(Topic ID: 257845)

Warning! Mirco not returning playfields and plastics.

By Mitch

4 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

You

Linked Games

No games have been linked to this topic.

    Topic poll

    “Have you been wronged or how do you feel about how he treats customers.”

    • I've sent mirco a playfeild and plastic and never received them back 8 votes
      4%
    • I've sent mirco a playfeild and plastic and dont expect them back 2 votes
      1%
    • I'm never buying g from mirco because of this 95 votes
      52%
    • I'll still buy from mirco because I have no issues with his shady practices 6 votes
      3%
    • None of this matters as mirco quality is shit and he never addresses it. 56 votes
      31%
    • I love mirco he can do no wrong. 16 votes
      9%

    (Multiple choice - 183 votes by 162 Pinsiders)

    Topic Gallery

    View topic image gallery

    image (resized).jpg
    31501F9A-9528-4881-92AA-D9E17991B604 (resized).jpeg
    Screenshot_20191220-233554_Samsung Internet (resized).jpg
    Screenshot_20191220-233545_Samsung Internet (resized).jpg
    Untitled document.pdf (PDF preview)
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png

    You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider PinLen83.
    Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

    #9 4 years ago
    Quoted from Colehvac1:

    I first hand know of someone that sent mirco a playfield and plastics from his game and micro is not a stand up guy. He’s a crook and should be exposed, I wouldn’t mind saying this to him in person to his face. When a collector LENDS you collector quality playfield and plastics for your reproduction business and you keep it and ghost them you're a POS! This issue has not been resolved! It’s not old it’s currently happening.

    True story.

    I doubt he'll ever show his face state-side where people will actually be allowed to confront him!

    #23 4 years ago
    Quoted from Crispin:

    Couldn't have said it better. Thanks so much for starting this thread Mitch! I didn't want to start this thread out of fear of never seeing my stuff again. Like rape victims we have been questioning ourselves as if we did something wrong and not speaking out for fear of what would happen to our property. After being in the dark since Sept when he stopped corresponding and doesn't pick up his phone what do I have to lose? Here's my post from the Quicksilver thread to share my experience with Mirco.
    I'd like to share my Mirco experience with the Quicksilver group and what my repro playfield is like now that I FINALLY received it the 2nd week of August. In October of last year I sent my restored playfield that Devin (sohchx,) had touched up and cleared along with my plastic set to Mirco so he could make the repros possible. I was told that he should print mid Feb of this year and I should expect my stuff back mid to end of April of this year and that he might need the playfield a little longer for reference. When I saw that the playfields were put up for sale I kept emailing asking for updates and when I can expect the playfields back because I wanted to repopulate and sell this game. A number of excuses like various colds and vacations and workers not being there were given over the summer while I had the distinct pleasure of watching other pinsiders receive their playfields! Even though I was being jerked around I kept sending pleasant emails and kept getting curt non aplogetic responses. When I had enough in July and sent an email demanding my playfield and plastics back he finally sent me a repro 2nd week of Aug. but without the plastic set. I emailed asking why I hadn't received the plastics I was told that he didn't have the time to deal with my small project he has more important work to deal with. I then got the run around again until Sept when I was told he still didn't get to it and that I should be happy with the playfield I received and that the deal was he keeps the donor playfield for reference. Then in the next sentence he wrote but of course if you want it back you can have it I just need it for reference. I again explained I had people interest in buying the Quicksilver since May and need the plastics back. Well a month went by again and I reached out and reminded him I haven't complained publicly this whole time. That every time he told me he needed my playfield for reference I told him I"d be willing to accept another repro in it's place if he wanted to keep the original and I NEED my plastics to finish this restore. Silence
    I'm tired of asking politely for my playfield and plastics back while being strung along with excuses or just outright ignored. In 3 days it will be a year since I shipped them though I was told I'd have them back within 6 months. It's not the 6 months difference it was the way in which I was treated during the whole process. He couldn't be bothered to even scan some plastics over the span of a year?! Just wanted to share my frustrating year long experience with Mirco and warn others what to expect if you are kind enough to depopulate and send off your property to Mirco to share with the community. Since I wasn't a paying customer he couldn't be bothered. I haven't heard from him since September 11th!

    What's really fucked up about this, Sterns re-release is probably why he held onto your PF for so long. I'll never forget that "AH-HA" moment when we realized that.

    The flood gates have now officially opened. This is gonna be a rocky ride

    16
    #91 4 years ago
    Quoted from Highclasspinball:

    I think I have to chime in here with some truth.
    As this is mainly about the Quicksilver playfield, I would like to keep everyone aware here that the deal always is and was: I recieve the old bad playfield and the donor gets a new one back for free. I cover all shipping charges as well. Same deal for plastics. The Quicksilver which was requested in exchange for the donor was one of the first ones sent. So far the plastic set is not finished so plastics could not be replaced. Again, the donor plastics will remain here. This is the deal I have always offered, nothing else. Who uses the search option in the forum can find that in various threads.
    Yes, I have some more donor playfields which are in the line to be made. The past few month were very busy so I could not work on any new items but as we upgraded capacity this will change early next year. There will be more new items to come soon as well as some new products.
    And again for all who have missed it - I HAVE NEVER MADE ANY STERN PLAYFIELDS!!!
    If someone has sent a playfield to me who thinks I forgot about it, please feel free to contact me as PM or email.
    Sorry for any confusion I might have caused, but I will no longer participate in a bashing thread.
    Regards,
    Mirco

    You’re a -bleep-

    Hell hath no fury like a pinball community scorned

    #99 4 years ago
    Quoted from Colehvac1:

    Thanks for the info, I will alert Steve young

    BOOM!!

    #103 4 years ago
    Quoted from snyper2099:

    IF MIRCO IS HOLDING ONE OF YOUR PFs here's what you should actually do:
    I would suggest ordering a few playfields from Mirco and put them on a CC. Then when you receive those items, deny all the charges and close the card. Just say your nephew who is a addicted to drugs got a hold of it...
    I doubt someone who is so busy (stated above) will even care to deal with a few thousand dollars worth of international chargeback nonsense. At least you will get something...

    I wouldn’t suggest anyone commit a federal crime. Lol

    #179 4 years ago
    Quoted from Colehvac1:

    Nope, instead he’s contacting his victim and threatening them with legal action, real class act!

    Instead of putting out the fire, he wants to throw a fuel tanker into the mix. I just don’t get how thick a person can be in a bad situation like this!

    By the way, legal action would cost WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY MORE than just sending his shit back. Feels like an empty threat.

    Threads like these bring to light that there is a lot of shady stuff going on in this hobby. Like Crispin said earlier, it’s almost as if they’re a bunch of rape victims out there who are afraid to share their stories In fear of backlash.

    I hope everyone continues to post, and share their stories. POWER IN NUMBERS!!

    Quoted from Crispin:

    Lol that would take a man of his word. Instead Highclassless pinball Mirco sent me an email telling me to remove my emails from the post or I'll be hearing from his lawyer. No apology. No let's see what we can do to make this right.

    You're insinuation that I am lying forced me to post my emails. I'll take them down when my property is returned.

    I’m glad you posted the actual emails Chris! I’d have done much worse, earlier on.

    #265 4 years ago
    Quoted from pinmike:

    That's the problem right there!! if micro can't make a repro in time or for whatever reason they need to send back the original playfield or parts back to the rightful owners.Not answering emails,phone calls and just falling off the grid is not an excuse,One easy word to describe this tactic is called THEFT.

    Exactly.

    This is NOT A LANGUAGE BARRIER. More like a HUMAN DECENCY BARRIER. You’re being a POS by not communicating with customers...no matter how bad the news is. You also have no right to keep someone’s property, especially when they’re asking for the return of it. Again, no language barrier there.

    Oh, and we have this thing called the internet. Some of you may have heard about it...and this small company called GOOGLE HAS A TRANSLATOR.

    Just sayin...

    16
    #275 4 years ago
    Quoted from PinRob:

    Again, I’d be HIGHLY aggravated and would have posted about it here too if it had happened to me. But this is not “stealing” without the owners consent.

    You want to play semantics on what stealing is? Cmon man....

    #310 4 years ago
    Quoted from PinRob:

    I just find the word “stealing” hard to digest here - nothing more nothing less. I agree what has transpired between Mirco and others here is totally wrong on so many levels, but I would have worded the title of the thread differently, that’s all I’m trying to say.

    Less focus on terminology, and more focusing on the problem at hand.

    Quoted from Highclasspinball:

    I have not done anything that did not follow our original agreement, other than things taking longer than expected.
    I will return Chris's items in January and will have the plastic sets available by that time, and if anyone else feels I have been holding their items for too long - please PM me and I will arrange their return.
    If someone needs a plastic set for quicksilver please PM or email me, same if you want to be updated about Indiana Jones playfield or radcals.
    I will have a new product line coming up early next year as well. The release will be probably in February.
    Thanks a lot to everyone who tries to help!
    Regards,
    Mirco

    My guy....you’re not letting go of the fact that YOU fucked up. Instead, you’re pointing fingers (by stating you haven’t done anything beyond these set agreements). Clearly, YOU HAVE! Why don’t you just apologize, get to packin his stuff up, and move on? Do you even have his stuff? Why do I have a feeling you don’t? You think it’s alright that you ghosted dozens of people?

    Man....I can’t comprehend what’s going on here. Mind blowing!!!

    #311 4 years ago

    It’s alright though. None of this is going to die. More people are going to come forward (before or after they get their property back).

    It’s already cost you more than you can possibly fathom at the moment. Like an STD from an old Gf, You’ll continue to feel the heat of this thread For years to come.

    #322 4 years ago
    Quoted from Highclasspinball:

    think I have to chime in here with some truth.
    As this is mainly about the Quicksilver playfield, I would like to keep everyone aware here that the deal always is and was: I recieve the old bad playfield and the donor gets a new one back for free. I cover all shipping charges as well. Same deal for plastics. The Quicksilver which was requested in exchange for the donor was one of the first ones sent. So far the plastic set is not finished so plastics could not be replaced. Again, the donor plastics will remain here. This is the deal I have always offered, nothing else. Who uses the search option in the forum can find that in various threads.

    Quoted from Highclasspinball:

    I have always said I will send them back. So no news or any changes in here. But not everyone did understand that...no idea why...
    Regards,
    Mirco

    No, no you haven’t!

    #336 4 years ago
    Quoted from AFM95:

    I apologize, I have no skin in the game, but need to chime in.
    Micro - when some asks you months on end (and multiple times) to send their playfield back - SEND IT BACK.
    No one is ever "too busy" for anything. You make the time or you don't.
    It's lazy that you can't take 10-15 minutes out of your day to ship something to someone; especially when they were the ones who did YOU the favor.

    No, it’s a language barrier!!!

    ::rolls eyes::

    #358 4 years ago

    Mirco:

    Do yourself a favor. Take Crispin’s stuff, put it in a box with a shipping label on it. Write his address on it. Multiple times so there’s no mistakes. Clearly. Print it if you have to. Now. Get it to your nearest shipping depot/store. And SEND IT BACK. Don’t pull any of this “in January” shit.

    Ok, feels good to do the right thing, huh?

    No? Well, I didn’t ask your fkin opinion.

    Go repeat this process over until every other member of this community is made whole again.

    I’m starting to get REALLY angry.

    3 weeks later
    #398 4 years ago
    Quoted from Crispin:

    I haven't heard from Mirco since Christmas Eve. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

    You wrote him?

    You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider PinLen83.
    Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

    Reply

    Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.

    Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!

    Donate to Pinside

    Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!


    This page was printed from https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/warning-mirco-stealing-playfeilds-and-plastics?tu=PinLen83 and we tried optimising it for printing. Some page elements may have been deliberately hidden.

    Scan the QR code on the left to jump to the URL this document was printed from.