and that tape is mighty strong. So how easy would this mod actually be to remove? I used bluetac to put it in place as the mod covers some screws and I figured I might need access one day.

#7756 12 days ago
Quoted from John_I:

I put the knocker in all my Sterns including JP and they sound awesome and LOUD. You mounted it to hit the back of the cabinet using the template in the instructions? You turned off the software knocker (knocker volume to off) in the settings menu?

Yeah. I had the template next to it and tried to line it up as well as I could. I took the playfield out and even so found it difficult to screw in down there. I can't open up the game right now to take an overhead picture but I'm probably just too used to hearing fake versions. It's probably fine. I'm not sure what I was expecting.

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#7757 12 days ago
Quoted from seenev:

Yeah. I had the template next to it and tried to line it up as well as I could. I took the playfield out and even so found it difficult to screw in down there. I can't open up the game right now to take an overhead picture but I'm probably just too used to hearing fake versions. It's probably fine. I'm not sure what I was expecting.[quoted image]

Seems ok. Yeah it doesn't sound like B/W WPC games. They have theirs in the backbox. Smaller "resonator". You can't on Sterns since the backbox is metal. Knocker in the cab sounds LOUD and cavernous. Certainly different.

#7758 12 days ago
Quoted from embryon:

Btw how reversible is it. I put the signs on and that tape is mighty strong. So how easy would this mod actually be to remove? I used bluetac to put it in place as the mod covers some screws and I figured I might need access one day.

I would never remove it but if I HAD to for some reason, I would simply rotate the surface rather than try to lift it. The rotation is quite easy and breaks the tape bond. Once the plastic is removed, you would need to use an tape adhesive removing cleaner (like the goo-b-gone stuff) on the residue left behind. I have done this previously and it works great.

#7759 12 days ago
Quoted from seenev:

Yeah. I had the template next to it and tried to line it up as well as I could. I took the playfield out and even so found it difficult to screw in down there. I can't open up the game right now to take an overhead picture but I'm probably just too used to hearing fake versions. It's probably fine. I'm not sure what I was expecting.[quoted image]

We need a top view also to see the gap.

#7760 12 days ago

Hi everybody,

A customer has bought my blade made for a Pro for a Premium. He does not ask me he has a Premium machine. So, I have explained that blade is not built for a premium, but he succeeds to install it and he says this blade works fine and in better way that the original. So, guys if you want a new blade with your own color do not hesitate to go on my pinside shop to buy it. Here are some photos with the blade installed on a Premium/LE machine. You have just to unscrew the only screw and replace the old standard blade by ours

The video :

Have a nice day.

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#7761 12 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

We need a top view also to see the gap.

The sound is definitely more muted in the video compared to in person. How's it look?

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#7762 12 days ago
Quoted from seenev:

The sound is definitely more muted in the video compared to in person. How's it look?
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Update (retro): Looking at post 7766 below, there are two differences inthe two installations, 1) The knock plate itself is not flush against the top wood surface. The plate is not flat possibly due to the screws not being tight, 2) The coil assembly appears to be about 3/16 of an inch too high. That would make the travel distance a bit short and the sound slightly different.

I think the consensus here is the plate issue is causing MOST of the audiable dissappointment. The hint is the metallic sound you mentioned. A properly installed knocker plate actually uses the wooden panel as the SOUNDING BOARD, literally!

Good luck!

#7763 12 days ago
Quoted from Markharris2000:

It looks properly installed, but what is the distance between the top plate and the tip of the plunger at rest?

I'm not really sure. Roughly the gap shown on the template, or "about an inch" as stated in the instructions. I think I'm just really used to hearing the knocker on an old Williams machine and then synthetic knockers. This Stern version seems to work but doesn't have quite the same sound, which is OK i guess. Just not quite what I expected.

#7764 12 days ago

Looks like the plate is not flush on the back. Look closely on the lower right corner. Also, I hear what sounds like a ringing after the knock like something metallic is vibrating still.

Generally after I install a knocker, I push the plunger until it is touching the plate and make sure there is about an 1/8th inch of travel left so the plunger has not bottomed out.

#7765 12 days ago
Quoted from John_I:

Looks like the plate is not flush on the back. Look closely on the lower right corner. Also, I hear what sounds like a ringing after the knock like something metallic is vibrating still.
Generally after I install a knocker, I push the plunger until it is touching the plate and make sure there is about an 1/8th inch of travel left so the plunger has not bottomed out.

Good eye!! This would definitely cause it to sound off. The plate not fully against the wood doesn’t allow for that sold knock

#7766 12 days ago
Quoted from seenev:

The sound is definitely more muted in the video compared to in person. How's it look?
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Here is a photo of mine, and it literally makes my ears ring if I'm too close to it.

Already mentioned, the very first think I noticed in your pic is the plate does not look completely flush with the cabinet. This would definitely cause the sound to be muted if a solid surface was not being struck.

In addition, it does look like mine is mounted slightly further away from the back wall of the cabinet based upon looking and the location in relationship to the vent holes. However, I would make sure you get the plate secured correctly first before attempting to move your coil.

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#7767 12 days ago

Alright. I opened it up again and moved everything over a bit and made sure the plate is flat, then moved the coil back a bit. It does sound more like a snap now. I think this is as good as it gets. Thanks.

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#7768 12 days ago

Not to nitpick, but it looks like you are a little askew. This may prevent the armature from hitting the plate flush, thus not maximizing the sound produced.

#7769 12 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

Not to nitpick, but it looks like you are a little askew. This may prevent the armature from hitting the plate flush, thus not maximizing the sound produced.

You had to rain on his parade??? Lol!!! Yes, it’s slightly askew, but he’s sooooo close now.

Lol

#7770 12 days ago
Quoted from Markharris2000:

You had to rain on his parade??? Lol!!! Yes, it’s slightly askew, but he’s sooooo close now.
Lol

Just want him to get the best thump possible.

#7771 12 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

Not to nitpick, but it looks like you are a little askew. This may prevent the armature from hitting the plate flush, thus not maximizing the sound produced.

I think it looks more askew than it really is. Even so, I loosened it and then tightened it with the plunger flat against the plate. It still looks a bit askew but I'm pretty sure it's hitting flat. Just had a match at the end of the game and it was very loud.

#7772 12 days ago
Quoted from seenev:

I think it looks more askew than it really is. Even so, I loosened it and then tightened it with the plunger flat against the plate. It still looks a bit askew but I'm pretty sure it's hitting flat. Just had a match at the end of the game and it was very loud.

Na! We want a slow motion video to see that 100% of the surface is hitting flat! … or it never happened

#7773 12 days ago
Quoted from DeathHimself:

Yes 7mm inner diameter and 15mm outer diameter. Actually Markharris found them, I just followed his info along with the suggested lube spray from another and it works really well. Just a drop of lube, don't saturate them. Then even shoot some lube on a paper tower or napkin and wipe it on the Jeeps shaft as well, keeps it moving nicely in that nylon bushing.

is only one of these required?
cheers

#7774 11 days ago

For anyone interested in a new goat mod for JP here's a new thread I just created

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jurassic-park-goat-mod#post-6397976

#7775 11 days ago
Quoted from MANTO1975:

is only one of these required?
cheers

Yes, just one is installed. 7mm inner, 15mm outer

#7776 11 days ago
Quoted from RoadQueen:

For anyone interested in a new goat mod for JP here's a new thread I just created
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jurassic-park-goat-mod#post-6397976

Makes me want to bleat - Meh-eh-eh! Meh-eh-eh!

#7777 11 days ago

Does any one happen to have a spare JP Matchbox helicopter that they aren't going to use?

Send me a PM and I'll buy it from you - ebay/amazon are sold out.

#7778 11 days ago
Quoted from MANTO1975:

is only one of these required?
cheers

Only 1 set is required for the jeep but they are sold in a set of 4 so it's good to have spares around.

#7779 11 days ago

Joined the JP club about a week ago. Love the game. Code is unbelievably in depth. So much going on that keeps me coming back.

Who here has the most plays on their game? I find myself having a crappy first ball and starting over quickly. Racking up the plays quick

#7780 11 days ago
Quoted from KissPin:

I find myself having a crappy first ball and starting over quickly. Racking up the plays quick

I do this. Plays don't really matter. Whenever you see sale posts that say "only 53 plays," I don't even believe it. You can never play the game and let it rot in a damp basement and it's worse off than a game with 5000 plays. Look at that recent "new old stock" Addams family that was recently listed. The thing was garbage but never played. Have fun with your game, take care of it, and don't worry about the number of plays.

#7781 11 days ago
Quoted from Manny65:

You possibly have a flaky coil connection in T-Rex - go into test mode and see if there is an intermittent issue opening T-Rex's mouth (it could be dependent upon T-Rex position that is breaking the connection). Here is the relevant post https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/welcome-to-the-jurassic-park-le-club/page/87#post-5435328

I just got around to trying some things. The magnet coil in trex mouth looks good to me…but not sure what the expected behavior is on the coil test. The mouth responds when magnet coil is triggered. Not much else happens. Some other notes on the issue. She doesn’t drop the ball until a ball search is performed, or if I purposely tilt the machine. The ball drops right away then. There are other settings I tried like jaw strength dropping from 40 to 30. The thing is there are so many possible adjustments (ticks for example)…knowing where to start on this one is what I’m after. Last note for now, when she eats the ball and starts The multiball sequence, she does raise her head up, flap her jaw three times over the circle shaped ramp, and then just keeps the ball in her jaw.

Anyways, hoping the extra info triggers a next step idea

#7782 11 days ago
Quoted from seenev:

I do this. Plays don't really matter. Whenever you see sale posts that say "only 53 plays," I don't even believe it. You can never play the game and let it rot in a damp basement and it's worse off than a game with 5000 plays. Look at that recent "new old stock" Addams family that was recently listed. The thing was garbage but never played. Have fun with your game, take care of it, and don't worry about the number of plays.

I have to definetly agree with you there! I buy pins to play the crap out of them. Not to look at and turn around and sell with low plays. I bought a kiss pro with about 3500 games on it. It is probably my best and most reliable pin I have. All the kinks have been worked out and I keep it clean and waxed! Still looks great!

#7783 10 days ago
Quoted from Drac:

Just looking for some opinions on the Mezel Electric Fence Upgrade and also their Raptor Pen. Are these worthwhile and fit well in the game. Not tacky at all??
Thank you.
https://mezelmods.com/collections/jurassic-park-pinball-stern

I have both and I think they fit in very well.

#7784 10 days ago

I'm having great difficulties shooting the cross-playfield ramp with the upper flipper. I had the game for 2 weeks and maybe 200 games and I reckon I've only made the ramp shot 10 times in all of those games.

I've attached a photo of my flipper alignment from factory. Should this be adjusted or is it just me being horrible at pinball?

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#7785 10 days ago

Does anyone else not really care for the control room modes?

Rob

#7786 10 days ago
Quoted from Drac:

I'm having great difficulties shooting the cross-playfield ramp with the upper flipper. I had the game for 2 weeks and maybe 200 games and I reckon I've only made the ramp shot 10 times in all of those games.
I've attached a photo of my flipper alignment from factory. Should this be adjusted or is it just me being horrible at pinball?[quoted image]

Flipper looks a little off. Mine is dead centre with the post. Btw when I get a new nib title I try not to mod things like rubbers, mechs etc until I've dialed the game in and have played a fair bit to get my aim in. That way I know I haven't contributed to an issue. If the game plays rubbish oem I then try to solve the issue. Then if I replace rubbers that might be bouncer I know it's them and I may need to relearn the shots of piss the rubbers off. I replaced my flipper rubbers on gb with titan and it played crap, put in superbands and played better than stern ones. Just my thoughts that might help in the future.

#7787 10 days ago
Quoted from Drac:

I'm having great difficulties shooting the cross-playfield ramp with the upper flipper. I had the game for 2 weeks and maybe 200 games and I reckon I've only made the ramp shot 10 times in all of those games.
I've attached a photo of my flipper alignment from factory. Should this be adjusted or is it just me being horrible at pinball?[quoted image]

That looks pretty good.
Its not meant to be dead center with the post.

#7788 10 days ago
Quoted from Drac:

I'm having great difficulties shooting the cross-playfield ramp with the upper flipper. I had the game for 2 weeks and maybe 200 games and I reckon I've only made the ramp shot 10 times in all of those games.
I've attached a photo of my flipper alignment from factory. Should this be adjusted or is it just me being horrible at pinball?[quoted image]

Have you checked whether the ball can clip the screw head on the tower ramp flap? Run the ball over the screw to feel if it catches it as lots of people have that issue - if you do you can either grind a bit off the screw head, replace the screw with a different shaped head (but you may still have the same issue), some people have simply removed the ramp flap, or the alternative the most people seem to be doing these days is to replace the ramp flap with a Cliffy carbon fibre adhesive version.

Also what pitch do you have your PF set to? Keith indicated that is was designed to be played at 7 degrees. It might be worth changing the angle slightly to see whether it helps with the shot.

#7789 10 days ago
Quoted from WindRaidor:

I just got around to trying some things. The magnet coil in trex mouth looks good to me…but not sure what the expected behavior is on the coil test. The mouth responds when magnet coil is triggered. Not much else happens. Some other notes on the issue. She doesn’t drop the ball until a ball search is performed, or if I purposely tilt the machine. The ball drops right away then. There are other settings I tried like jaw strength dropping from 40 to 30. The thing is there are so many possible adjustments (ticks for example)…knowing where to start on this one is what I’m after. Last note for now, when she eats the ball and starts The multiball sequence, she does raise her head up, flap her jaw three times over the circle shaped ramp, and then just keeps the ball in her jaw.
Anyways, hoping the extra info triggers a next step idea

Are you referring to when T-Rex chews the ball - ie. she holds the ball in her mouth (held by the magnet) and open & closes her mouth a couple of times? As this is one of the sequences she'll do before she drops or throws the ball.

#7790 10 days ago
Quoted from Rob_G:

Does anyone else not really care for the control room modes?
Rob

Well you need to do them and Secure the Control Room to Escape from Nublar

#7791 10 days ago
Quoted from Drac:

I'm having great difficulties shooting the cross-playfield ramp with the upper flipper. I had the game for 2 weeks and maybe 200 games and I reckon I've only made the ramp shot 10 times in all of those games.
I've attached a photo of my flipper alignment from factory. Should this be adjusted or is it just me being horrible at pinball?[quoted image]

As Manny65 said check the screw head on the ramp entrance first to see if that's making contact with the ball. If it's not, then look to see if the ball is transitioning smoothly from the ball guide to the face of the flipper or if the ball is hopping away from the face of the flipper a bit. If it's hopping, then adjust the end of the ball guide out slightly so the ball transitions smoothly to the flipper. And if the transition to the flipper isn't the issue then try adjusting flipper power up or down to see if that helps.

#7792 10 days ago

Hi everyone. Joined the club with a prem a few weeks ago. It's my first pin and loving it so far.

While I was playing today a washer shot off from somewhere, took a while to locate where it came from but it seems to have come off a raptor plastic, I've circled the exact washer in the pic. I can't figure out, from both looking at the machine and looking at the manual how that washer stays in place. There doesn't seem to be a screw from underneath and the screw from above is no where near long enough to go through to that washer. Can anyone help? Thanks

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#7793 10 days ago
Quoted from NoSkills:

Hi everyone. Joined the club with a prem a few weeks ago. It's my first pin and loving it so far.
While I was playing today a washer shot off from somewhere, took a while to locate where it came from but it seems to have come off a raptor plastic, I've circled the exact washer in the pic. I can't figure out, from both looking at the machine and looking at the manual how that washer stays in place. There doesn't seem to be a screw from underneath and the screw from above is no where near long enough to go through to that washer. Can anyone help? Thanks
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Looks to me like that washer goes under post #4..screw 5 and washer 3 go under the plastic and into the bottom of that post.....??

#7794 10 days ago

This ^^^^

#7795 10 days ago
Quoted from JMCFAN:

Looks to me like that washer goes under post #4..screw 5 and washer 3 go under the plastic and into the bottom of that post.....??

Thanks for the reply. It's definitely from post #4, that post now doesn't connect to the plastic. Just to clarify you think the screw ive circled in purple goes underneath? I thought that was the underneath part for the yellow circled bit. Also weirdly just the washer came off, there's no loose screws floating around, confused.

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#7796 10 days ago
Quoted from NoSkills:

Thanks for the reply. It's definitely from post #4, that post now doesn't connect to the plastic. Just to clarify you think the screw ive circled in purple goes underneath? I thought that was the underneath part for the yellow circled bit. Also weirdly just the washer came off, there's no loose screws floating around, confused.
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No this one

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#7797 10 days ago

No you just have to get to it..... you probably have a lose screw and washer rolling around somewhere.......

#7798 10 days ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

Ooooh snap, I didn't know the truck direction changed which inlane was lit! This game is crazy lol

I have to laugh at this.

Quoted from Rob_G:

Does anyone else not really care for the control room modes?
Rob

I like them. They give no quarter. I have not finished one yet.

#7799 10 days ago
Quoted from JMCFAN:

No this one[quoted image]

oh I see! Thanks a lot. I was looking at the lines and to me that lined up with part 9 but I see that makes no sense and belonging to post 4 makes sense. Like I said my first pin so still learning how to read even the diagrams let alone anything else. Got some poking around to do to find the screw and other washer! Thanks again

#7800 10 days ago
Quoted from NoSkills:

Thanks for the reply. It's definitely from post #4, that post now doesn't connect to the plastic. Just to clarify you think the screw ive circled in purple goes underneath? I thought that was the underneath part for the yellow circled bit. Also weirdly just the washer came off, there's no loose screws floating around, confused.
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Yep it’s setup as JMCFAN describes on the bottom with a screw and washer going into the post. Here’s a pic of the top side setup. I tried to get a picture underneath too but it didn’t turn out very well. I’m posting it anyway though in case it helps.

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