I am having some sort of issue when I enter the World Cup final Los Angeles match. When I shoot the final draw to start the match a ball comes into the shooter lane. I shoot that ball and then the one comes out of the final draw. Then another ball loads into the shooter lane. I don’t shoot it because I like to play with 2 balls then another ball loads into the lane until all of the balls are in the shooter lane. It isn’t supposed to do that. What can I do to fix that. All other aspects of the game seem to be working with no issues.

Any help is appreciated

The shouldn’t load ball after ball without shooting one. It is stacking all of them in the shooter lane and you can’t clear it because there are 3 balls in the lane. I will check the switch and see if it is working but if it weren’t wouldn’t it keep loading balls at the start of a game or when you start final draw for regular multi ball?

I have a video I will upload. The shooter switch works as it should in the test mode and all opto in the trough are working as they should.

Here is the video
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SaSSMqCnpeuFGN6yZwwkgndtwmpDPNyS/view?usp=sharing

not sure what you mean by 2 physical locks on the left mini playfield with the maganet

With a ball sitting in the lane it closes. What is weird is that it only happens in wizard mode. If you get the striker multiball then it doesn’t do it. Nor does it try and launch balls continuously when you start a game or enter final draw.

Yes I did a switch test I will do one and upload a picture to show you what I am looking at in the switch test if that will help

Here are the switch test photos one with the ball our an one with the ball in the lane

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The one that is 2 above the ball shooter lane? The ball shooter lane works as it should.

I have a plastic shim in it

Game was showing where balls were. I had 4 in the trough and one on the shooter lane

I tried wiggling the connectors and nothing skipped out. I tried knocking the trough and nothing went off. The opto boards are replacement boards. I do have the originals as well but when I got the game I was having a trough issue and replaced the opto boards. The issue turned out not to be an opto issue. I have noticed however that when launching a ball that sometimes the optos on the coin toss do not see the ball. Could that be related or a separate issue. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t. I see them in the switch test as being closed in column 5 like they should. I need to put something in front of the sensor to test it.

All optos work in the switch test using a card to block the beam. I tried banging on the area and wiggling that switch and nothing went off. Not seeing any bulging capacitors and connectors all look good.

Can someone conform that during the final match with Germany that you launch a ball then the one comes out of the final draw scoop and then one enters the shooter lane and waits for me to shoot it. I score a goal and another ball enters the shooter lane even though one was in the lane already. It should load another ball and doesn’t continually load balls like mine is doing. Just want to verify.
I just find it odd that the only time it tries to keep loading balls in the trough is during he final mode.

Ok I understand about the terms. I have a multimeter can someone tell me where and how to check the voltage.

They are new regular balls are carbon balls different. If they were magnetized wouldn’t that cause the issue on any ball launch?

Voltmeter broke I will get a new one and test it Wednesday night.

Do you think it could be a rom issue? Is this an aftermarket rom?

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New volt meter and tested all parts and everything checked out fine.

Here are the voltages

18v=16
12vR=12.15
12vU=14.4
5v=5.2

next on the list to try. Don't want to lose all my scores but oh well, I will give it a go.

Tried a factory reset and a rom change. Still no change in the game. Still putting out multiple balls in the shooter lane during the final with Germany. Not sure where to go from here. Any thing else to try?

are those switches supposed to be soldered or use the connector?

Reseated the ribbon cable, pounded on the board with and without the balls no switched triggered. Here is the photo with the balls out.
GRUMPY I cut the connector and soldered the wires to the switch as well.

The game is still kicking out ball after ball when one is sitting in the shooter lane.

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I checked last night and put it in switch test and let it run for a bit and the rear opto for the coin toss wasn't showing up but it will test and work intermittantly. I have noticed that at any given time the optos on the coin toss will work and the next time one won't register that did before and another will that didn't before. Should I start with replacing the optos or what. I have cleaned them.

I plan on checking all wires going to all the optos in the game.

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So after checking some optos tonight I traced back to the 10 opto board. When I bumped or wiggled the j3 connector the optos went nuts. I checked everything I knew and it seemed right but every time I wiggled it they went on and off. Seems to be the issue maybe there. Should I replace the board, already is a replacement board or the connector. If the connector where do I find one to replace one of those king I am not familiar with them.

I posted a picture of front and back of the 10 opto board. To see if anyone sees something that is off.

I did get one game where the wizard mode only put one ball in the shooter lane and waited until I launched that ball to load another after messing with that connector and board. Then the next time I noticed that one or more of the coin toss optos wasn’t registering and then in the wizard mode it started spitting out multiple balls. So I think that is where the issue my lie.

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I don’t have the original 10 opto board I have the original trough opto boards. I did swap them back in and it started trying to load balls immediately when starting the game instead of only in the wizard mode.

So I ordered another replacement 10-opto board and installed that in last night and the issue went away. I believe the issue is a two part problem. One being the board and solder points and the other being the connector. It was still sensitive after installing the new board so that may need to be redone. It is one of IDC connectors I am going to replace with a molex and run both wires out of the same pin.