Quoted from Noodlebox:

Good luck with that Scott. Truly.
But call me a cynic, methinks JJP will set up an agreement with you to seem like it's all being sorted out (like all previous conversations and promises), and then will find reasons not to make the games just yet until all other machines are made and paid for incl Ruby WOZ, AULE and outstanding orders for standards. They will schmooze you and reassure you while making sure they have a back door, and they'll use it.
I expect you will find some "get out" clauses in case something comes up that supposedly leaves JJP exposed somehow. Look for clauses that would allow JJP not to make your games for any reason at all ie potential liability if any other Oz Woz buyer not in your group decides to take some action.
JJP need to know this is the end of their line for stringing out Aussie WOZ buyers for 3 and a half years.
If JJP don't deliver this time, there is still one more thing you can do to get Jack's real attention.

Quoted from SadSack:

I hope they send a couple of saws with those 22 machines. I'm still curious who will receive, sell and divvy the proceeds since there are 3 times as many victims as machines.

Quoted from SadSack:

Who is going to receive the games? You?

Quoted from Whysnow:

arn't you part of the original company that was the start of all this????

Quoted from pauloz:

He was not part of the original Bumper that caused this mess, but he was part of Bumper no 2 who assured us all would be well whilst knowing full well that it was not and that the money was long gone.
I would not believe a word or what this liar has to say.
He has zero credibility and I am not quite sure why he is sticking his nose in.

Quoted from woka:

Box of noodles, Can of worms.. Same leopard, different spots.. The one who could never lie straight in bed. A business adviser one minute, an employee the next. To try and become the Savior of all things foul. A mouth piece for all.. FFS.
Good luck to all concerned - it'll happen eventually, and even better for never giving up..

Quoted from Noodlebox:

Blame me for the fiasco if you want an accessible identity who you can contact

Quoted from Noodlebox:

Anyway fellas, what I'm saying is I hope Scotty can pull it off but I fear Jack will just use the lawyers' involvement to buy himself some more time and excuses.

Quoted from Whysnow:

You may then also have the free time needed to work on the bigger project of extricating your head from your ass.

Quoted from spfxted:

Pix or it didn't happen...

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Quoted from Noodlebox:

.....What Farrell/Bumper did was wrong, in both iterations of the company. Jack himself has dirty hands as he had no intention of allowing the transfer of the franchise despite letting Bumper tell peop,e it was going ahead, and that changeover is what exposed Bumper's earlier shenanigans. This was luck for Jack, not a planned outcome for him......
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Quoted from Gomer1969:

Why would jack transfer the franchise rights if as you say Bumper was wrong in both iterations of the company?
I think Jack did the right thing by ending his involvment with the company. this whole thing is a cluster which is hopefully coming to the best end it can at this time.

Quoted from Andyj965:

I think it would be more appropriate to say that people completely mistrust you because of your excessive lying and condescending attitude rather than looking for an accessible identity to contact and blame for the fiasco. I'm can confidently say that I don't know a single person in the Australian pinball community that wants anything to do with you.

Quoted from Whysnow:

Best chances of their success would be for you to extricate yourself from this thread and ANY discussions on the matter.
You may then also have the free time needed to work on the bigger project of extricating your head from your ass.

Quoted from Noodlebox:

Best to leave me to my own contortions.

Quoted from Noodlebox:

I came in after all the games had been sold and the money already spent. I worked with what I was told. That was to be that the new business would take over the franchise and work with Jack to get the games, I have an email from Jack to another person saying that the Bumper changeover was a "just a formality", but since found Jack was already working behind the scenes to change distributor for someone who would pay more money up front - the change of Bumper ownership just gave him the chance to dump Bumper and pocket what he had been paid already. What Farrell/Bumper did was wrong, in both iterations of the company. Jack himself has dirty hands as he had no intention of allowing the transfer of the franchise despite letting Bumper tell peop,e it was going ahead, and that changeover is what exposed Bumper's earlier shenanigans. This was luck for Jack, not a planned outcome for him.
To add to this, I have since found out the unethical GM and one of the earlier directors appear to have a history of scamming people. Farrell has been trying to milk a US investor to set up another bar but hopefully the concerted efforts of three of us based in Australia have deterred the partner from letting Farrell get his hands on her money. I've also done what I can to get Farrell deported as an overstayer, but it's not in my power to revoke his visa.
Look I enjoyed selling pinball and amusement games, it was a fun industry, but knowing what I found out after working at Bumper I have no regrets leaving there even though it took 5 months to find another job and I have family to support.
Blame me for the fiasco if you want an accessible identity who you can contact, I don't mind, all I know is I did what I was paid for and then I left after finding out I had been misled on several things and have since tried to have this cancerous pairing excised. It doesn't get people's money back but it might get some closure and help prevent other scams from getting off the ground.

Quoted from Noodlebox:

If I was lied to and passed it on without knowing it was a lie then I wasn't lying intentionally.

Quoted from Andyj965:

Nice wording. IF is the important part of that sentence. The problem is that with the contradictions and deceipt displayed in many of your posts it is quite obvious that you did know you were lying.

Quoted from Andyj965:

Nice wording. IF is the important part of that sentence. The problem is that with the contradictions and deceipt displayed in many of your posts it is quite obvious that you did know you were lying.

Quoted from Noodlebox:

You guys are not seeing the logic, maybe because you don't want to because I am your only available vent - go ahead, but ask yourself this - Why would I protect someone who I found out to be lying to me?
I don't, I wouldn't, and I haven't. Maybe you should apply the same tar and feathers to all the other Bumper employees who have provided reassurance in other forums? But you haven't, why is that?
If my story changed, you think it might be because I found out something different to what I had been told and already reported?
As I said, ping me if you want, but I think I'm the wrong target.
Why not spend YOUR time chasing Jack? He has the games and the money.

Quoted from Noodlebox:

If my story changed, you think it might be because I found out something different to what I had been told and already reported?

Quoted from Noodlebox:

Why not spend YOUR time chasing Jack? He has the games and the money.

Quoted from Andyj965:

I think it would be more appropriate to say that people completely mistrust you because of your excessive lying and condescending attitude rather than looking for an accessible identity to contact and blame for the fiasco. I'm can confidently say that I don't know a single person in the Australian pinball community that wants anything to do with you.

Quoted from pauloz:

You may not have caused the problem but you sure as hell tried to hide it and tell us it was all OK .

Quoted from iceman44:

That pretty much says it all Noodle.

Quoted from iamabearsfan:

Ignore feature invoked.....sigh

Quoted from spfxted:

+1

Quoted from Noodlebox:

Good luck with that Scott. Truly.
But call me a cynic, methinks JJP will set up an agreement with you to seem like it's all being sorted out (like all previous conversations and promises), and then will find reasons not to make the games just yet until all other machines are made and paid for incl Ruby WOZ, AULE and outstanding orders for standards. They will schmooze you and reassure you while making sure they have a back door, and they'll use it.
I expect you will find some "get out" clauses in case something comes up that supposedly leaves JJP exposed somehow. Look for clauses that would allow JJP not to make your games for any reason at all ie potential liability if any other Oz Woz buyer not in your group decides to take some action.
JJP need to know this is the end of their line for stringing out Aussie WOZ buyers for 3 and a half years.
If JJP don't deliver this time, there is still one more thing you can do to get Jack's real attention.

Quoted from Mato:

Anybody want some.......

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Quoted from arcadenerd925:

Yeah me 2, thank jebus for the ignore button.

Quoted from Noodlebox:

You're a slow reader. I didn't hide anything. I said what was told me and when I found out different I said otherwise. I changed my story once it became clear to me that I was being misled. You would prefer I didn't?

Quoted from pauloz:

Getting really close to using language that could get me banned. What part of 'rack off' don't you understand. You are not helping here and you are not wanted here.

Quoted from pauloz:

Getting really close to using language that could get me banned. What part of 'rack off' don't you understand. You are not helping here and you are not wanted here.

Quoted from Noodlebox:

Interesting how if you don't like the message, you play the messenger. What part of "I didn't steal your money" don't you understand?

Quoted from pauloz:

I never said you stole our money, but you were the spin doctor for those that did and I, and plenty of others will never forgive you for the crap you told us. Now go away.

Quoted from Noodlebox:

Interesting how if you don't like the message, you play the messenger. What part of "I didn't steal your money" don't you understand?

Quoted from pauloz:

I never said you stole our money, but you were the spin doctor for those that did and I, and plenty of others will never forgive you for the crap you told us. Now go away.

Quoted from Noodlebox:

What part of "I said what I was told and then I found out otherwise and left soon after" don't you understand? Geez I must've been hopeless at my job if you can't separate the message from the people.
Oh wait, you believed what I had been told too. How does that make you different to me?
You should maybe expend your enmity and key strokes on Jack.

Quoted from Noodlebox:

What part of "I said what I was told and then I found out otherwise and left soon after" don't you understand? Geez I must've been hopeless at my job if you can't separate the message from the people.
Oh wait, you believed what I had been told too. How does that make you different to me?
You should maybe expend your enmity and key strokes on Jack.