Have a CE on order but bought an LE yesterday after playing it day 1. Put 3-4 hours on it tonight, this thing is magic. Only complaint might be be long ball times, but the code is really good, doesn’t get boring. Only stopped to go to bed.

People walking away from this before playing it because it doesn’t have a $50 mech in it are nuts, will regret it once everybody realizes how good it is. I was bummed about #4 as well, but them I realized I’m 48, haven’t thought about the movie Toy Story (other than hearing about it coming from JJP) in 10 years (when my kids watched it), why do I care as long as the integration is good. And JJP did a nice job of working around the license to bring a lot of Buzz and Woody.

After close to 100 plays, still really happy with this game, the way it shoots, the satisfying shots/combos, the awesome lightshow, and the call-outs/music. Originally I thought this shooter was easy, because I was taking the easy shots. Now that I’m more familiar with rules, I’m taking the harder shots (road trip lock and believe it or not the narrow scoop), and missing is somewhat punishing (in a miss the shot in Wonka sort of way, draining, outlanes are hungry for misdirected balls). Also, the Lawlor “pops to drain” does exist in this design and got me quite a few times today!

Not as regular as Wonka. I actually like the 4 pop bumpers with the laser beam sound effects and the super fast action. It’s sort of a safe space to hit to get a short breather although a couple came down the pipe quick out of there!

it worked last week, but had some problems over the weekend and still wasn't working as of last night (shows me logged in as ball 2 with 990k points, but that's not what's happening on my machine!)

Haven't tried today.

I had to do the same with the USB port.

I thought my clock was not syncing as well, but the series of buttons you have to push to choose to get it to save is confusing, took me a few tries. I finally got it to save on the correct timezone, and the clock works fine on 1.05. That could have something to do with was was confusing Scorbit.

same guy is selling a Black Knight for $12k, that's a troll.

Anybody know what angle the flippers are meant to be mounted at on TS4? I ask because they come more horizontal than I like. Interestingly my Wonka CE came with them aligned to the inlane guides (which I like), but the new Wonkas came like this TS (bent up a little for lack of better description). I'll probably move them down to a more drooped position (which will make the left ramp backhand tough if not impossible), but just wondering if this is how the assembly line person decided to mount them, or if I'm going against something Lawlor designed!

Wonka is my favorite game, I’ve got a CE. Also have a GnR CE that I don’t think that I’ll ever sell because its so cool, but not crazy about the way it plays, so super satisfying shots. TS4 is much more like Wonka, same draw to hit start again, but easier, longer ball times. Wow factor wise, GnR probably wins, but just not that fun to me.

The carnival modes are definitely improved with the big LED screen, knowing how many shots are left. I didn't use it for the first 50 games because I'm not used to having that information so visible. I didn't mean to make it look like I'm dogging GnR, if I were to have friends over (that are my age) to show them how cool pinball machines are, GnR would be where I'd start and we'd have a blast! But if I'm out by myself with an hour or so, it's Wonka every time (and I'll throw in an Elwin design here and there).

Wonka a good right orbit spinner rip from the upper left flipper to Wonkavator lock. The upper right hand Lawlor shot (on Wonka its the saucer, but TAF Vault, TZ quick lock/free ball shot).

TS4 - 3rd/4th shot on the Forky combo (center scoop). Duke Kaboom Ramp (feels good every time!).

The GnR center spinner is a good shot but probably the easiest shot of the game. I don't mean to dog GnR, I have a CE that is bolted to the floor forever because it's such a crowd pleaser, but it's just not my favorite shooter. It's clearly not the designer, POTC (sitting right next to my GnR) has some top level fun shots!

After about 150 games played, the shine is worn off a little and I've got a couple of comments/questions (trailing my first impressions of playing it, not just looking at it, which were very good):

-I can't get the Bo Peep Loops scene done. Been through all the others (assuming if it flashes it means you started but didn't finish but still counts to get you to the wizard?), maybe I can't even get it started. What do I need to do to start/finish that scene? I might need to adjust that gate above the small flipper. Had to repair that switch which came undone and had to loosen the screw that held that gate to get to it, since I put it back together that loop is much harder, the gate doesn't necessarily settle the ball for the upper right little flipper. But still, not sure what i'm trying to do there to get that scene lit/finished.

-The slings drive me nuts. When I first place this day one on location, maybe it wasn't levelled right, but the slings banged it back and forth for a good 30 seconds, multiple times, very annoying and slows play. On mine at home it's more like 5 seconds and then finally to an outlane (even with all the nudging in the world, that left outlane is hungry). Turned up to 50 (from 35), and didn't really make a difference. GnR seems to be the same way with those lazy slings, haven't noticed it as bad on Wonka (maybe I'll check those coil strengths).

-I've scored 11 million something, and basically did everything except the bo-peep loops and whatever comes after. I'm seeing scores 4-5 times that, assuming I need to learn to work the playfield multiplier. From what I can tell, the only way to get it is the spinner wheel, hit the side target, and then 2x lights. Hitting Duke Kaboom moves it up from 2x to 3x, 3x to 4x, etc. Is this right?

-Extra ball should require a little more work, feels cheap when it's the first item on the spinner.

Installed 1.06 and seems to be a little harder to light the Carnival lock, what's the recipe behind getting it lit?

I just shot 19 million without the benefit of a multiplier, took forever. Went through most scenes twice. Couldn’t do the wizard because I can’t figure out the Bo-Peep loops. I guess I need to learn the multiplier and Bo-peep scene!

My woody spinner seems to be mostly stuck open )pic attached), so not getting credit for hitting it, ball just passes under. Any suggestions?

Will try tomorrow!

Code 1.06 has those Benson posts going nuts in one of the modes.

Yes

I put new balls in just to not have to cut the "goodie" bag open. Here's what I had to do on mine:
-right flipper was binding/weak and stuck up after about 30 games. Had to loosen the bolt holding the flipper under the playfield and re-gap it (give it some up/down play). Allowed the piston to move freely in the coil sleeve.
-right return ramp switch (under the two characters) backing came off and ended up in my shooter lane (after about 15 games). I picked it up, and then took another 20 or so games to realize that switch was not mounted, so fixed.
-left diverter ramp switch (after the diverter on the left ramp returning to the right inlane) somehow bound up and was saying stuck closed. Had to pop the tiny switch button out with a dental tool (it somehow got stuck down), and then adjust the mounting position so that the switch arm would move freely. It's a tight fit between the wire forms. It's also a really ugly switch, somebody should make a magnetic replacement.
-woody spinner was getting stuck horizontal, so ball would roll right under it. was catching on the plastic piece to the left, had to adjust it.
-skill shot (woody spinner) saucer - turned it up to 20 so that it would feed the ball down to the right flipper better (at the default it was bouncing it off the guide making it hard to hit with the small upper right flipper).
-I like Titan flipper rubber, so replaced the flipper rubbers it came with.

Glad you asked? lol

For the record, on my Wonka CE and GnR CE, I didn't have to do anything, still really haven't (after many plays). So this is sort of a first for me with JJP, more common with the new Sterns. I heard the early POTC's were a bit of a bear to get working right out of the box.

On mine the spring was fine it was just mounted incorrectly.

The newest thing I've learned about pinball repair / maintenance- tighten those lockbar screws to lower the lockbar. For the longest time I thought backing them out to support the bar was the trick (and should have been smart enough to figure out that it wasn't working!) Duh on me.

Mine did that too but you just have to keep navigating around, read the terms and conditions, accept, and go back and eventually it will give you the traditional network options. Not sure the specific steps.

Yeah I wouldn’t use that wrench for anything.

I had that exact same problem, just shook loose during shipping.

I've not had this happen, even with the early code. I think I'd call support on that one.

No it's just stubborn on some direct hits (I've seen a few), probably just needs some adjusting. No different than the MM trolls.

After 250 or so plays, still enjoying the game, reached the “meet me at the carousel” several times and almost all the way through. Those “easy” shots get harder in a final wizard mode! I think I’m pretty good (not a pro by any means), some shots are easy (so easy and fun for noobs), but there are easier games out there (Monster Bash, Theatre of Magic, and MM are a few that I own).

I don’t think this game tops my favorite, Wonka, but it’s a good game and I’m glad I have it, it had and will get tons of plays. The cons after the newness wears off for me are the soft, slow, and bouncy slings, and the pops. Between the two of these you can watch your timers erode without even getting to touch the ball. Hoping they can do something in the software to stop the timers (ball save, modes, etc) while the game plays itself. I know I can maybe make adjustments myself or the coils strengths, but I like to play the game the way it was designed to be played.

I actually dialed my skill shot/woody eject up, and it feeds really nice now, comes out softer. Counter-intuitive but worked.

Pretty close, but I thought MB was easier. Finished it in fewer total plays.

Character collection (or qualifying) builds towards lighting the lock. Definitely related. Can’t lock during a character mode, but it comes back on after finished with the mode (I think).

This in my opinion is the hardest scene to complete but with practices becomes very doable. Not easy though. I changed my scoop eject to 20 (which is higher than default) and it puts it right in the flipper every time.

If you start by focusing on this by default you’ll knock out the spinner scene too.

Some of mine look like the surface of a golf ball!

I believe it’s the big metal arm switch on the left ramp return after the diverter on the wireform (returning to the right in lane). Mine was jammed closed, it’s a tight fit. Mine needed adjustment.

I've got mine right next to my Wonka now - both made it from the pool house / pin hall to inside the house (and still married). They are two great games to go back and forth between. I'm quite excited to get the CE (even though I've already got an LE). The more I play, the less I understand the vitriol towards this game, ranked 145? Give me a break! Although my buddy chose to chill under Wonka.

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One of these ones is not like the other (but not for long). Lermods backbox LED’s bring the cabinet to life. I chose cool white for TS4, may go warm for Wonka. Easy 5-min install.

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Makes no sense why it’s rated so low. I really enjoy it.

The people that say this game is easy because they watched a pro's webcast, are greatly mistaken. There are a few easy shots. There are also a few really hard shots (that you need to make to progress) that are punishing if you miss.

That's what tells it all, 163 is fake news.

I agree with this. I lucked out and got one of the unsold wonka CE’s that was sitting at JJP when they didn’t sell, and it’s got great value now. We all know the pirates story as well. TS4 had some factors working against that type of story (starting with 1000 vs 500), but I think it will be fine if value , and worst case, JJP just took the flippers out of the equation and it’s worth MSRP down the road. My 2 cents, looking forward to my CE!

My plunger rubber/e-clip was catching the autoplunger and it was hitting the ball, weakly. Adjusted the positioning and fixed it right up.

This is a mode, and it’s pretty cool (and annoying when it rejects a shot to SDTM)! For whatever reason, In any other machine than TS4, it would count as a mech!