Birmingham, AL
Thanks to Jack Danger aka Dead_Flip and Scott Danesi for making this happen. Cheers
Here is the link to Jack's page to watch. Live Right Now
https://www.twitch.tv/dead_flip
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Utrecht
I watch till the stream crached. Interesting comment from Charlie of Spooky Pinball: adding a ramp to such a game would add $100 to the bill of material, but when the game doesn't have a ramp people expect it to be $1000 cheaper which isn't the case. Here I was hoping this could be a $2500 game built from mainly standard parts... Maybe as a kit?
Quoted from unigroove:I watch till the stream crached. Interesting comment from Charlie of Spooky Pinball: adding a ramp to such a game would add $100 to the bill of material, but when the game doesn't have a ramp people expect it to be $1000 cheaper which isn't the case. Here I was hoping this could be a $2500 game built from mainly standard parts... Maybe as a kit?
I think at this point, in 2017, with all the companies in the market, if there was a way to make "cheap pinball" it would be done. I think that's impossible. The Stern $4k Spiderman seems to be as low as things are going to go. Not from greed, just from the reality of such complex machines and such small production runs.
I do want to say that the game does look very cool and unique. Hats off to Scott on the achievement, and the music is really cool.
The game does seem very random and brutal at times. I wonder because of the cool Ball Save led insert, whether more Ball Save rules could be added to the game, to help make up for the brutal bounces. I'd love to play it some day.
Quoted from frolic:I do want to say that the game does look very cool and unique. Hats off to Scott on the achievement, and the music is really cool.
The game does seem very random and brutal at times. I wonder because of the cool Ball Save led insert, whether more Ball Save rules could be added to the game, to help make up for the brutal bounces. I'd love to play it some day.
Brutal is kind of the point though. It's like a modern Flash Gordon, it beats you up and you want more, and when you have a good game it's really satisfying.
Quoted from oohlou:That is a nice design! Looking forward to playing at TPF!
Nice, didnt know it was going to be at TPF. Cant wait to check it out.
Merthyr Tydfil
I should think one of the big reasons that players over-value ramps in terms of raw cost is down to game flow. As soon as you put a ramp in there, the whole style, structure and dynamic of a game instantly changes around it. It's not impossible to create decent flow without a ramp, but it does become considerably more difficult. This game seems to have pulled it off quite well, it doesn't look too bare, and I love how the in-lines are used as ball locks.
I love how 2 $50 ramps make the perceived value of a new game go from $2500 to $5000+.
This game has an LCD screen AND individual scoring displays. The cost to do this is more than the cost of 2 ramps.
Basic game BOM costs from a *stripped down* playfield to a *toy filled* playfield are about $300.
Take note Scott; glue a couple plastic nuclear towers and a duck on your playfield, add 2 ramps, and charge $8000.
Terry.
Quoted from pinballlife:I love how 2 $50 ramps make the perceived value of a new game go from $2500 to $5000+.
This game has an LCD screen AND individual scoring displays. The cost to do this is more than the cost of 2 ramps.
Basic game BOM costs from a *stripped down* playfield to a *toy filled* playfield are about $300.
Take note Scott; glue a couple plastic nuclear towers and a duck on your playfield, add 2 ramps, and charge $8000.
Terry.
In for the Duck LE.
Quoted from bangerjay:I shoulda trademarked the damn ducks
In for Banana Hammock LE.
Conversation in another thread was discussing build your own kits.
I would love to build this game. Would be a great project, and Scott is a great ambassador for Pinball. Have used his mods and has always been helpful with tech help on my BOP 2.0.
BOM it out, send me the parts and a bill bro...
Melbourne
T&A (Total an Nihilation) looks pretty fun. Great work on layout, lighting and sounds. 
Color me impressed.
Quoted from pinballlife:I love how 2 $50 ramps make the perceived value of a new game go from $2500 to $5000+.
This game has an LCD screen AND individual scoring displays. The cost to do this is more than the cost of 2 ramps.
Basic game BOM costs from a *stripped down* playfield to a *toy filled* playfield are about $300.
Take note Scott; glue a couple plastic nuclear towers and a duck on your playfield, add 2 ramps, and charge $8000.
Terry.
what is a realistic purchase price on this game? I am easily in at 6k! 6500 even seems more than fair!
Quoted from Whysnow:what is a realistic purchase price on this game? I am easily in at 6k! 6500 even seems more than fair!
I would be shocked if this game could be made for that (once finished) without some serious cost cutting happening.
Quoted from Nelly:I would be shocked if this game could be made for that (once finished) without some serious cost cutting happening.
good to know. I know it is jam packed with stuff.
Scott, just tell me a # and when I can come build one!
Thank you guys very much for the great feedback on the game! I really appreciate it.
Total Annihilation will indeed be at MGC, so be sure to check it out!
Thanks again,
--Scott
Auckland
Quoted from aobrien5:I'll bring my Sac.
I will bring my sac as well , maybe Scott will bring a rack so we can put them on the glass .
Quoted from TheNoTrashCougar:Thank you guys very much for the great feedback on the game! I really appreciate it.
Total Annihilation will indeed be at MGC, so be sure to check it out!
Thanks again,
--Scott
So, when can I buy one?
Thanks
I'm very impressed with this machine from concept to execution. Well done. Love the light show. I especially like the wave effect that comes off each hit of the pop bumper.
Skip the ramps. Yours is a modern take of the single level table era where some of my favorite machines come from. Firepower, Meteor, Black Hole, Spirit, Spectrum etc., and nobody is building pins in that space.
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