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Was Williams Satin Doll a flop?

By mrbanjo

4 years ago

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#1 4 years ago

See one for sale at 200 no one wants it. Looks like a bad design
and a lot of open space in middle of playfield along with 2 unusual pop bumpers to the strange Lower left side
(4 flipper) 3 flippers down...... one flipper midway.
Any one have one?

#2 4 years ago

pretty sure norm clark said it was his least fave game design (or pat hand which is the 4 player)..

it's a skidder to play but man i love that backglass.

#3 4 years ago

I played a well set up Satin Doll about a year ago at a show. It was a good player. Didn't care fro the theme/art - but it was fun to play. Probably should have bought it and brought it home.

At $200 I'd say buy it for sure if condition isn't bad.

#4 4 years ago
Quoted from illawarra92:

pretty sure norm clark said it was his least fave game design...

Correct, as described on page 74 of The Pinball Compendium 1970-1981 by Michael Shalhoub.
amazon.com link »

Also Norm Clark's last design for Williams before leaving to become head of game design at Bally.

#5 4 years ago

I've played a Satin Doll a few times. I used to own a Pat Hand. I gave it away for free so that gives you a pretty good idea of what I thought of the game play on it.

The two bottom pop bumpers are DC powered and are fun when they spit the ball right between or right past the flippers. The stand up targets aren't as much fun as drop targets for most people.

It really comes down to whether or not you like collecting bonus and points on the rollover buttons. I don't and thus the reason why I gave mine away. But for $200 it's hard to go wrong. If you don't like it you can always resell it and maybe even make a few bucks.

#6 4 years ago

Been for sale awhile still pondering over it

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#7 4 years ago

At $200 take it !

#8 4 years ago

I would buy any decent shape EM for $200. Go get it!

#9 4 years ago

Can't lose at that price. And you may actually find you like playing the game. I liked the one I played.

Go get it !

#10 4 years ago

That's a nice looking Satin Doll! When you get it, ,treat those pop bumper caps with kid gloves. I think they are the prettiest pop bumper caps ever made, marbleized translucent beauties. For some strange reason, Williams only put these 'gear' style caps on a few of their games and they are impossible to find.

The rest of the story: I did try to buy back the Pat Hand I gave away for $200 but couldn't get it for that price. Pat Hand / Satin Doll are well worth $200!

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#11 1 year ago

I was watching a local Satin Doll in pretty good cosmetic shape (not working, but I'm feeling pretty confident with repairing EM games these days) drop until it hit $250 this morning. I have no room for it, not really drawn to the game cosmetically or in terms of play, but I was sorely tempted.

Fortunately someone else beat me to it!

I'm in the middle of buying a CC Sky Rider for hot air balloon pilot friends - so I imagine messing with that and helping them keep it in shape will keep me busy and scratch the new machine itch!

#12 1 year ago
Quoted from JudeRussell:

Fortunately someone else beat me to it!

More like unfortunately. Pat Hand has a lot going for it. Lots of targets, "new style" roll-overs, wide open playfield, DC bumpers, unique lower bumper layout, fast play.

Also, you can always find room for one more.

#13 1 year ago

I've got 2 machines (55" backbox width) in 84" of space. So technically yes but it will make working on them tough. I'll keep en eye out in case the sale falls through.

An I'm totally doing a mental calculation of buying a shed for outside (small condo association, 4 units, I'm the president and do most of the outdoor maintenance) and moving a bunch of the stuff in my basement to the shed, sliding my work desk back another few feet, so I can fit 1-2 more games....

#14 1 year ago

I prefer the 4P Pat Hand (art package) and its conventional 2 flipper bottom.
One gets a little more ball control with the inlane return to the right flipper.
Neither game though has ever been a real favorite of mine.
But as the saying goes, any flipper game is better than no pinball.
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