Happy to join the club, my LE is more than likely on the same truck as Belcaw

Looking forward to checking it out.

From a few posts above:

"Yeah, both wifi and bluetooth dongles are included and are in that cabinet control board. I just removed one, did the update, and put it back in place. The 1.04 code that shipped with mine didn't have the network stuff enabled, so I had to manually update to 1.06. Everything is working now."

Good to know, thnx for pointing this out. Expecting to get mine in a few days. Will try the USB ports by the coin door first and if that doesnt work, plug directly into the motherboard.

Loving this game, going to do a full write up later, but my current pet peeve is bricks to the inner loop. I adjusted the wire gate below the woody saucer up a smidge and that helped, but it's still not consistent. if its not right on that little flipper and doesnt have enough umph it just wont make it around that loop with enough power. Anyone else dealing with it? any tips? (i tried bumping the power a little on that flipper)

Got my game a few weeks ago, really enjoying it. Finally got some time to write up my thoughts

Surprisingly, my kids are really digging it (threw me because they are not big toy story fans). The new game interest will wear off eventually, but for now i am enjoying it.

From the beginning, this title was a "day one buy sight unseen" at the request of my wife. So who am I to complain? that being said, I am a big toy story fan myself so I was looking forward to it too. The reveal was a bit of a let down for me, like others I was expecting more. I also got a bit sucked in to the speculation thread where it was (and is still) a total bash fest. Very happy that I stuck it out and ignored all the hate. It's a very fun game that I am happy to own. Yes it's expensive, but there is just this feel, this "polish" on JJP games that is just on a different level. Things that stuck out for me:

- The lighting is awesome. You have to see it in person, video just does not do it justice. The marquee lighting around the duke kaboom landing spot, the hot rails and the RGB GI spot lighting is just insane. It's a total work of art.

- the ipad... it works, I like the info it displays, I don't have to look up at the backbox screen as much. I would have preferred more mechs (or make it an etch-a-sketch!) but I still would have wanted a screen somewhere in there, so it fits the bill.

- The layout: Fun Lawlor layout. Nothing crazy or too complex, but has some good flow. I don't think it is too easy at all (though I am no pro). Ball times are pretty average for me. A nice mix of makeable shots and tricky ones, combos, etc.

- Duke kaboom: Everyone in our house loves the jump ramp, not a shot we make every time but when we do everyone is screaming. Certainly not a complicated toy or mech, but it is just fun as shit to shoot.

- Code feels very polished and complete. I am sure they will tweak it more but I think they did a great job. It's got shots and modes my kids actually have a chance to complete but at the same time, complex fun stuff for the more advanced player. I think JJP did a great job of balancing a theme that appeals to non-pinheads and a game that can still be a blast for more experienced players.

- Not specific to this game, but just JJP's software platform, the camera, the code, the daily high scores, GC making the photo strip/reel. Although its lacking in crazy mechs/ramps, this does not feel like a stripped down game to me. It's just a complete and fun package.

My thoughts during unboxing:

- I did not have any issues with stuck balls or switches not working. Things worked fine right out of the gate.

- I did tweak the kaboom ramp, gabby gabby and the spinning wheel to be level/flush with the PF.

- Added cliffy switch slot protectors to the drops into the lanes.

- I bumped up the power on the buzz saucer, initially the pops kept sending the ball back in there over and over again, lol.

- I bumped up the power on the upper flipper, since my game is 6.8-6.9 this felt needed to make the loop shot more consistently

- Had issues with the woody saucer cleanly feeding the upper flipper for the loop shot. First i tried bending the one way gate bracket up a bit (there was some play in it, where it mounts underneath bunny and ducky, i also tightened those hex posts to keep it from moving back down), then i tried lowering the saucer eject power. This didnt do much for me. Another pinsider mentioned he actually increased it, I tried that and it works for me. Pretty happy with it now.

- PF looks awesome quality wise. Time will tell, but I am pretty happy so far, still plan to keep an eye on how things hold up specifically around posts/etc. But so far so good.

Time to go play some more!

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Sweet, you should grab one!

Ah, gotchya. Not something I would worry about at this phase. I'm not sure how the GNR release went, but for TS4 they had a grip of time to start building machines pre-release for stock. They also didn't launch it at a show so noone could play it. I think as people play it more and are actually able to give it a chance, It will sell. Only time will tell, but i think this title will do fine.

I would check with JJ @ Game Exchange (In the Denver area I believe) and see if they have one in the show room yet.

it should work straight out of the box. I assume there is some sort of hdmi cable and a power cable that works that thing, perhaps it rattled loose during transit.

Gabby is just a big drop target mech, can you manually bring her up and does she lock into place? does she drop when you hit her?

Next, go into switch test mode (matrixed switches) and look for the gabby switch. Is it green when she is down? does it change when you manually pull her up?

If the switch state doesnt change when she goes up, check the switch on the mech

I believe what is in front of the scoop is a sticker with mylar over it (or reverse printed), I would wonder if that is damage to the sticker and not the PF underneath but hard to say from the pics.

For the Duke Kaboom (And gabby gabby for that matter) the first thing i noticed when i unboxed mine was the same thing around the corners. But for me, it looks to be the mylar. Looks like they put the mylar down on most of the upper half and then cut out the hole/cutouts in the PF. Overall PF quality wise, I am happy enough with mine and it seems well protected. Time will tell i suppose. If you bought from a good dist, you could see if they would swap your game, if you bought it direct i would suspect you'll get a set of new scoop decals.

Pull up the PF and physically move the post up and down, is it binding at all? it may be rubbing against something and might need some adjustment. That is where i would look first before playing with any of the coil settings.

Edit: from your pic, is it touching the left side of the ramp plastic? ideally you don't want it touching/rubbing against anything.

Seems a little loud but not too bad. Head to settings / coils. Are your jump ramp settings default? Attaching a pic from mine

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#1, ignore the bash (I mean, speculation) thread. Soo much hate there from people with zero interest in this title.

#2, a few ads with people or flippers wanting to get out for a loss isn't a big deal. If your planning to keep the game at least a year + I think you'll be fine. A loss is always possible, but if that does end up being the case I dont think it will be that bad. Time will tell, but I think TS4 will gain in popularity over time like previous slow starter JJP titles.

Same here, so glad I went forward and grabbed one though, game is super fun. My kids, who are not huge TS fans proclaimed they would never play it before it got delivered. Now I can barely keep them out of the garage where the games are, my 7 year old son wakes up at 6:30am and asks if he can go play. lol. Not what I was expecting but a nice side effect seeing the whole family enjoy it.

Can someone do me a favor if you happen to have the PF up? I had an issue with the take a chance wheel just spinning on boot and found that the opto circuit board had come loose under the wheel. I was able to adjust it fine but found nothing is keeping it place.. I feel like there should be some e-clips or nuts or something there that maybe got missed?. I went to look it up in the manual and was not able to find that mech documented there (which I thought was strange, unless I have totally missed it). If you could snap a pic of what's holding on yours it would be much appreciated. Regardless, will open up a ticket with JJP

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It's the back of the take a chance wheel under the PF. I was zooming in to try and get a better idea of the posts that opto board sites on, will take a further out pic shortly.

Mine isnt too high, but was slightly off to one side which made it really difficult to get the lockdown bar on/off. All i did was just slightly loosen the nuts on the other side, took a screwdriver and a hammer and just give it a few good taps to center it and the tightened it back up.

Looks like they still need to add the spinning disc mech

When you say your wheel is going out of control, can you elaborate? Mine was spinning and spinning on start up (couldnt find "home") and it turned out the opto board was skewed underneath the wheel so I had to re-seat.

The scoop has such an odd shape on the cutout, curious to see what Cliff does for that. Standard switch slot protectors work fine on this game for the drops. Saucers would be nice if possible.

I believe that only adjusts the height of the corners when down against the PF, so you can make sure its smooth/level. I think it probably skews to the left to try and hit that loop shot properly.

What's the incline of your machine? regardless, I'd try pumping up the left duke kaboom flipper strength as you mentioned and see if that does it.

I've been thinking along the same lines (artwork around the pin). For us, TS4 as a theme has worked out fine, the carnival games remind us of hanging out at pixar pier in the California Adventure park and going on all the midway mania rides and games. I was trying to find some artwork for the pin area and stumbled upon this gentleman on Etsy that re-created (or copied, haha, not sure) some of the posters from that area of the park. I had them custom sized and printed onto white film for backlighting and bought these light boxes (also from Etsy). I really like how it turned out. The posters are kinda washed out in the first pic so i took a second and brought down the lighting/contrast.

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Ignore the pinside rating, sadly it has little meaning now a days. my .02 is to just let the haters hate and enjoy the game.

Agree, I'll take tiki party pinball over stewie pinball any day, lol. (no offence to any TS4 owners who also happen to have FG, love the show though)

Circling back on this, my understanding (based on testing a few things while I was cleaning the PF last night):

Super loops and bo peep loops are two different modes. Super loops being a mode on the wheel, bo peep loops being a scene to complete.

- When I hit 3 consecutive loops at any time during the game, I completed the bo peep loops scene

- When i was in the super loops mode, and hitting consecutive loops, i saw a message on the screen (after 2) 1 more to complete scene. I am assuming it meant the bo peep loops. I had to stop here as something else came up.

Curious to know if making 3 consecutive loops during super loops would achieve both the bo peep loops scene AND super loops mode.

Got some time to spend on the game without the family around the other day so I really got to dig in to it, I don't really get all the "this game is shallow" & "this game is too easy" hate. When I started the ball, I had to decide my plan.. am I going for road trip locks to get that our of the way to complete the scene? complete wheel modes and try for take a chance MB? work on completing all the games to collect characters for when I get carnival MB? and while I am doing this, keep an eye out for Gabby Gabby so I can grab Gabby Gabby MB... Bonus X... Duke Kaboom consecutive jumps... Rescue Forky.. Occasionally get it into the pops so i can have Buzz MB ready to stack when I am in another MB?

Completing the game and getting to the wizard mode is certainly more attainable that some of the other newer games I've played... but being a casual player and not playing this game hours a day (I just do not have the time), I don't see myself running out of things to do here any time soon. For me it has that "gotta play just one more time" feeling.

I played around with the slings and bumped the power in an effort to minimize hitting the outlanes (and to stop those crazy long volleys between them)

IMHO, many of the people complaining of shallow code/lack of depth are the ones who are relying on watching a stream or maybe playing it once or twice on location. Having owned it for a month or so now, I don't find it shallow or lacking depth at all. That being said, there is always room for improvement. Others will have differing opinions, which is fine. YMMV

Same here!

They (jjp) responded to a similar question on FB the same way (dist orders first) that being said, I got my direct LE pretty quick, I doubt direct CE buyers will have to wait very long, I would just email Jen

Agree, price will (and has) dip due to flipper miscalulations, but if your in it for the long game I believe it will rebound fine

Agree, someone makes these pls

I wouldn't take those points personally, It's just an oppinion. I could go either way on this one, but I like having options. Nice work on the 3D modeling.

Any chance you'd share how you made this? I'd be curious to give this a shot.

I believe they are still making them both, regardless, you should be able to find one in stock right now.

Seen this too, frustrating. Wondering what the deal with that is.

This. My lockdown bar was too high and a bit off to one side (and my screws were already high enough where any further the glass would hit them) so I loosened the nuts a little and a few light taps with a small hammer and I brought it down and moved it over a bit.

Can we confirm that if it plays "rescue forky" it should indeed always go to the left drop for duke kaboom? Trying to sort out if I need to look into my diverter mech as well. For me it rarely happens but when it does it's super annoying.

How are you liking it?

Any idea yet when yours is shipping?

Thanks for the write up, always curious to hear your thoughts on games. I agree that the software and presentation is what really sets TS4 and JJP apart from the competition. Also agree on the bally/williams feel of the games layout/shots, it's one of the reasons I like it so much and was able to move past the initial let down of Toy Story 4 VS Toy Story. As others have said, I love the approachability of this game, I am nowhere near completing it, but it's one of the first games I could actually see myself completing. My kids and wife can actually progress through the modes and scenes instead of my other games where they tend to just get frustrated and bail out.

For mine, I had similar issues to yours, this is what i did.
- Bump up the power for the upper right flipper
- Play with the power for the woody saucer eject (increase or decrease based on trying it and your personal pref)
- I had to adjust the 1 way gate/wire form directly to the right and below the saucer. For me, having the saucer eject, bounce off the metal back guide and then bounce on to that 1 way gate/wireform feeds the upper right flipper perfectly. This gate bracket is connected to the hex posts under ducky/bunny, once adjusted I had to lightly tighten these so it would not move (do not over tighten since these are connected to the PF)

Even with the adjustments, its a tight shot, but once dialed in I am able to make it pretty easily. I just shoot for the woody saucer and it feeds its perfectly 80% of the time on eject.

This! that is what the adjustment I noted above is aiming for. It bounces around between the guide and the gate and just plops right above the flipper perfectly.

Yup! super satisfying, I just need to work more on my right ramp shot. Need to get a little bit better at it.

Check the opto board under the wheel. It may have come loose during shipping. If its not in the right position the plastic pieces on the bottom of the wheel don't break the opto beams.

Same here. Mixed bag for me though, love the ce armor and rad cals, but like the LE art package better.

Check how the board is seated below the wheel mech. If it's off kilter the opto beams might not get broken all the time by the bottom of the wheel

Get a digital level with inclination. That way can check things both ways. Inclination and right to left level

Gabby is adjustable, but it's only 1 screw up and down, not like Duke which has 4

Nothing to look out for other than the typical wear and tear of a used game. No real flaws or major issues to look out for. As others have said, code is already polished and fun, but i assume we will see some updates down the road. Very underated game IMHO.

Dont sweat it, everyone remembers having thier first game and having to figure all this stuff out for the first time. Ask away here any time.

Strangely, I ended up increaseing the kick out strength. I also had to adjust (and tighten down carefully) the one way gate right above the upper right flipper. I pushed it up a little so that when it comes out of the saucer, it hits the rail, bounces off the gate and then feeds the flipper perfectly 80% of the time.

I bet the up-post that holds the ball is binding (on the ramp?) and flipping gives things enough of a shake to have it slide down

Yes, hard plunge should send it up around the right ramp/wire form. If its not, I would make sure the plunger is hitting the ball right in the middle and isnt hitting up against anything on the way.

I hadn't thought of it in depth until SuperMas77 mentioned it, if your plunging, you're ideally going for the skill shot. There really is no reason to hard plunge up the right ramp unless your trying to feed the right flipper for a shot. That being said, I like that I have the option, haha.

I powered up the game and the disc was spinning and spinning, thinking I had the previous issue of the board underneath needing to be adjusted (bottom of disc not clearing the optos), i powered it off and lifted up the PF, everything looked fine. Next I updated to 1.09 (I was still on 1.07) powered it up and it did the same thing. I decided to let it spin, it did this for a minute or so. While it was spinning i hit the start button and it said calibration in progress. Once it was done I started up a game and all was fine. Is this normal? does it just run through a calibration routine every X games?

Secondly, I've tried to adjust Gabby way back when Keith posted on here but I still cant knock her down with a direct hard front shot. But if i get a soft shot straight on or glance either cheek, I'm good. I've adjusted to this for the most part but curious if ya'll had better luck with Gabby adjustments than I have.

Lastly, I found that I was never getting super spinners. I always made great progress on the bo peep spinner but rarely made headway on the woody one. Looking more closely, I noticed the woody spinner wasnt spinning feely, it was hitting up against the alien plastic to the left (so it wouldnt spin nearly as much as it should). Once that was fixed getting super spinners become much more easy, so just tossing that out there.

Dont feel bad, I am nowhere near completing this thing and my GC score is like 5.5 mil, heh. As long as you're having fun, that's what matters.

Head over to free play florida if you can sneek out of the park this weekend, I would hope one would be there.

Pull the PF out to the first service position (pull it out, but dont tilt it up), you'll have easier access to the two screws/nuts holding down the fennel cake cover on the left side, then take out the 2 screws/nuts on the right side.

You can then remove it. The issue I was having was that the diverter was a little loose (see the bottom screw in the pic), and so it woul twist and rub up against the fennel cake cover. This was causing it to not come down during forkey rescue sometimes (which was really frustrating) or stick in the down position.

adjusting the position and tightening things up so it wouldnt twist so easy did the trick for me. However, that fennel cake cover is too small in the back IMHO, it needs more clearance for that diverter to operate freely. I wish there were more aftermarket options for that cover (that arnt super pricey).

That being said, it works good enough for me now. Nothing gets stuck and it comes down when it needs to (its just a little slow to return)

The second option I was going to consider if this thing was still giving me issues was a stronger return screen for the arm.

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Plug the USB into your PC, under file explorer, right click and view the properties of the USB drive. is it formatted exFAT? or FAT32? (or NTFS). Not sure if JJP games require FAT32 for the partition format of the USB stick, but I had do this yesterday when I updated my TMNT (re-format my USB drive to FAT32)

Also, its not going to load the update on boot like sterns do, you gotta go into settings, utility, update and select to update from USB. It will then search for the USB stick and try to download the files from it.

Strange! at this point I'd put in a ticket with JJP support and see what they say. I've never done a full install, so maybe that is why its wanting to do a reboot.

How? Where? I definately need one of these.

Same with me (although admittedly, I am ahving a bit of CE envy now)

My wife is pretty crafty, so I am thinking I can get some help on this, LOL. Did you buy a shooter rod and with the acrylic ball on it and then paint it? care to share where you got it?

Thnx!

No worries. I did not end up replacing that spring, I just heard somone else in this thread mention they did. Mine has worked fine since tightening things up and adjusting the position of the cover a little. The key is, try it under test mode witht he cover off, if it functions fine you might just need to adjust the cover (there is a little bit of slack/slop on mine so i could move it around a smidge before tightening those 4 screws). If you mention the diverter to JJP in a support ticket, and that its having some issues returning, they may just send you a stronger spring. Let us know what they say if you go that route.

My .02, update your profile so people know where you are located. Most areas have a local thread so that you can talk to others in your area. do a search or ask for help finding it. You'll find most pinheads friendly and happy to help, also a fun way to make some new friends that would probably be more than happy to help make a minor tweak. More than likely something is binding/touching the plunger or it's not hitting the ball square in the middle and needs some adjustment.

Agree, enough spamming the club thread. Try your regional for sale thread. Also, check out the toy story pinball facebook group.

I would try a few things:
- Unplug and re-plug both ends of the HDMI cable
- Leave the HDMI cable unplugged, when the game turns on, I would assume you'd see some kind of message on the screen from the monitor (that its on, nothing plugged in, etc etc)
- If you got another HDMI cable hanging around, try swapping it in to rule out the cable being bad.

It's there so if you have to replace it the notch matches up with the wheel. 100% normal

It's not by location, depends on when you ordered it. I would reach out to sales and see where you are in the queue.

Thanks for posting this, missed it earlier. gonna give this a try. Although I have adjusted my playing to always go for her cheeks instead of a front on shot, she drops every time that way.

I have my pitch a little steeper than normal, maybe 6.9. I ended up turning up the power on the mini flipper because I didn't feel like it had enough power to get around the loop at that pitch. I can make two loops easy when fed from the woody saucer (maybe 50% of the time?) 3 in a row is more rare, maybe 20% of the time.

I always try to start super loops on the wheel first so if I happen to get 3 in a row at any point I've already qualified the scene and will complete it. Nothing sucks more than getting 3 loops in a row and seeing the damn message about it not counting because you didn't qualify the scene, lol.

A little soon for it to be a bad switch. I'd pull the PF out to the service position since that guy is kinda hard to get to, pull the switch cover off and just make sure its connected, make sure it's actually making contact when that wire gate goes both ways, etc. It's possible something is disconnected at the switch or it just needs adjustment. If it's still not working after that, open a ticket with JJP, they'll send you a new switch.

If its not clicking, it could be as simple as a little extra bend of the thin metal piece coming off of it. Getting the cover off (and maybe just pull the switch out) should give you a feel for what the issue is. But yeah, had plenty of issues with my TMNT too, haha. Half the fun of pinball is keeping them up and running.

The usual new pinball stuff: check switches and make sure things are registering as they should, check for any damage (cab, legs, lockdown bar, etc). Check the plunger, make sure its hitting the ball square in the center and not binding on anything.

TS4 specific stuff: make sure the kaboom jump ramp, gabby gabby pop-up and spinning wheel are as level as possible with the PF. Make sure the spinners are spinning freely (on mine, the woody spinner was rubbing against the plastic next to it). Try the woody saucer eject, some have had to play with the coil power settings (more or less) so that it feeds the upper right flipper nicely (I also had to play with the one way gate right above that flipper so that the ball would bounce off that and feed nicely to the fliper). Check the ramp diverter on the left side, just go into test mode and activate it several times, make sure its going up and down and not binding on the plastic cover.

Other than that, play and enjoy your new game!

Don't rely on the bubble level, use an app on your phone or buy a digital level with inclination. This will allow you to check left to right to make sure its level that way as well. There is a star post beneath and to the right of that one way gate where it sticks, if the machine is tilted to the right I could see it resting there. If that isnt it, check that gate to make sure its moving freely. If they did a pour job on the wire bending or if it's binding I could see that holding on to the ball as well.

No big problems that I am aware of other than the ocassional QC issue.

Others can chime in, but looks normal to me. Most important thing is to make sure it's level

agree on this, I'd try these suggetions before messing with the hangers, etc. You can also adjust the lockdown reciever (I had to move mine slightly to the left so the lockdown bar would fit in there nicely)

Wish I would have gotten a CE, but as a buyer right when they were released, i saw all the CE's get grabbed up and figured the only way I coulda got one was to pay a flipper way over it's worth. Hindsight! lol. that being said, love this game, CE or LE they are beautiful machines.

True, I do like the blue and prefer the LE cab art over the CE, but yeah, the topper looks pretty cool

I had the same problem. The issue for me was: the screw on the bottom of the diverter coil was loose which allowed it to rub up again the side of the cover. This was causing it to stick and be un-reliable. I took the cover off, removed the diverter, tightened up the screwp, re-installed (I also adjusted the cover a bit) and it's been good to go ever since.

Details and pictures are on my original posting in this thread: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/we-are-all-toys-the-jjp-toy-story-4-owners-club/page/32#post-7246250

When you were trying to start it and it wouldnt boot up, what would you see on the screen?

Ok, next: normally when you power up the game, a little light show will happen with the inserts and lights on the PF before the PC screen comes on, is that happening?

(trying to sort out if this is an issue with the PC, or power to the entire game)

if the majority of the time it boots up fine but ocassionally resets during the game, I would look in the backbox where the PC mainboard is and just check the plugs (CPU FAN, etc) I would also unplug and re-plug in the SSD drive (assuming they still use these).

if it often is not booting up at all, thats why i asked about the little light show on the PF that starts as soon as you kick the power on, if that is NOT happening, perhaps there is an issue with the power supply (loose cable, etc or maybe its just a bad unit)

Keep us posted, sucks when you cant enjoy a new toy.

Go into switch test mode with glass off, manually flip a flipper bat, does the eos switch activate? If all are failing there is likely a loose cable for that series of switches.

The fennel cake bldg houses the diverter, if that is getting stuck down or up, I had to adjust mine. details here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/we-are-all-toys-the-jjp-toy-story-4-owners-club/page/32#post-7246250

If you are talking about the post that locks the ball before the fennel cake bldg, if there is something binding, it can get stuck up (or not pop up at all) so I would just check the coil/mechanics under the PF and see if it works smoothly or if it is rubbing or getting stuck on something.

No listing on their store for TS4 parts yet, you have to call or email (I suggest calling, and if they dont answer, leave your info)

Mine only drops when i get a soft shot her way or glance off either side. I tried the adjustments Kef mentioned but didn't have a lot of luck, care to share how you adjusted yours? unfortunately, i dont think there is much to be done about her getting dirty, that is just one mech that is gonna need an ocassional cleaning if you get a decent amount of traffic/plays.

For the skill shot, i think the only way to make it easier is to put a softer spring on the shooter.

I don't think that is normal, I whipe mine down maybe once a month and she stays pretty clean

I am thinking, stronger spring perhaps. Maybe play it with the cover off to watch how it behaves.

I'd love to see that meat and potatoes update but I wont hold my breath, haha. I hope it comes some day though for sure.