I see a lot of potential here. Let me know if I can be of any help

Hey Brian,

Not sure if you're aware that I wrote a new windows installer for the P-ROC software suite that seems to have fixed the installation headaches for most everyone on Windows. I don't think saying that the "drivers don't work have the time" is even slightly accurate. It's the installation process with the old installer that was problematic for folks.

Anyway, I applaud Brian for not trying to hijack this awesome progress thread with a sales pitch for MPF or the Fast vs P-ROC nonsense. Plenty of other threads have this covered already. Since Fast has now started shipping hardware, I'm eager to hear from more real users what concrete benefit the Fast boards have, but again, not in this thread specifically.

MPF runs on both. P-ROC is compatible with your WCS's WPC-89 driver board so you could avoid buying driver boards or switch boards (if you were so inclined).

There's a good thread where I try to break down the Fast is cheaper pricing myth, here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/custom-game-p3-roc-or-fast#post-2580772

To be clear, they're priced about the same for custom builds. If you're able to reuse an driver board from a WPC, WPC-S, or WPC-95 era machine, I believe the P-ROC will come out to be cheaper.

There's a lot in that thread. I think some of it is helpful.

I am biased. I've been using P-ROC for nearing on four years and have spent a lot of time contributing code to that community (including PyProcGameHD+SkeletonGame and PyProcGameVGA before it).

I'm loathe to come into threads and advertise PyProcGameHD or the P-ROC/P3-ROC, but misinformation seems to always pull me in to defend it.

Something seems wrong with the Wiki. All the content is still there if you click on the source but the pages aren't being rendered properly. Weird. This was happening on someone else's site I visited last week. I'll let Gerry know.

The documentation page with wiring details (connector mappings) is here:
http://www.pinballcontrollers.com/index.php/products/p-roc/documentation

If you're running Windows, I have written a new one-click installer to get you going, here:
http://www.pinballcontrollers.com/forum/index.php?topic=626.msg14604#msg14604

I can link you to lots of great information about programming pyprocgame or PyProcGameHD, too.

Awesome advice. Because you are already installed, you can jump to reply #9

http://www.pinballcontrollers.com/forum/index.php?topic=578.0

That 9th post will get you a machine config and a few lines of code and you'll be flipping with your p-roc in the mix.

Also, everything he does in there should work with PyProcGameHD.

Once you're ready for it. I'll PM you my super empty first flips sample game (which is even simpler than the SampleGame for SkeletonGame).

Expect a second PM very soon

Sending a PM with a link to a custom stripped down yaml, starter.py, and config. Talk about service

You are all wrong. Use Sublime Text 2

Honestly, lots of great recommendations here. I think I like Komodo behind ST2, and Notepad++ less than those two, but any of these will be a huge upgrade

Congrats! It always feels awesome to get things working. I didn't put them in because I didn't know you still had them on your machine!

For future reference, please feel free to send me PMs with questions or post at "the other place" --you'll get answers very quickly

Sorry to hear this (especially this way), but I'm obviously glad you've found something that's a better fit!

The code and docs and stuff I wrote for you guys will live on to help improve the documentation for others, which is absolutely a complaint I hear loud and clear.

Fo what it's worth, I had your game flipping in under 20 minutes (yaml's plus simple.py) and can do the dmd stuff fast --but the challenge is to make it so others can get there just as quickly; the docs are clearly a huge hurdle to reaching that goal.

Anyway, glad you're set. Best of luck with MPF!

- Michael

No worries! If I can be of help in the future please don't hesitate to reach out!

That plastic print (and all the recent updates, really) look great. Keep up the awesome work. It's great to see how much fun you guys are having.

Now, we should all take an oath to stop developing licensed games and start inventing some new themes --you know, so we could theoretically manufacture/sell them!

You might be able to call the "customer relations" office at Universal studios in Orlando and have them connect you to the gift shop with the most minions stuff, and have them ship anything you want to you directly. The theme park gift shops ship things all the time (so you buy in store but don't have to pack it in luggage).

Labnip: what was the name of that shop, if you happen to recall?

Anyway, when you have them on the phone, don't tell them about your project. They will all love it and tell each other until someone too high up hears about it...

You guys are just awesome.

Adios amigos!